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Old November 8th, 2008, 06:25 AM   #3141
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Anybody else spy the world's most laughable fencing?
I've seen this fencing used elsewhere in the world before. And for all you know, they may plant vines around it which would beautify the structure. I don't see why its the most laughable fencing in the world when such fences already exist in other countries.
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Old November 8th, 2008, 06:11 PM   #3142
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Anybody else spy the world's most laughable fencing?
I thnk chain link would be much more laughable, thats actually very hard to climb, hard to cut and generally stronger (hence requring more strength in the sctructure supporting it) incase a car decides to hop the curb and go airborne into the tunnel. Its some good shit hombre
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Old November 11th, 2008, 10:04 AM   #3143
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Nothing's wrong with the fencing... it's just him that's the problem. I'm warning you right now trainrover should this immature, unnecessary, and unwanted behavior continue, I will make sure there are consequences.

Just to let everyone know, there is going to be a "swoosh" design placed on top of the fencing. At the moment, it's blue, yellow, and red but that could change since the new Canada Line livery is just blue and green.

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Old November 14th, 2008, 06:15 AM   #3144
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Old November 19th, 2008, 12:05 AM   #3145
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Old November 19th, 2008, 12:25 AM   #3146
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Is it going to open in stages or all at once? Seems like part of the line is totally finished while other parts have a fair way to go.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 02:55 AM   #3147
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Is it going to open in stages or all at once? Seems like part of the line is totally finished while other parts have a fair way to go.
I believe all at once. Documents suggest a November opening in 09, but it'll more than likely open earlier. The underground portion is probably a little behind the others (last to have all track in place and be train tested), but everything is on pace to be completed on time from what I understand. All of the stations are being worked on at the moment.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 05:40 PM   #3148
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Nothing's wrong with the fencing... it's just him that's the problem. I'm warning you right now trainrover should this immature, unnecessary, and unwanted behavior continue, I will make sure there are consequences.
Were one to compare the share of the cost of the cheap fencing to the predominant share poured into the inherent technology of the gussey-ed up commuter train, then s/he'd find her/himself chortling ("laughable"). The fact that the cutting, as photographed, occupies the median of some road will not serve as additional deterrent to trespassers (e.g., vandals), believe me. I wager that that segment of fencing is going to be retrofitted....so why wait? why not do it right now, right?

Thus, nothing's "immature", "unnecessary", or "unwanted" about my ridiculing quip. Were this project so worthy of raves, then I cannot comprehend how my initially succinct feedback pose a threat to --uhm-- such an untouchable, forthcoming commissioning. I'd moderate your warning were I you, for it smacks of sheer intolerance for objective criticism...

By the way, I cannot comprehend the logic behind devising platform lengths shorter than 50 metres into rapid transit for a community purported to be growing in leaps and bounds .
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Old November 19th, 2008, 11:40 PM   #3149
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^i cannot comprehend the logic behind your incessant drivel.

the canada line is a product of its circumstances. it went through a series of wealthy, politically organized neighborhoods with more than its share of NIMBYS, its efficiency was also compromised by an unwillingness of vancouver city council (although richmond's government is much more receptive) to upzone the areas along the transit line's route, and a general cost-cutting mentality. hence the short platforms.

that said, it's still much better than the transit development throughout 99% of north america. 99% of north america is doing NOTHING, save for more roads leading out to more sprawl.

if you're going to be a critic (and an annoyingly verbose and ill-educated one at that), you should instead criticize the big box stores and greenfield single family residentials being built everywhere else.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 12:21 AM   #3150
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Old November 20th, 2008, 02:30 AM   #3151
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By the way, I cannot comprehend the logic behind devising platform lengths shorter than 50 metres into rapid transit for a community purported to be growing in leaps and bounds .
its serving Richmond which can't get that much bigger

there will be another line built in the future as well to alleviate

they have plans to use the arbutus corridor for rail transit
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Old November 20th, 2008, 02:36 AM   #3152
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its serving Richmond which can't get that much bigger

there will be another line built in the future as well to alleviate

they have plans to use the arbutus corridor for rail transit
Actually, from what I hear, Richmond could easily add another couple hundred thousand. I don't think the Arbutus line is a done deal yet, but that would be the logical thing to do when the Canada Line becomes overcrowded.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 06:37 AM   #3153
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Were one to compare the share of the cost of the cheap fencing to the predominant share poured into the inherent technology of the gussey-ed up commuter train, then s/he'd find her/himself chortling ("laughable"). The fact that the cutting, as photographed, occupies the median of some road will not serve as additional deterrent to trespassers (e.g., vandals), believe me. I wager that that segment of fencing is going to be retrofitted....so why wait? why not do it right now, right?
Heavy rail isn't "guessey-ed up" commuter train technology... it's used in many places of the world. As I said earlier, if you are criticize, you better know what you are talking about first. It's not the first time that this has happened.

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Thus, nothing's "immature", "unnecessary", or "unwanted" about my ridiculing quip. Were this project so worthy of raves, then I cannot comprehend how my initially succinct feedback pose a threat to --uhm-- such an untouchable, forthcoming commissioning. I'd moderate your warning were I you, for it smacks of sheer intolerance for objective criticism...
Nice to know you are "ridiculing" and not giving constructive criticism. This project certainly does have it's flaws and there were many cutbacks, that I don't deny. At the same time, I, and many others are only commenting on this, not constantly repeating and trolling about it.

If you have any problems with my moderating [I don't moderate this part of the forum btw] and my attitude, I would suggest you report it to the administrators of this forum. I'll be happy to explain the situation in full detail.

I'm not picking on you, trust me I have better use of my time. Many of the other members have provided great rebuttals. Well said Plumber73, Spongeg, and particulez.

Just to let you know, you aren't the only member that his gone through this. I have lectured many in public like this before you.

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By the way, I cannot comprehend the logic behind devising platform lengths shorter than 50 metres into rapid transit for a community purported to be growing in leaps and bounds .
According to population and transit projections by Metro Vancouver, TransLink, and Statistics Canada, the Canada Line can handle the future capacity. Platform lengths are only one part of the puzzle. I do agree they are on the short side, but then again, we can always purchase more trains (increasing frequency of trains) and lengthening the Canada Line trains.

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Old November 20th, 2008, 08:03 AM   #3154
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I'm no big Canada Line booster but it can handle 3 car trains {62'} and can run every 80 seconds due to automation. Due to being much wider than SkyTrain MK1 cars, it has the same capacity as 6 MK1 cars.
Very few rapid transit systems anywhere in the world run at that frequency. Its the same as 6 subway car trains every 2 and a half minutes. even on day one trains will run every 3 minutes.

Also, Richmond is not growing as fast as it seems. Building a lot more housing doesn't mean its growing like wild fire as much of it is due to changing demographics. This is similar to the Tri-Cities where there is building but hardly growing at all. There is some residential construction in Delta but the population is shrinking. The overwhelming amount of population growth in the GVRD is in Langleys, Surrey.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 08:09 AM   #3155
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Hey people, a question.
I have noticed that they have starting renovations at Broadway station which is great and some of the descriptions look great as I read the Buzzer but........... it makes no mention of actually lengthening the SkyTrain platforms to handle 9 MK11 which the province said it wants to do so they can double SkyTrain capacity. What's going on?
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Old November 20th, 2008, 08:40 AM   #3156
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I think those renovations are a totally separate project than the lengthening of the platforms. The platforms were mentioned in the 2020 plan that came out earlier in the year, which included the Surrey and Millenium Line extentions, as well as the Evergreen Line. None of that, as I understand it, has been funded yet.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 10:43 AM   #3157
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TransLink and the City of Vancouver has planned it so that future expansion/extension of platforms could be easily done.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 07:55 PM   #3158
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criticize the big box stores and greenfield single family residentials being built everywhere
...or else what? keep watching you muddle up your tinnitus with your cataract/s?

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they have plans to use the arbutus corridor for rail transit
It's about time - good. Actually, learning this is showing me that the Lower Mainland just might be taking a more promising direction, coz your news reminds me of, years back, how some transit advocacy group believed that promoting rapid rail transit was over the top (they just wanted better bus service). It was this plain stance of theirs that caused me to decline their invitation to become their organization's secretary.




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Oh? Then, going forward, keep in mind that lecturing's preceded by genuine invitations...
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Old November 20th, 2008, 09:44 PM   #3159
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$2300 for a bus?? You'll need to sell like 600 of them to afford one of the new trolleys! Hope they didn't waste too much time and money on arranging that measly $180k transaction.
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^uh yeah.

all your idiotic flowery language and ill-worded critiques are really just a cry for help, huh?
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