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Old April 10th, 2009, 08:56 AM   #3401
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Old April 10th, 2009, 05:51 PM   #3402
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Old April 11th, 2009, 01:12 AM   #3403
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TransLink picks new top planner

Michael Shiffer will be the new vice-president of planning for TransLink.

Surrey Leader

Published: April 09, 2009 1:00 PM
Updated: April 09, 2009 1:16 PM

TransLink has again turned to the U.S. to fill a hole in its top executive ranks.

Michael Shiffer will be the new vice-president of planning, effective May 4.

He comes to TransLink from Chicago, where he is professor of urban planning and policy at the University of Illinois and served for the previous six years as vice-president of planning and development at the Chicago Transit Authority, the second-largest transit system in the U.S.

TransLink CEO Tom Prendergast, who came here from New Jersey last summer, also studied at the University of Illinois and worked at the Chicago Transit Authority.

Shiffer takes over planning duties from TransLink vice-president Sheri Plewes, who had taken that role in addition to overseeing engineering and capital management after the retirement of former planning vice-president Glen Leicester.

Shiffer arrives as TransLink struggles to decide how aggressively it will expand transit and transportation infrastructure over the next 10 years – and how any expansion will be financed.

His research has often involved information technology and he counts himself as a fan of smart cards for payment – which dovetails with TransLink's current plan to bring in such a system.

He predicted in a recent U.S. public radio interview that transit is poised to improve dramatically, even in areas where car culture has dominated.

"It is very difficult in this day and age to build new superhighways in dense urban environments," he said. "So we have to think of alternatives otherwise we're going to be very constricted by congestion."

He also likes the use of park and rides to steer suburban motorists onto transit.

Prendergast, in a recent interview, told Black Press the region needs much more park and ride space.

"We're on the real low end of the scale," he said, adding it's worthwhile to intercept as many motorists as possible and get them onto transit, even for part of their journey.

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Listen to a December, 2008 interview with Michael Shiffer by Chicago Public Radio.

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Old April 11th, 2009, 01:31 AM   #3404
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[Vancouver] SkyTrain Canada Line (19 kms, Airport to Downtown) - Opening Sept. 7, 2009

I think we're in need of a new topic, the old one is getting too garbled up...the project is largely finished, here's the old topic: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=460966


SkyTrain Canada Line

The Canada Line, formerly known as the Richmond-Airport-Vancouver Rapid Transit Rail Line ("RAV Line"), is a new 19-km automated rapid transit line of the Greater Vancouver Transportation Authority (TransLink) currently under construction. The line is being built and will be operated by a private sector engineering firm, SNC-Lavalin (InTransitBC), for 35 years.

The line will be the third for Vancouver, Canada and will be added to the existing rapid transit system but will not use linear induction motor technology, rather standard third rail technology. Despite the fact the line will use different technology, it is unclear whether or not it will be branded "SkyTrain" as the other two existing lines.

The Canada Line will connect downtown Vancouver to the Vancouver International Airport and Richmond City Centre in time for the 2010 Winter Olympics. The line is expected to carry 100,000 passengers per day at launch on September 2009.








ROUTE

The Vancouver section of the line will run underground from Waterfront Station, with a cut-and-cover tunnel under Granville Street between Hastings and Dunsmuir and a bored tunnel under Granville and Davie Street and False Creek to the 2nd Avenue station on Cambie Street, where it will run as a cut-and-cover tunnel as far as 64th Avenue with the two directions either side-by-side or stacked on separate decks.

From there, the line will be elevated, crossing the North Arm of the Fraser River via a new cable-stayed bridge. At the proposed Bridgeport Station, the line would split, with the main line heading south on an elevated track along Number 3 Road to Richmond City Centre. A branch line will cross the Middle Arm of the Fraser River, connecting Bridgeport Station to stations on Sea Island and terminating at Vancouver International Airport. Portions of the airport branch will be at-grade in order to accommodate a future elevated taxiway for aircraft over the line. In addition, 400 metres of the final segments of the Richmond and Airport branches are single-tracked instead of double tracked to cut project costs and to appease Richmond City Council, which considered the overhead line an eyesore and had been fighting for an at-grade line.

- Elevated: ~7 kms
- At-grade: ~1.7 kms
- Bored tunnel: ~ 2.5 kms
- Cut & cover tunel: ~8 kms
TOTAL: 19 kms

Travel times southbound from downtown Vancouver will be 25 minutes to Richmond Centre and 26 minutes to the airport terminus. Northbound, trains will leave Richmond City Centre and YVR every six minutes heading to Vancouver. The departures will be coordinated to allow for a train every three minutes on the main line in Vancouver.

- Richmond frequency: ~6 minutes
- Airport frequency: ~6 minutes
- Combined Vancouver frequency: ~3 minutes

Bridges
- North Arm Fraser River Bridge
- Middle Arm Fraser River Bridge





FREQUENCY


INTIAL SERVICE PLAN in 2009/2010
7-day frequency (32 vehicles/16 trains required)

Early Morning
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 6 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 12 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 12 minutes

Morning Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 mins 45 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 7 mins 30 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 7 mins 30 secs

Mid-Day
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 mins 45 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 7 mins 30 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 7 mins 30 secs

Afternoon Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 mins 45 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 7 mins 30 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 7 mins 30 secs

Evening
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 6 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 12 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 12 minutes

Late Night
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 10 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 20 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 20 minutes

SERVICE PLAN (will kick in when line gets busier)
7-day frequency (36 vehicles/18 trains required)

Early Morning
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 6 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 12 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 12 minutes

Morning Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 minutes 10 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 6 minutes 20 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 6 minutes 20 secs

Mid-Day
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 minutes 10 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 6 minutes 20 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 6 minutes 20 secs

Afternoon Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 minutes 10 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 6 minutes 20 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 6 minutes 20 secs

Late Night
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 10 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 20 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 20 minutes





STATIONS

Stations are proposed to be built in two stages: 16 stations will be built for the line's projected opening prior to the 2010 Winter Olympics, with up to three additional stations being added after the line opens. Stations platforms will range from 40 and 50 metres in length. Stations that are 40 metres are expandable to 50 metres. The proposed stations are listed below.

Vancouver
- Waterfront (connection to Expo and Millennium Lines, West Coast Express and SeaBus) - 50 metres
- Vancouver City Centre (Granville Street at Robson Street) - 50 metres
- Yaletown-Roundhouse (Davie Street near Mainland Street) - 40 metres
- Olympic Village (Vancouver 2010 Olympic Village, SouthEast False Creek, Granville Island) - 40 metres
- Broadway-City Hall (Cambie Street at West Broadway) - 50 metres
- King Edward (Cambie Street at King Edward Avenue) - 40 metres
- Oakridge-41st Avenue (Cambie Street at West 41st Avenue, next to Oakridge Centre) - 50 metres
- Langara-49th Avenue (Cambie Street at West 49th Avenue) - 40 metres
- Marine Drive (Cambie Street at Southwest Marine Drive) - 40 metres

Richmond
- Bridgeport (north of Bridgeport Road in Richmond; major transit exchange for suburban buses; new 1,000 car park and ride; link to Airport branch) - 40 metres
- Aberdeen (No. 3 Road at Cambie Road) - 40 metres
- Lansdowne (No. 3 Road at Lansdowne Road; 2-3 blocks away from the Richmond Olympic Oval speed skating venue) - 40 metres
- Richmond-Brighouse (No. 3 Road at Cook Road, adjacent to the Richmond Centre shopping mall) - 50 metres

Vancouver International Airport
- Templeton (to be located north of Grant McConachie Way, near Templeton Street) - 40 metres
- Sea Island Centre (to be located on Grant McConachie Way, near the Air Canada service centre) - 40 metres
- YVR-Airport Terminal (adjacent to the main terminal of Vancouver International Airport) - 50 metres

Future stations post-2010
- 33rd Avenue (Cambie Street at West 33rd Avenue, next to Queen Elizabeth Park in Vancouver)
- 57th Avenue (Cambie Street at West 57th Avenue in Vancouver)
- Capstan Way (No. 3 Road at Capstan Way in Vancouver)
- YVR-3 (Vancouver International Airport future terminal expansion)

Station architects
- Segment One: Downtown (Waterfront, Vancouver City Centre and Yaletown-Roundhouse Stations) – VIA Architecture & PBK;
- Segment Two: North Cambie (Olympic Village and Broadway-City Hall Stations) – Stantec;
- Segment Three: Central Cambie (King Edward, Oakridge-41st Avenue and Langara-49th Avenue Stations) – Hotson Bakker Boniface Haden;
- Segment Four: Fraser River (Marine Drive and Bridgeport Stations) – VIA Architecture & PBK;
- Segment Five: No 3 Road (Aberdeen, Lansdowne and Richmond-Brighouse Stations) – Busby Perkins Will;
- Segment Six: Sea Island (Templeton Station, Sea Island Centre Stations) – Walter Francl;
- Segment Seven: Sea Island/Terminal (YVR-Airport Station) – Kasian Architects.



TECHNOLOGY

The Canada Line will not use the proprietary Bombardier Advanced Rapid Transit linear induction technology, but rather another fully automated transit vehicle using more conventional motors than the linear induction motor used in trains on the Expo and Millennium lines. The Request For Proposals also required that the system have an ultimate capacity of 15,000 pphpd (leaving the choice of technology and platform length to the proponent) and required a maximum travel time between YVR and downtown Vancouver of 24 minutes. The new line will also be automated like the other two existing lines.





COST


CAN$2.05 BILLION
- Government of Canada: $300 million
- Government of British Columbia: $400 million
- Greater Vancouver Transportation Authority (Translink): $400 million
- Vancouver International Airport: $250 million
- InTransitBC (SNC-Lavalin; private sector): $650+ million
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Old April 11th, 2009, 01:37 AM   #3405
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Old April 11th, 2009, 01:38 AM   #3406
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This is Lansdowne Station, pictures taken by me yesterday at the open house.






















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Old April 11th, 2009, 06:40 AM   #3408
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NEWS RELEASE: Surrey Leader

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Demonstrators hit highway for light rail
Apr 7, 2009

Advocates of a light rail line to the Fraser Valley are planning a mass protest against the province’s pricey plan to build a new 10-lane Port Mann Bridge.

The “day of action” is set for Saturday, April 11 and organizers with the group Rail For The Valley intend to place banner-waving demonstrators on overpasses overlooking Highway 1 from West Vancouver to Chilliwack.

“We think the Port Mann Bridge project is a lot of money being spent on a bridge that’s not going to do anything for the light rail needs of the Fraser Valley,” said Rail For The Valley spokesman John Buker.

“People are asking for an alternative to driving their cars and we haven’t seen anything from the government.”

The cost of the combined Port Mann replacement and Highway 1 corridor widening has escalated from a previous $1.7 billion to $2.46 billion. Once financing and maintenance costs over the life of the project are included, the total bill is estimated at $3.1 billion.

“You could have an extensive light rail network for a fraction of the cost all the way out to Chilliwack,” Buker said. “You could build new light rail all through Surrey and Langley.”

He said the province shouldn’t try to spend its way out of the recession by tearing down the existing Port Mann Bridge.

Buker is hoping for hundreds of protesters lining the highway between 11 a.m. and 1 p.m. on the protest day.

“South of the Fraser will be saying no to second-class transit and the government preoccupation with road building to the exclusion of light rail.”
The group is also concerned about what it sees as the province’s bias in favour of more expensive SkyTrain technology that runs either above or below traffic.

UBC professor Patrick Condon estimates a $3-billion-plus investment could instead produce an extensive 200-kilometre network of light rail trams south of the Fraser.

Condon has generated maps showing such a network could place tram lines within a 10-minute walk of 80 per cent of the residents in Surrey, White Rock, Langley and parts of North Delta.


[IMG]http://media.bclocalnews.com/images/320*339/19981aldergroveTramExpandValleyWEB.jpg[/IMG]



A deluxe light rail line running to Chilliwack could have been built for half the price of the new Canada Line, according to Rail For The Valley.

The group argues a service could be started quickly on the old Interurban rail line.

While a light rail line could eventually run over the new Port Mann Bridge, it’s not in the initial plan.

“If light rail is not on the bridge by 2013 when it opens I don’t think it will ever be added to the bridge,” Buker said, predicting the government will never take away lanes from regular traffic for transit service.

The provincial government has launched a detailed study of future transit needs in the Fraser Valley, but findings aren’t expected to be released before next month’s election.

Bog pilgrimage planned

A second anti-Gateway event is also in the works, this time targeted against the South Fraser Perimeter Road and its impacts on Burns Bog.

Described as a “pilgrimage,” churches and spiritual groups from across Metro Vancouver are expected to march to the bog on April 26.

The 40-kilometre truck freeway got environmental approval from the province despite persistent fears the bog’s drainage will be disrupted.
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Old April 11th, 2009, 10:03 AM   #3409
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Those trains look so fresh and clean. If only they could stay like that for ever...
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please tell me the chain link is not permanant. It looks like a very ghetto version of platform doors.
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Old April 13th, 2009, 08:24 AM   #3411
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What do you think?

Of course they'll get removed.
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Old April 14th, 2009, 08:39 AM   #3412
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it was nice in person - should be neat to ride
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Fence is there to make sure full train testing can occur while the stations are being constructed...
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agree with you.... the best post ever!!!!
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In my defense being in iraq plays with my head...

All i see all day are chainlink and t-walls
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For all it's the worth, the interior of the trains are pretty sterile.
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I don't like these South Korean stock. At least from apparence wise they look one generation behind what the big three are making.

And why did Vancouver degrade it self to the uses of third rail? Can't afford linear induction anymore?

Sigh, we're going backwards.
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You do realize the Skytrain uses 3rd Rail, right?

All LIM powered trains use either 3rd rail, or overhead Catenary.

All righty then...
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I don't like these South Korean stock. At least from apparence wise they look one generation behind what the big three are making.

And why did Vancouver degrade it self to the uses of third rail? Can't afford linear induction anymore?

Sigh, we're going backwards.
I thought the appearance of this trains followed the canadian trend or something because Everline trains from Bombardier looked alike.

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