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Old August 5th, 2008, 07:36 AM   #3041
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Yeah I visited Vancouver and Seattle within a week of each other, an interesting comparison. Seattle had built freeways/motorways like they were going out of fashion. I remember crossing one of the bridges over Lake Washington (where it connects to that big island) and over the course of about 5 minutes thinking "wow I just saw $10 billion of roads". And yet, it was still nose-to-tail the next day when we headed north at rush hour (along the mega-wide I-5). By comparison Vancouver seemed damn easy to get around.

In addition to the SkyTrain, I remember the B-Line buses quite well. How extensive is commuter rail?
We have three B-Line routes right now, the 97, 98 and the 99. The 98 will be terminated next year when the SkyTrain Canada Line goes into service along the same route. And with the 99, it'll be terminated in a decade or so when the SkyTrain Millennium Line is extended by 12-kms all the way to the University of British Columbia over the next ten years. There will also be a 6-km extension of the SkyTrain Expo Line in Surrey, and the 12-km SkyTrain Evergreen Line will be completed by 2014 which will replace the 97.

As for commuter rail, we don't have much of that. SkyTrain really acts as both commuter rail and inter-city rail. We have one commuter rail line called the West Coast Express....there are 5 trains going into downtown during the morning and 5 trains going back to the suburbs at night, it goes one direction only. Yet still, the West Coast Express is seen as a huge success and holds a daily ridership of 10,000.

Future plans for the region, SkyTrain extensions and the introduction of Rapid Bus (even better than the B-Line):




This $12 billion plan calls for:

- $8.3 billion investment in four new rapid transit lines in Metro Vancouver—the Evergreen Line, the UBC Line, the upgraded and extended Expo Line
- $1 billion for the purchase of 300 additional Mark II SkyTrain cars
- $1.2 billion for a new, cutting edge energy efficient, high capacity RapidBus BC service along nine major routes in Metro Vancouver
- $1.6 billion investment in 1,500 new, clean energy buses and related maintenance infrastructure to provide communities around the province with improved bus service
- increased security measures to enhance transit safety and use, fare gates, and the introduction of a smart card system
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Old August 5th, 2008, 08:39 AM   #3042
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Old August 5th, 2008, 09:12 AM   #3043
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Looks great!

Apart from the surreal platform size.
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Old August 5th, 2008, 09:13 AM   #3044
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Looks great!

Apart from the surreal platform size.
One the bright side, it'll be the world's largest airport people mover and the first airport people mover in history to serve the entire city!


*cries inside*
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Old August 5th, 2008, 10:40 AM   #3045
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Holy crap, that sounds like a very good investment in terms of mass transit. I wish Seattle would put more money towards it. Wish we had spent the money earlier and now we're paying the price for holding off.
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Old August 5th, 2008, 12:33 PM   #3046
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Great thread mr.x =P This will bring more awareness to our system.. =)
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Old August 6th, 2008, 09:56 AM   #3047
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Canada Line construction 80% finished; traffic fully open within 2 months

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Good news for drivers who use Cambie Street in Vancouver, your creeping and crawling days are almost over. It's also good news for businesses along the Cambie corridor, as surface construction for the Canada Line is almost finished.

Steve Crombie with InTransitBC says they have completed 80% of their work, and things should be getting back to normal by the end of September or early October. "What is left to be done is all the work that happens underground that people won't see, like the all track work, the electrical work, the finishings of the tunnels and the stations. That represents the last 20%."

Crombie says drivers and pedestrians can watch for big changes in the next couple of months as traffic patterns are re-established. But some sections are not quite done. "The area from the south end of the Cambie Bridge to about 8th Avenue is still tied up in terms of reduced traffic lanes, due partly to the tunnel we're finishing, plus finishing work we're doing in that area."

The Canada Line is slated to be open in November of next year.
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Old August 8th, 2008, 10:10 AM   #3048
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OAKRIDGE-41ST AVENUE STATION






















BROADWAY-CITY HALL STATION



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Old August 9th, 2008, 07:29 AM   #3049
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Is there going to be an underground pedestrian connection from 41st station to Oakridge Centre?
BTW just for info.......all the downtown stations are already 50 metres as is Marine.
I think they could extend most of the stations past 50m to accomodate 4 cars/80m EXCEPT Broadway. Broadway will be a true bitch if not impossible due to the Cambie/Broadway hill on Cambie.
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Old August 9th, 2008, 08:16 AM   #3050
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Is there going to be an underground pedestrian connection from 41st station to Oakridge Centre?
Yes, there will be a connection.
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Old August 10th, 2008, 01:25 AM   #3051
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Station - notice the glass and lights








































I love the guideway greenery treatment.....and the station itself looks much better now with the glass coming along.
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Old August 13th, 2008, 01:45 AM   #3052
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Celebrating sixty years of zero emissions on six wheels!

From #2040 to Transport 2040Metro Vancouver’s public transportation system marks a major milestone Saturday, August 16, with a celebration of the 60th anniversary of trolley bus service, beginning at 11:00 am at the Stanley Park bus loop (just north of the Rose Garden). With TransLink’s purchase of a new trolley bus fleet in 2005, our region remained committed to zero-emission buses, even as other transit systems were discontinuing them; now, with so many people concerned about greenhouse gas emissions and air pollution, one could say the decision shows the same foresight as the one to preserve Stanley Park, where the event is being held.
The day kicks off with a treat for trolley bus fans: a parade of buses, provided by TRAMS – the Transit Museum Society. The buses represent every “generation” of electric buses:
#2040, one of the original 1947 Brill trolleys
#2416, a later-model Brill
A “triesel” – part of the interim generation of Flyer trolleys, later converted to diesel and used for de-icing overhead wires
#2805, a recently retired Flyer E901
Two New Flyer-Vossloh Kiepe trolleys: a 40’ standard-length coach and a 60’ articulated trolley.

These will go on display at 9:30 at the Vancouver Transit Centre (VTC) in Marpole, and the parade will leave sharp at 10. It will be a trip back in time for those old enough to remember the Brills’ classic, rounded lines, green bench seats, BC Electric “worm-in-the-apple” logo and the wooden gate at the rear door; while younger people will get a chance to look at a proud point of Vancouver’s history, and note that “nostalgia ain’t what it used to be”. (Those wishing to ride in the parade are encouraged to take transit to VTC: take the #10, #17 and #100 to Marpole Loop, or the #351, #480 or #601 to Hudson & Marine.)
The celebration is not just about buses, but will also recognize a key component of the transit system that is literally overhead and therefore often overlooked: the line crews of Coast Mountain Bus Co. This vital department is almost twice as old as the trolley bus system, as the men and women of the overhead crew have been keeping the 600 volts DC flowing in all weather, at all times of the day or night, since the original streetcars rattled down the tracks in 1890: truly, the unsung heroes of our public transit system.
The public is invited to this fun event, which will be a chance to congratulate one another on one of the many things that make Metro Vancouver one of the most liveable regions in the world.
Source: TransLink

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Old August 13th, 2008, 05:17 PM   #3053
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Have you heard the latest from our beloved Translink?
Translink has always contracted handidart out to local agencies. The area of South Surrey has always been contracted to Semiahmoo Association for disabled. They always did a great job.........but no longer.
It will now be contracted out to a CALIFORNIA company. This is leading to a 100 person layoff. I know this as my sister works there. Her job is not in jeopordy but she has just had her staff cut in half.
Your tax dollars at work.
Contact Translink and your local MLA and protest our transit taxes going straight to a US company.
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Old August 13th, 2008, 07:18 PM   #3054
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That Californian company put in the lowest bid, maybe if the local company wanted to keep the contract they should've done the same. Pretty sure that Californian company will be hiring local drivers for the route so what's the issue here?
This isn't translink sending our money to the states this is translink spending our tax money the most efficently.
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Old August 13th, 2008, 09:42 PM   #3055
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That is completly not the point.
These social service agencies that do this also gain a small amount of income off this contracting out.
Our social service agencies use these funds to provide further services to our communities especially for the mentally hancicapped. Now, instead of these services which are non-profit been used for the benefit of of our community those extra income funds are being sent to a foreign country and to a PRIVATE company.
Does it make you feel warm and fuzzy knowing that the next time a disabled person uses these services that they very much need some of that money will be heading straight to California to assist a US corporation.

BTW, according to Jim Dawe who I spoke to at Translink as he oversees the running of handi-dart services at Translink open stated that this is the first time this has ever happened in a Canadian transit service. Remember that next time you pay your fare.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #3056
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I don't see what's wrong... this just reminds me of the people who get pissed off that BC Ferries didn't build the new superferries here...
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Old August 14th, 2008, 12:19 AM   #3057
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So are you suggesting that Translink pay extra so that my taxmoney can be used for a charity of their choice? I would get more warm fuzzy feelings by saving money and donating the my money to a charity of my choice.

I'll think about that when I pay my fare.
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Old August 16th, 2008, 01:29 AM   #3058
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Wow I just scanned through the SCBCTA (TransLink)'s 2040 plan. Seems like Surrey/White Rock's employment opportunities is going to surpass downtown Vancouver ? That doesn't sound good with reverse commuting and other potential transportation problem.
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Not sure I follow about the reserve commuting, as by that time Surrey is supposed to have a larger population. So in fact it makes more sense.
Besides it's great that we have the city set up this way, it's a waste of resources to have busses/trains crowded one-way and empty on the return trip, by having a solid commute both ways we can double the efficiency of our transit system.
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Old August 17th, 2008, 09:38 AM   #3060
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Not the way Surrey is going forward. There is an area down here that has opened up. A MASSIVE light industry/commerical developments. It looks like university, over a dozen LARGE complexes and it keeps growing. 5 years ago there was nothing there and now its a huge employment centre. It's the same size as the huge industrial area of the Main/Clarke/Terminal/2nd Ave in Vancouver.
The problem?........it is not served by a single bus. It must have employment of thousands and everyone has to drive to get there.
Its funny, its not even on a true main drag or thruway so bus service will be extremely difficult and the damage is done and the way it is expanding, the damage will only get worse. The area is surrrounded by open gravel pits, agricultural land reserve, low density housing/farms, and some large parks. In other words there is almost no way to create a large residential area to make bus service viable.

It is this kind of thing that will increase traffic, emissions, and horrid urban development and community cohention.
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