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Old October 31st, 2016, 06:20 AM   #4161
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Old October 31st, 2016, 06:21 AM   #4162
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Old November 8th, 2016, 08:30 PM   #4163
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Millennium Line Evergreen Extension opens 2016.12.02



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Old December 2nd, 2016, 11:03 AM   #4164
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Congratulations Vancouver with today's opening of Evergreen extension of SkyTrain!!!

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Old December 2nd, 2016, 10:24 PM   #4165
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Congratulations Metro Vancouver on opening of the Millennium Line extension.

As of noon today, Vancouver has the longest rapid transit system in Canada (it now has more track kilometres than the Toronto subway and RT (including the Spadina extension under construction) and Montreal Metro system), and Vancouver is now home to the longest automated rapid transit system in the world (Dubai is now in second place).

Of course, when Toronto opens the LRT network, it will regain the title for longest metro system in Canada.
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Old December 2nd, 2016, 11:25 PM   #4166
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Congratulations Metro Vancouver on opening of the Millennium Line extension.

As of noon today, Vancouver has the longest rapid transit system in Canada (it now has more track kilometres than the Toronto subway and RT (including the Spadina extension under construction) and Montreal Metro system), and Vancouver is now home to the longest automated rapid transit system in the world (Dubai is now in second place).

Of course, when Toronto opens the LRT network, it will regain the title for longest metro system in Canada.
Crosstown and the oher LRT are being built similar to Harbourfront, Spadina and St Clair. That would mean that Toronto is still the champ.
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 01:03 AM   #4167
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Of course, when Toronto opens the LRT network, it will regain the title for longest metro system in Canada.
Since when is LRT considered a Subway?
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 03:53 AM   #4168
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Since when is LRT considered a Subway?
Since when is the Skytrain considered a subway?
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 04:35 AM   #4169
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Since when is the Skytrain considered a subway?
It is considered a rapid transit system or light metro AKA Subway, Metro, etc. which the Crosstown LRT is not.

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Old December 3rd, 2016, 06:43 PM   #4170
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Old December 4th, 2016, 04:49 AM   #4171
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It seems that the train on Millennium Line just 2-car train ?
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Old December 4th, 2016, 08:06 AM   #4172
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Old December 4th, 2016, 08:32 AM   #4173
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SkyTrain is in every way a full Metro/subway system. It is an electric, 100% grade separated system with EXTREMELY high frequencies. It uses a less often used technology but that changes nothing.

Toronto's LRT lines are not Metro/subway eventhough there are large underground portions. In order for a system to be considered a Metro/subway the system must be 100% grade separated. electric, not share any rail TRACKS with freight {but it can use the same corridor}, and must be relatively frequent and part of the standard local transit system{s}. In other words Toronto's new LRT are not Metros due to having large road sharing areas and large HSR lines are also not considered Metro as they are not built for or operated for local use in conjunction with local transit services.

Vancouver does indeed now have Canada's largest Metro/subway system but that will not last long as Montreal is starting construction on a large Lite-Metro system and much of Toronto's 200km RER system being built will also meet the definition of Metro.
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SkyTrain is in every way a full Metro/subway system. It is an electric, 100% grade separated system with EXTREMELY high frequencies. It uses a less often used technology but that changes nothing.

Toronto's LRT lines are not Metro/subway eventhough there are large underground portions. In order for a system to be considered a Metro/subway the system must be 100% grade separated. electric, not share any rail TRACKS with freight {but it can use the same corridor}, and must be relatively frequent and part of the standard local transit system{s}. In other words Toronto's new LRT are not Metros due to having large road sharing areas and large HSR lines are also not considered Metro as they are not built for or operated for local use in conjunction with local transit services.

Vancouver does indeed now have Canada's largest Metro/subway system but that will not last long as Montreal is starting construction on a large Lite-Metro system and much of Toronto's 200km RER system being built will also meet the definition of Metro.
London, Chicago, New York, Tokyo, Kyoto, Osaka, and Paris might all beg to differ with your definition. All of them have or have had sections with grade crossings, infrequent service, and freight operation. Chicago's CTA even maintained its own fleet of freight locomotives until its last customers closed down and it lost the business.

Toronto's system will not be entirely grade-separated. And last I checked, Montreal was still an unofficial proposal by a private entity to convert some commuter lines-which has opposition from those on the other lines that would lose service, including a very new one.
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Since when is the Skytrain considered a subway?
Some of its sections run underground so subway is right.
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A subway/Metro does not to be underground just grade separated whether that be at-grade, tunnelled, trenched, elevated or a combination. The vast majority of the world's newer Metro systems have little underground section due to the enormous cost and being very disruptive and time consuming to build.
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C$2bn Vancouver transport investment approved
24 Nov 2016



CANADA: Vancouver regional transport authority TransLink approved the C$2bn Phase One of the 10-Year Vision for Metro Vancouver Transit & Transportation on November 23. Developed in 2014, this master plan envisages infrastructure and service improvements across the region’s various transport networks.

Phase One covers the period to 2019. Funding includes a C$370m federal contribution and C$246m from the British Columbia government, with the balance to be met from TransLink sources, including increased fares, and tax revenue

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Old December 7th, 2016, 02:52 PM   #4178
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A subway/Metro does not to be underground just grade separated whether that be at-grade, tunnelled, trenched, elevated or a combination. The vast majority of the world's newer Metro systems have little underground section due to the enormous cost and being very disruptive and time consuming to build.
Except that, as I've noted, Tokyo and Chicago both have stretches of their systems with grade crossings.
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Except that, as I've noted, Tokyo and Chicago both have stretches of their systems with grade crossings.
I know of a couple of grade-crossings on the L, but is this really something you can find on the Tokyo Metro or Toei subway? I know it's common on their high frequency commuter rail, but that seems extreme for a metro system.

But regardless, there's a big difference between something having the rare exception as opposed to the exception being a prevailing characteristic.
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Old December 8th, 2016, 05:49 AM   #4180
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I know of a couple of grade-crossings on the L, but is this really something you can find on the Tokyo Metro or Toei subway? I know it's common on their high frequency commuter rail, but that seems extreme for a metro system.

But regardless, there's a big difference between something having the rare exception as opposed to the exception being a prevailing characteristic.
There are a couple here and there. There's one on the Ginza line, if I remember correctly. And the private railways are essentially extensions of the subway, with the same trains and level of service.
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