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Old April 19th, 2008, 06:54 AM   #2821
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I think there can be a good case for both routes but personally I think the SW route is best. It will serve PoCo, Riverview, but I think most importantly it would be a good route for a SkyTrain/LRT split over the PortMann to Guilford/North Langley/commuter buses coming in from the valley.
I was thinking about that earlier but after a while, I think not. The NW route should be SkyTrain as there is a lot of development happening there. Port Moody is bound to go up - their "little village" atmosphere is not going to stay for a long time.

The SE route [correction btw] should be LRT. It should go from Coquitlam Central down Lougheed Hwy [so it will stop by River View] and then across twin Hwy 1 bridge [which is designed with LRT in mind] and reach Guilford [which will be connecting SkyTrain]. Phase two of that line can continue 152nd Street to Fraser Hwy then South East down to Langley.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 08:05 AM   #2822
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^ couldn't agree more.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 08:52 AM   #2823
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Skytrain should be built through where you want the highest density where there is already demand, so in that sense I agree with the NW corridor. It's also a much more beautiful place to build high density, if they can achieve some sort of harmony with the natural backdrop.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 08:56 PM   #2824
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Yeah... about the harmony thing...
The enormous, grey elevated track of Skytrain doesn't really 'blend' harmoniously. Especially along quaint, small-townish St. John's street. But, didn't we hear something a few months ago about the route going along Clarke (just north of St. John's), or even above the West Coast Express train tracks? That would certainly be a better fit for the area i think...wouldn't scar St. Johns...
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Old April 19th, 2008, 09:21 PM   #2825
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Yes the section through Port Moody is going to run alongside the CP rail right-of-way, and will be almost entirely at-grade (though separated from traffic of course). You can check it out at:

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Old April 19th, 2008, 09:40 PM   #2826
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For someone not up to speed, what are the relative advantages of each route?


the northwest route was the original route chosen over 10 years ago. the cities of Port Moody and Coquitlam have been densifying along the proposed route for a long time now. the 97 B-line follows this approximate route and has high ridership for the burbs but still nowhere close to the 99 or even the 98. its shorter so faster travel times, and it actually goes where people need to go.

the south east route was thought up by some old councillors who didnt want skytrain in port moody village, and with the support of burquitlam and pomo nimby's, was considered as an option for a short while. it follows the approximate route of the 169 bus which sees low ridership compared to the 97. it runs full at 15 minute headways. the benefits are that it runs next to potential re-development areas that are now industrial land and/or highway commercial, it runs past riverview, and it would facilitate a spur to guilford. there are many problems with this line though, like there would be no existing ridership base after it left coquitlam center, it would take longer, and if any industrial lands in the region are re-developed it should be the ones along the M line skytrain in vancouver. also trying to make the lougheed - cape horn area pedestrian freindly is like trying to understand riera.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 12:33 AM   #2827
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So far, there has been no announcement of where the stations will be located along the 11-kilometre route, but TransLink said there will be between eight and 10 stops. They will be named later this year. For now, TransLink Board of Directors chair Dale Parker said the new line showcases where Greater Vancouver is headed.

"I think both the public and municipalities are recognizing the importance of density along the lines," he said. "I think Port Moody is ahead of the others in terms of what they've done in anticipation of the line."

But Mr. Parker remained tight-lipped about any real estate needed to build it. "I don't think we'll comment on purchases of land at this stage," he said.

He did hint, however, at the chance TransLink may rent out property to businesses around the line "to maximize the benefits around [the] station."

Population in the Northeast grew by an estimated 46 per cent between 1991 and 2006, making it one of the fastest growing areas in Metro Vancouver.

It includes the municipalities of Anmore, Belcarra, Coquitlam, Port Moody and Port Coquitlam and is bordered by New Westminster and Burnaby in the south and west, by Indian Arm and Burrard Inlet in the north and west, and by the Fraser and Pitt Rivers in the south and east.

The sector's current population is estimated to be 210,000, but it is forecast to grow to about 360,000 people by 2031.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 01:45 AM   #2828
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This is good news. I hope they refrain from using multiple names for stations - see Richmond-Brighouse, Yaletown-Roundhouse.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 02:19 AM   #2829
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LRT from Coquitlam to Surrey could serve a double benefit -- passengers going to Vancouver from Surrey or Langley can take LRT to Coquitlam then West Coast Express downtown. It may not be faster but it'll be a lot more comfortable.

But for now I think the new Golden Ears Bridge is opening up the West Coast Express to the Langley residents via Maple Meadows Station just as Abbotsford residents use Mission Station. (Why do they call Mission Station "Mission City Station" even though Mission is not a city, it's the District of Mission)
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 02:59 AM   #2830
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probably cause its in the city part of a large district
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Old April 23rd, 2008, 03:40 AM   #2831
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crappy narrow bike lanes....personally, i would still fear being run over by an Asian driver.




















































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Old April 24th, 2008, 06:32 AM   #2834
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did vancuver buy the roof for that wood station at ikea. It looks kinda out of place with all that concrete
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Old April 24th, 2008, 07:23 AM   #2835
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did vancuver buy the roof for that wood station at ikea. It looks kinda out of place with all that concrete
Ikea? I don't recall one being around there. You're talking about Aberdeen station? I'd wait till it's finished. I'm sure there's a lot more material to be added.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 07:25 AM   #2836
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did vancuver buy the roof for that wood station at ikea. It looks kinda out of place with all that concrete
lol, i don't think it'll look out of place when the station's glass facades are all finished.

Vancouver's most recent SkyTrain lines, most recent 2002, involve the use of wood roof for the stations. I would say this station would be one of the most simplest designs, because of tight funding. Three of the 16 stations on the Canada Line will use the exact same roof design.



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The wood will make the stations look a little less industrial looking. Those Millenium Line stations look so huge now.
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Good comparison between those Aberdeen and Rupert pics:

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Things to note: new hub area is an outdoor space that will be protected by a huge glass roof and glass wall, according to a City of Vancouver engineer. City of Vancouver is studying to see if the Canada Line station is able to link with the hub but that will only happen if it's structually possible. This will be presented to council by fall.
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