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Old August 16th, 2009, 04:11 AM   #3661
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That's all I have today sorry. They are testing announcements today, I randomly heard "outbound platform" really loudly at Bridgeport. No announcements made about next stations on the trains for some reason, but they weren't displaying the final terminus on the LED signs either, so I'm guessing they were turned off for some reason.

The way the platform signs work is that once the train arrives at the station, the time for the train disappears. As soon as the train closes its doors and moves, the platform sign moves everything up. Works quite fast.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 09:52 AM   #3662
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That's all I have today sorry. They are testing announcements today, I randomly heard "outbound platform" really loudly at Bridgeport. No announcements made about next stations on the trains for some reason, but they weren't displaying the final terminus on the LED signs either, so I'm guessing they were turned off for some reason.

The way the platform signs work is that once the train arrives at the station, the time for the train disappears. As soon as the train closes its doors and moves, the platform sign moves everything up. Works quite fast.
My goodness, no need to apologise!! Thank you sooo much for sharing the pictures with us - very enlightening. I can't wait to ride it myself, hopefully sometime in the fall!
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Old August 17th, 2009, 05:42 PM   #3663
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This blog piece is getting a lot of attention:


Canada Line subsidy will be felt for years to come
By Charlie Smith


The 19-kilometre Canada Line will open with great political fanfare on Monday (August 17).

The public will be allowed to ride for free from 1 p.m. to 9 p.m. on the line, which runs from Waterfront Station to Richmond Centre and to the airport.

But that's when the free ride will end. TransLink has already acknowledged that it might take until 2013 before the Canada Line generates 100,000 riders per day.

And that could be bad news for taxpayers and transit riders.

InTransit B.C. Limited Partnership, which is the private operator, has signed a 35-year deal with TransLink. And TransLink has guaranteed to subsidize Canada Line ridership shortfalls of less than 100,000 per day.

If TransLink, as a publicly funded body, wants to maintain public trust, it should report this subsidy on a quarterly basis.

TransLink is seeking an additional $450 million per year to enhance the transportation system. If it gets its wish, there will be new vehicle-registration charges as well as tolls on Metro Vancouver bridges, including those connecting Vancouver to the North Shore.

TransLink had better hope that the peak-oil theorists are wrong. Because if they're correct, it will hit the transportation authority in three ways:

* Airport traffic will diminish, reducing ridership on the Canada Line.

* Rising fuel prices will cause people to curtail driving, which will reduce the amount of fuel taxes (12 cents a litre) rolling into TransLink's coffers.

* Fewer people will be driving over tolled bridges including the Golden Ears Bridge. In the latter case, TransLink will have to offset this by providing greater subsidies to the private operator, just like it will do with the Canada Line if airport traffic diminishes.

The Canada Line is a primary reason why TransLink is in a financial pinch. I can recall two municipal politicians--Vision Vancouver Coun. Raymond Louie and former North Vancouver City mayor Barbara Sharp--voting in favour of the line in 2004 after a motion passed calling for a $1.35-billion cap on public financing.

The $1.35-billion figure is obvious fiction after the operating subsidies are included in the equation.

Louie and Sharp caved in the face of pressure from the Vancouver Board of Trade, the Vancouver Sun editorial board, the Vancouver Airport Authority, and the provincial and federal governments, which all wanted the line built.

If drivers, homeowners, and transit riders all end up paying a great deal more in the coming years, they can lay part of the blame on Louie and Sharp.

But they weren't the only TransLink directors responsible. Senator Larry Campbell, former Surrey mayor Doug McCallum, Surrey councillor Marvin Hunt, former Langley City mayor Marlene Grinnell, Richmond mayor Malcom Brodie, and former Coquitlam mayor Jon Kingsbury all voted in favour of the Canada Line.

It's worth noting that Larry Campbell's friend, SFU criminologist Neil Boyd, cast the deciding vote at the regional board in favour of a $4-billion plan that helped finance TransLink's contribution. At the time, Boyd represented Bowen Island on the regional board.

If the Bowen Island council had left the then-mayor Lisa Barrett on the board, the transportation plan likely would never have been passed because Barrett was a staunch opponent of building the Canada Line as a P3 project. Barrett, now a Bowen Island councillor, also didn't believe the early forecasts that 100,000 people would be riding the Canada Line in 2009.

Because of a seemingly insignificant decision--replacing a regional board director in a tiny island municipality that had one vote at Metro Vancouver--the public might end up paying much higher transportation costs in the future.


http://www.straight.com/article-2477...elt-years-come

If this line is being heavily subsidized, what was the point of building at a P3?
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Old August 17th, 2009, 07:38 PM   #3664
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^ it takes a few years for the public to get used to a service in order to reach its projected ridership and break even.

Sometime next year, the Canada Line will reach 70,000 boardings/day at the very least. At the same time, there's also a possibility they could reach the needed 100,000 by the end of next year.



Anyhow, the Canada Line opens in less than 4 hours!
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Old August 17th, 2009, 07:40 PM   #3665
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I think the author of the article above got some points wrong: Because peak-oil would actually mean a larger ridership in PT.
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Old August 17th, 2009, 09:14 PM   #3666
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^ it takes a few years for the public to get used to a service in order to reach its projected ridership and break even.

Sometime next year, the Canada Line will reach 70,000 boardings/day at the very least. At the same time, there's also a possibility they could reach the needed 100,000 by the end of next year.



Anyhow, the Canada Line opens in less than 4 hours!
Well, I do not expect a transit line to break even initially. Hence why I question the merits of making the line a P3.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 07:11 AM   #3667
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Waterfront Stn New Map:

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Most exciting part of the sardine Canada Line conditions, the train door opened slightly! It was busy, and it was probably above crush load capacity.


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The Next Station, Terminus Station YVR-Airport
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We took the 424-Airport Stn bus instead of waiting at YVR-Airport Stn to avoid the two hour lineup wait -___-" We got off at Templeton and took the train! It's all good =D


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More than 80,000 take a free ride on Vancouver's new Canada Line
Kelly Sinoski , Vancouver Sun: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:47 AM

METRO VANCOUVER — Tens of thousands of Metro Vancouver residents waited more than two hours Monday for a free ride on the new $2-billion Canada Line, backing up several stations and clogging pockets of Vancouver’s downtown core.

The lineups started forming hours before the new rapid transit line opened at 1 p.m. and by early afternoon, the crowds snaked around Vancouver’s Waterfront Station, filled up Granville Square and spilled over onto Hastings Street in the downtown, and into the departure lounge at the airport.

By 3 p.m., TransLink was urging passengers to get off at Waterfront, YVR and Richmond-Brighouse stations and wait in line for the return trip to let others have a chance to ride the train.

Five extra trains were added during the evening rush hour — bringing the total to 19 — to help ease the crush, while 11 extra buses were brought in to help reduce the overflow crowds waiting for the 98 B-Line between Vancouver and Richmond as well as the No. 41 and No. 99 B-Line along Broadway.

“We had just about every bus pushed into service,” TransLink spokesman Drew Snider said.

The lines were capped at certain stations at 7 p.m. although TransLink said no passengers would be left stranded.

“It’s a good test for the system in terms of carrying this many people,” TransLink spokesman Ken Hardie said. “The crowds have been big, but they’ve been patient.”

Close to 10,000 people an hour were riding the line and TransLink had counted 80,000 passengers by the time the service stopped at 9 p.m.

The service was free on opening day to celebrate the opening of the transit line linking Vancouver, Richmond and the airport.

Premier Gordon Campbell and Stockwell Day, the federal minister of international trade, cut a ribbon this morning at Vancouver International Airport to officially open the new line. Then they joined other dignitaries and media for a ride into downtown Vancouver.

The opening day drew everyone from seniors to families and disabled people. At least half a dozen wheelchairs and a man with a seeing-eye dog were among those on the first train.

At Waterfront, passengers were unfazed by the long wait for the train and remained in line despite warnings they would have to get off at the airport and wait another two hours to get back on again.

It was the same at Vancouver City Centre, where some trains were terminated to ease the crush at Waterfront. At the airport, crowds stretched from the platform, down the stairs to Level 3 and out onto the departures level.

“We don’t mind waiting,” said Vancouver resident Loro Cadman, as she stood in line at Granville Square. “We’re retired and it’s an historic thing.”

Cadman said the new rapid transit line should reduce the time it takes to make her frequent trips to Steveston. Now, rather than take a bus to Richmond Centre, she can hop on the train.

Several travellers, including Shea Ferguson of Fernie, were among the first to use the new line from the airport to downtown, while Niels Goverse got to the airport using the new line.

“It’s amazing,” Goverse said. “Otherwise I would have to use the 98 B-Line and it’s really packed so this is really good. It’s definitely a better system.”

Shauna Stanyer and her two children travelled from Port Coquitlam for “an adventure” on the new line. The trio had to wait two hours at Waterfront, but Stanyer said the trip was worth it and the family would definitely take the line to the airport whenever they travelled.

Hardie said that overall, the day went fairly smoothly. There were a few glitches, including things falling on the guideway, a cranky elevator and a few problems with the doors.

Several passengers inadvertently hit the emergency stop buttons, which forced the trains to halt on the bridge over the Fraser River or at stations, and required emergency personnel to rush to the scene.

The Canada Line, which is touted as the equivalent of a 10-lane highway, is expected to take 200,000 one-way automobile trips off the road when it reaches its forecast ridership. It will start up again Tuesday with the first train leaving Waterfront at 4:50 a.m. Fares are $3.75 one way.

Hardie expects the passenger load to be lighter Tuesday, which will help TransLink ramp up slowly toward Sept. 7 and the Labour Day rush when several express buses, including those from White Rock and Delta, will no longer go downtown but will be rerouted to Bridgeport Station. The 98 B-Line will also stop running at that time, in an attempt to funnel more people onto the new line.

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It was a gong show:

- 2-4 hour line ups for a handful of stations
- 2,000-5,000 people lining up at a handful of stations
- 100,000+ people used it

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