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Old December 4th, 2008, 11:18 PM   #3221
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...faulting of your metro line's construction management company (SNC Lavalin?)
Actually it was SELI - the Italian tunnel subcontractor.

http://www.selitunnel.com/eng/company.htm
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Old December 5th, 2008, 12:55 AM   #3222
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Hmmph.....our senses of obviousness must differ.....this project's now especially more flawed because of the following.

In the midst of the special news broadcast this morning on national radio due to the fledgling political crisis, the broadcaster finally broke for an especial World Report. Their second news item reported the BC Human Rights Tribunal faulting of your metro line's construction management company (SNC Lavalin?) for paying tunnel constructors hailing from Latin America half the salary paid to their local peers (for just as much labour).

Just what part of fact must you find too repulsive?





No, I don't know when, coz that'd playing god, wouldn't it? With climate change all about us, I bet our cities are probably going to have to absorb millions of refugees from over-populated communities. 50, 60, 63m: still far too short.
Immigrant labor has a LONG history of being underpaid. Look at dubai, not a single UAE worker there to lift a finger.

And since climate change has been debunked by globally dropping temps since 01.....
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Old December 5th, 2008, 03:57 AM   #3223
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With climate change all about us, I bet our cities are probably going to have to absorb millions of refugees from over-populated communities. 50, 60, 63m: still far too short.
I think we're more likely to breed like rabbits.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 03:58 AM   #3224
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Old December 5th, 2008, 07:18 PM   #3225
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And since climate change has been debunked by globally dropping temps since 01.....
Total bullshit. God, you are misinformed.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 10:59 PM   #3226
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And since climate change has been debunked by globally dropping temps since 01.....
Climate change does not infer rising global temperatures, it simply means - as it is named - climate change. A change in climate: change in temperatures, weather, precipitation, w/e....
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Old December 6th, 2008, 03:58 AM   #3227
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"the weather man cant even tell me if its going to rain tomorrow and you want me to believe he can predict shit into the next century " Sgt *OPSEC*

'Its mind boggling to me that if i dont believe that in 50 years Manhattan will be underwater im looked at like the crazy one' Dennis Miller.

Anyway... back to fun shit. Mr. X you get any pics of the color changing lighting system so i can berate the company that installed it halfway down the column. Or has that actually moved to the top like its supposed to in professional installations.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 10:09 PM   #3228
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^oh god, first you wondered if vancouver was too cold for concrete pouring, now you doubt the existence of climate change?
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Old December 7th, 2008, 06:52 PM   #3229
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Immigrant labor has a LONG history of being underpaid. Look at dubai, not a single UAE worker there to lift a finger.
Right, of course. Flagrantly, our (their?) laws were being broken.
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Old December 7th, 2008, 07:40 PM   #3230
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Right, of course. Flagrantly, our (their?) laws were being broken.
and they should be fined appropriately IF laws were broken. If they are within legal limits but are not paying fairly between canadian citizens and immigrants then they are trying to make sure locals get a majority of their tax dollars back. I see no problem with that.
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Old December 7th, 2008, 11:24 PM   #3231
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"the weather man cant even tell me if its going to rain tomorrow and you want me to believe he can predict shit into the next century " Sgt *OPSEC*

'Its mind boggling to me that if i dont believe that in 50 years Manhattan will be underwater im looked at like the crazy one' Dennis Miller.

Anyway... back to fun shit. Mr. X you get any pics of the color changing lighting system so i can berate the company that installed it halfway down the column. Or has that actually moved to the top like its supposed to in professional installations.
Like we said earlier, it's a trial project. Should you have any concerns, please voice them to the City of Richmond.

If you guys want to start criticizing the project, please at least try to make yourself sound knowledgeable. Otherwise, just go away... and I'm talking to EVERYONE who is reading this. And yes, this is a warning.

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Old December 9th, 2008, 06:26 AM   #3232
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Bus service bumps up
By Jeff Nagel - BC Local News

Published: December 08, 2008 3:00 PM
Updated: December 08, 2008 3:43 PM

More bus service is coming on stream across Metro Vancouver this month, bringing new routes and more frequent service in some areas.

Expanded service comes as TransLink buys a steady stream of new buses – it has taken possession of more than 100 standard, articulated or community shuttle buses so far this year.

Much of the latest round of service expansion is being focused on the South of Fraser area, where three new routes are being launched:

- #364 Langley Centre/Scottsdale will provide east-west service via 64th Avenue.

- #388 Walnut Grove/22nd St. Station will run on 88 Avenue from Port Kells to Annacis Island, at peak times only initially.

- #609 Tsawwassen First Nation/South Delta exchange.

Burnaby will also get a new route (#126 Patterson Station/BCIT) on a trial basis starting Jan. 5 to serve the Willingdon corridor and relieve congestion at Metrotown's bus loop.

Vancouver's new #33 from 29th Avenue Station to UBC will expand to run on weekends and #3 Main Street buses will once again run all the way to downtown Vancouver.

Increased service is also planned for #145 buses serving Simon Fraser University.

TransLink's Frequent Transit Network, which guarantees service at least every 15 minutes, 15 hours a day, all week, will extend to include the #169 route from Coquitlam Station to Braid Station, #403 Richmond Centre/Number 3 Road and #123 New Westminster Station/Brentwood Station.

Enhanced service is also promised on the North Shore, where Capilano University students are joining the U-Pass system.

The changes take effect Dec. 29.

Overall, bus service this year has increased 4.7 per cent.

For more on service changes see www.translink.bc.ca.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 09:20 AM   #3233
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We can easily double track the Richmond corridor (as it was intended and designed) and build a loop around YVR so that we can have a shorter maximum frequency for trains: 1 minute per train sounds pretty good doesn't it?
yeah better than anywhere else in the world

I waited for the tube at heathrow for quite a while and the tube and heathrow are ths busiest in the world - even when the train did show up it sat there for a good few minutes
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Old December 9th, 2008, 09:30 PM   #3234
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"the weather man cant even tell me if its going to rain tomorrow and you want me to believe he can predict shit into the next century " Sgt *OPSEC*

'Its mind boggling to me that if i dont believe that in 50 years Manhattan will be underwater im looked at like the crazy one' Dennis Miller.

Anyway... back to fun shit. Mr. X you get any pics of the color changing lighting system so i can berate the company that installed it halfway down the column. Or has that actually moved to the top like its supposed to in professional installations.
Actually, weather forecasts are very accurate. They never deal in absolutes, just probabilities.

Look at the rate of melting in the Arctic and Antarctic. Look at the melting permafrost in ALaska, the changing bloom dates of flowers. All of this is related to higher temperatures.

ANd yes, if Dennis Miller cannot comprehend that the melting of the polar ice caps will increase sea level he should be regarded as crazy.

Pathetic that you cite a ******* comedian and an anonymous person to support your argument that climate change is not real.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 11:06 PM   #3235
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And yes, this is a warning.
I suggest you redirectcher warning to the bozos who drummed up single-track service to the airport there.....try being useful. You know, just because you (you, and you) swallowed what all of you over there were lumped doesn't mean everybody else must do the same (here)...
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Old December 10th, 2008, 03:19 AM   #3236
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I suggest you redirectcher warning to the bozos who drummed up single-track service to the airport there.....try being useful. You know, just because you (you, and you) swallowed what all of you over there were lumped doesn't mean everybody else must do the same (here)...
Dude, not every train system needs to be an eight car maglev painted in gold. There's a budget. The single tracking would have been a cost saving decision. It's only on the last portion, so the frequency should still be ok. As has been said before... it can be changed, but that won't need to happen for awhile. So relax!
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Old December 10th, 2008, 03:26 AM   #3237
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its not single track to the airport

the last few metres and station is single track

and between the last two stations on the Richmond part there is some single lane track

not a problem at all
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Old December 10th, 2008, 04:36 AM   #3238
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yeah better than anywhere else in the world

I waited for the tube at heathrow for quite a while and the tube and heathrow are ths busiest in the world - even when the train did show up it sat there for a good few minutes
Last month in New York (granted it was a weekend day), we waited ***20*** minutes around 11:30 am for a train, and this was about 4 stops *north* of the Staten Island Ferry. There was construction on the line, so they had severly scaled back service. I was dumbfunded...20 minutes!!!

To me that is one of the things people assume with rail - frequency.. it goes unspoken that a condition of using a metro or tube or subway or sky train is that it is frequent enough that you don't have to plan your schedule around it.

Ultimately, no matter how fancy, famous or direct it is, very few people will choose to use a system (even a rail system) that forces them to adapt their schedules to *it*. The time and inconvenience of planning a trip with infrequent transit is a very high cost to those who have other options of getting around.
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Old December 10th, 2008, 05:08 AM   #3239
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its not single track to the airport

the last few metres and station is single track

and between the last two stations on the Richmond part there is some single lane track

not a problem at all
That's correct. The single-tracking is only for the last 640-metres, that's merely 3-4 city blocks. You could still run a max. frequency of as high as 2-3 minutes in the single-tracked section.
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Old December 10th, 2008, 05:12 AM   #3240
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Last month in New York (granted it was a weekend day), we waited ***20*** minutes around 11:30 am for a train, and this was about 4 stops *north* of the Staten Island Ferry. There was construction on the line, so they had severly scaled back service. I was dumbfunded...20 minutes!!!

To me that is one of the things people assume with rail - frequency.. it goes unspoken that a condition of using a metro or tube or subway or sky train is that it is frequent enough that you don't have to plan your schedule around it.

Ultimately, no matter how fancy, famous or direct it is, very few people will choose to use a system (even a rail system) that forces them to adapt their schedules to *it*. The time and inconvenience of planning a trip with infrequent transit is a very high cost to those who have other options of getting around.
Totally agree with you, that's one of my beefs with the Canada Line....the planned frequency (red=absolutely abysmal):




INTIAL SERVICE PLAN in 2009/2010
7-day frequency (32 vehicles/16 trains required)

Early Morning
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 6 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 12 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 12 minutes

Morning Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 mins 45 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 7 mins 30 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 7 mins 30 secs

Mid-Day
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 mins 45 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 7 mins 30 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 7 mins 30 secs

Afternoon Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 mins 45 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 7 mins 30 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 7 mins 30 secs

Evening
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 6 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 12 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 12 minutes


Late Night
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 10 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 20 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 20 minutes





SERVICE PLAN (will kick in when line gets busier)
7-day frequency (36 vehicles/18 trains required)

Early Morning
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 6 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 12 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 12 minutes

Morning Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 minutes 10 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 6 minutes 20 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 6 minutes 20 secs

Mid-Day
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 minutes 10 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 6 minutes 20 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 6 minutes 20 secs

Afternoon Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 minutes 10 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 6 minutes 20 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 6 minutes 20 secs

Late Night
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 10 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 20 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 20 minutes
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