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Old July 24th, 2005, 10:47 PM   #581
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I agree to that there should be more cctv on buses and trains. But the only problem would many people would oppose to it saying it violates there privacy and im not sure that the government would want to put up with all the lawsuits.
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Old July 25th, 2005, 08:17 AM   #582
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Old July 25th, 2005, 08:24 AM   #583
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Old July 25th, 2005, 08:52 AM   #584
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Old July 25th, 2005, 01:40 PM   #585
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I agree to that there should be more cctv on buses and trains. But the only problem would many people would oppose to it saying it violates there privacy and im not sure that the government would want to put up with all the lawsuits.
after what has been going on in London, it has been quite useful in recording the faces of the terrorists.
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Old July 25th, 2005, 07:15 PM   #586
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There is nothing wrong with CCTVs on busses and skytrain. So long as there are strict rules for their use.

For example if a camera picture is going to be put on TV only the suspect's face should be visible the rest should be blocked out.

In Victoria the Double decker buses already have a camera for the driver to monitor what is going on on the upper deck.

That Trolley bus looks awesome!

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Old July 25th, 2005, 07:20 PM   #587
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Traditionally double decker buses all have monitoring devices. Before the arrival of webcams on the upper deck, a mirror is installed on a corner while an opening that leads to the driver's cab. The driver can see the entire upper deck.
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Old July 25th, 2005, 07:24 PM   #588
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that sounds pretty cool I will have to check out some of the old busses here in town.
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Old July 25th, 2005, 07:26 PM   #589
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If the steering wheel is on the right, then go up to the front row seat and look for a mirror on the upper right corner. Then look down to the panel by the right side seat and you'll see an opening leading down to the driver's cab.
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Old July 25th, 2005, 07:28 PM   #590
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I love Victoria's double decker buses i wish Calgary would get some but there are too many low bridges leading out of downtown.
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Old July 25th, 2005, 08:27 PM   #591
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When Victoria first got them they had to raise a couple of pedestrian and rail bridges so they could get underneath. The one major drawback of them became apparent last winter. During the one snow storm we had the double deckers all get stuck because there is some sort of anti spin lock on the tires. If the busses lost traction then the brakes locked so pretty much all of them had to be towed off the road. While all the New Flyer busses cruised around no problem.
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Old July 26th, 2005, 06:38 AM   #592
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In Singapore, the newer metro trains have CCTVs in all cars. They aren't big, most people don't notice them either. But it is good in the vent of a terrorist attack where investigators can review what went on in the train or bus. They are planning to upgrade the older trains and busses here to have CCTVs in them as well.

I don't understand, why is it considered a violation of privacy when it is public transport?
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Old July 26th, 2005, 10:22 AM   #593
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I would rather have money spent on stuff that is actually going to be useful for people using transit. Each d60lf would need 3 cameras, each mk I skytrain 4, each mk II 12, each normal bus needing 1, etc. This would be quite expensive, and wouldnt do much other than give us a false sense of security...
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Old July 26th, 2005, 10:24 AM   #594
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The trolley bus doesn't look that bad from the outside after all.

ALSO, can anyone tell me if the RAV preliminary construction (ie. moving of utilities etc..) has begun yet because they say that construction starts at like Aug 2005.
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Old July 26th, 2005, 11:27 AM   #595
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For most of the line they are still doing geotechnical testing - ie. bore holes.

The first part to start will be the North Arm of the Fraser bridge. They have to do that at this time of year to avoid impacts on fish habitat - otherwise they'd have to wait a whole year.
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Old July 26th, 2005, 11:36 AM   #596
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What type of bridge are they building over the fraser? Hopefully it is like the same one next to the patullo bridge.
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renderings show cable-stayed with needle towers (as opposed to Skybridge or Alex Fraser where the traffic goes through the towers - this will see trains go around the towers (like the Millau Viaduct style).

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Old July 31st, 2005, 09:53 PM   #598
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^ that's gonna look so awesome. something to really look at when tourists arrive here in 2010. kinda reminds me of that bridge in Hong Kong, only much smaller.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 12:59 AM   #599
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Many buses in London already have CCTV and the televisions on board actually show the CCTV's views once in a while.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 03:38 PM   #600
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The still build trolley buses? wow, that's pretty crazy.

In Brisbane, we have had cameras on trains for years and the council is starting to put cameras into buses, they're no big deal really. Everyone seems to be fine with them.
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