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Old May 20th, 2005, 03:22 AM   #61
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Having police on the subway is obscene.
Why don't they use those police for where they are needed............the city streets.
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Old May 20th, 2005, 04:36 AM   #62
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Constables patrol the Skytrain since it doesn't have gates so some people may not pay to ride. A lot of metro systems around the world have police coverage, including Toronto.
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Old May 20th, 2005, 09:30 AM   #63
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As for capacity - these lines are built for the future, not the present. If you build for the present, you'll always be behind. How often do you hear about infrastructure facities that are currently handling much more than its original design specification?
Yeah, thats what people seem not to understand smaller and less dense cities like Calgary and Portland can sustain at grade less capacity transit systems, whereas Vancouver cant, in the future it will have to rip up and build a more capacity system, so its better now to build it right for much more capacity for the future.
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Old May 21st, 2005, 12:21 AM   #64
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Yeah, thats what people seem not to understand smaller and less dense cities like Calgary and Portland can sustain at grade less capacity transit systems, whereas Vancouver cant, in the future it will have to rip up and build a more capacity system, so its better now to build it right for much more capacity for the future.
Huh? Portland's metro population is around the same as Vancouver's...Portland's not smaller. Also, density wise, they're not that far apart.
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Old May 21st, 2005, 01:03 PM   #65
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They definitely should go the "non-lethal" route with weapons, if they're even necessary.
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Old May 21st, 2005, 03:05 PM   #66
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what's the difference between Portland's and Vancouver's metro areas, and commuting patterns? I've been to Portland several times, and the city always 'feels' slightly smaller than Vancouver, at the same time Seattle metro feels quite a bit bigger than Vancouvers, so I'm curious to know the similar metro numbers.
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Old May 22nd, 2005, 02:23 PM   #67
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Vancouver's metro with Burnaby, Langely, Delta, Coquitlam, Maple Ridge, New Westminister, North Vancouver, Port Coquitlam, Port Moody, Richmond, Surrey, University of endowment lands, West Vancouver and White Rock = 2.2 million, with Abbotsford, Chilliwack, Mission = 2.4-2.5 million.

Portland Metro area, Beaverton, Gresham, Hillsboro, Milwauki, Salem, Tigard, and Vancouver = 1160362, if someones from Portland, hopefully you can shed the light as to what makes the metro add up to 2 million.... regardless its smaller and density wise lol, its not even close.

Seattle metro area, Arlington, Bainbridge Island, Bellvue, Auburn, Bremerton, bothell, everette, Edmonds, Tacoma, Redmond, etc... too many suburbs lol but its around 3.5-3.7 million.
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Old May 24th, 2005, 04:34 PM   #68
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I don't at all agree with armed police at stations. The rational is that Vancouver has a high crime rate and EXTREMLY high compared to other major Canadian cities like Toronto. Primarily due to Vancouver's drug problems and lower incomes with honour system which makes for a lot of cheating. You don't get crime or as much fare evation In Calgary's CTrain due to its much lower crime rate.
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Old May 26th, 2005, 04:49 AM   #69
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SkyTrain glitch between Waterfront and Stadium
Last updated May 24 2005 04:27 PM PDT
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VANCOUVER – A technical problem between Waterfront and Stadium stations is causing delays for SkyTrain passengers trying to get out of downtown Vancouver on Tuesday afternoon.

One line of the track was shut down after it was discovered officials couldn't communicate with the automated trains.

That means trains won't be going or into the downtown core. Instead, trains on the Expo line will turn around at Stadium station. And shuttles will move passengers to Waterfront.

"There could be some delays getting out of the downtown area depending on how long it takes to rectify the problem," says TransLink spokesperson Ken Hardie.

"If we're still running the shuttle train between Waterfront and Stadium, then it will be pretty busy along Granville, Burrard stations. At the same time, people can make their way directly to Stadium station and they should be able to pick up trains more or less normally."

SkyTrain officials don't know how long it will take to fix the problem.
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Old May 26th, 2005, 07:31 PM   #70
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Things like that happen to all systems but with SkyTrain they are few and far between. I'm more interested in the safety record and the SkyTrain for all its faults has not had one accident in the entire 20 years its been in service.
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Old May 27th, 2005, 02:13 AM   #71
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VANCOUVER – A technical problem between Waterfront and Stadium stations is causing delays for SkyTrain passengers trying to get out of downtown Vancouver on Tuesday afternoon.
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Thats gotta suck for commutters.
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Old May 30th, 2005, 02:51 AM   #72
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Certainly but things happen on all systems from time to time.
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Old June 3rd, 2005, 02:12 AM   #73
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TransLink awards new transit ad contract to Lamar Advertising

In a deal that could be worth at least $135 million over the next 15 years, TransLink has signed a contract with Lamar Advertising to market advertising on the transit system including buses, SkyTrain, SeaBus and West Coast Express. Lamar, formerly Obie Media, was awarded the last contract in 1998 by BC Transit, which expires at the end of July.


An in-depth analysis rated their proposal best overall of the four received based on the guaranteed payment, current advertising products, new revenue opportunities, potential ad revenue from the 2010 Winter Olympics and other factors. The contract is for ten years and TransLink has an option to extend it by another five years. TransLink will receive 60 per cent of the net advertising revenue after expenses, or a guaranteed amount, whichever is greater.


The guarantee will be $5.5 million in the first year, ramping up to $9.8 million in the tenth year, and $13.1 million by the 15th year if TransLink exercises the option to extend the contract beyond 2015.


“Lamar’s experience in this market and their understanding of what can and cannot be done here really stood out in their proposal,” said TransLink Chair Doug McCallum. “We have great confidence that they will exceed the minimum guarantee, which will be a huge boost to our plans to expand transit services. Every dollar we can generate through advertising is a dollar we don’t need to charge in fares or taxes,” he said.


TransLink offered a longer contract than the one due to expire this year in order to give the successful company more time to develop new, innovative media such as video on transit vehicles and at stations, and to recoup their capital investment. There are thousands of advertising spaces currently available on the system, including inside and outside vehicles and at transit stations. With an annual circulation of over 270 million passengers, TransLink’s transit network represents the biggest single advertising medium in the province.


Chair McCallum said the surging economy and the growth in the transit system, in terms of ridership, hours of service and vehicles, have significantly increased the potential value of the advertising contract. “We’ve bucked the trend in North America, where a number of large systems have actually seen their revenue decline in new contracts. Ours will more than double, from an average of $4 million per year over the last seven years to an average $9 million per year if the new contract runs the fullest possible term.”
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Old June 3rd, 2005, 05:25 AM   #74
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RAV stations...........
I read that the new Vancouver/UBC planning transit plan will include a new 16th Ave bus {thank god} but RAV won't have a 16th Ave station because it doesn'r have a bus transfer. How will this effect RAV stion allighnments?
I hope they get a station, 16 blocks between stations in the city is rediculous and only Translink could do it.
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Old June 9th, 2005, 06:44 PM   #75
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RAV construction starts in August: Early jobs are preparatory activities, including utility and road relocation
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VANCOUVER - Preliminary construction on the $1.72-billion Richmond-Airport-Vancouver rapid-transit project is scheduled to begin in August, Ravco CEO Jane Bird said Wednesday.

In a meeting with the editorial board of The Vancouver Sun, Bird said a number of jobs will be started soon.

"The early ones are preparatory activities, including the utility and road relocations to allow for formal construction of the line itself, in particular construction of the bridge over the north arm of the Fraser River that will begin this fall, and the beginning of the cast-concrete facility at the corner of Kent Avenue and Fraser Street," she said.

Bird said Ravco expects federal and provincial decisions this month on its application for an environmental assessment certificate to allow its cut-and-cover construction to proceed.

Cut-and-cover construction, which involves digging a deep trench, is planned along Granville from Hastings Street to the south side of Dunsmuir Street in the downtown core, and from Second Avenue to 37th Avenue south of False Creek along the Cambie Street route.

Ravco will be in B.C. Supreme Court later this month for an estimated three days to answer a petition filed by the Do RAV Right Coalition, which is challenging the process under which the provincial environmental assessment office accepted Ravco's application for a permit.

Controversy arose late last year when it became known the underground portion of the RAV line would be built using cut-and-cover construction, rather than boring a tunnel.

"The matter at hand is whether the process followed by the environmental assessment office in particular, and by RAV as the applicant, was consistent with the Environmental Assessment Act and the requirements of that act," Bird said. "Our position is that it was entirely consistent."

She said Ravco has been holding discussions with residents of the Cambie Street boulevard area, as well as with business owners and operators along the length of the planned route.

While she reiterated Ravco will not compensate business for lost revenue due to construction, she said it will provide funding for a project director to help businesses deal with the disruption, and to provide market research to measure potential disruption.

She would not say how much money RAV will contribute, but added a director should be in place by September.

Jeff Hewitt, Ravco's senior vice-president of engineering, said Ravco is in negotiations with the City of Vancouver to reroute vehicle traffic during construction.

The plan under consideration calls for closing the northbound lanes of Cambie Street along the eastern side of the boulevard from 25th Avenue to 63rd Avenue. Traffic would be redirected to the current southbound lanes on the western side, which would be reconfigured as one northbound lane and two southbound lanes.

Traffic would be kept to three lanes to minimize the need to cut into the existing boulevard and to reduce traffic flow to cut down use of side streets by commuters.

Hewitt said the rerouting would be done in sections, each involving one major intersection at a time and progressing southward.

Bird said financial negotiations with SNC-Lavalin/Serco and InTransitBC, the company it has put together to handle the project, are expected to conclude by the end of June.
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Old June 10th, 2005, 03:28 AM   #76
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So the $1.74bil line for lousy transit begins, yeeha!
What a waste, could be just as fast for half the price and that extra $800mil would but a lot of buses and SkyTrain cars. But LRT doesn't look as pretty when cutting a ribbon.
Highway robbery on the tax payer's highway.
Of course this all could have been avoided if Vancouver had used something known as urban planning 30 years ago.
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RAV approval worries Cambie businesses

Last updated Jun 9 2005 08:22 AM PDT
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VANCOUVER – Some Cambie Street business owners are upset over the government's approval Wednesday of the RAV line's environmental assessment.

The study found the so-called cut-and-cover method of tunnelling for the new airport-to-downtown connector to be environmentally sound.

The Cambie Street section of the RAV line was originally slated to have its tunnelling done using an underground boring technique, but that was changed to a cheaper cut-and-cover plan that will involve above-ground construction.

Business owners along the planned rapid transit route maintain that method of construction would kill their business.

But provincial Resource Management Minister George Abbott says the final environmental hurdle for the project has been cleared and the RAV line is a go.

* LINK: TransLink background on RAV line

Abbott says despite claims to the contrary, construction won't hurt businesses along the Cambie route. He says businesses will be affected during a three-month period, but pedestrian access will be maintained.

"We believe that by having the business liaison program (and) having RAVCo work closely with the businesses, that those impacts can be mitigated."

Despite the minister's assurances, many entrepreneurs say they won't be able to stick it out in the neighbourhood.

"I'd like an answer as to how I operate a store for children on a construction site," says Corrie Clark, owner of the Oh Baby store on Cambie Street. "They say they'll mitigate my impact all the time. I'd like to know how they're going to mitigate my impact."

Clark says she will likely go out of business because she can't afford to move. But she says she'll continue to protest the RAV line until work crews are at her front door.


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Old June 10th, 2005, 03:32 AM   #78
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So the $1.74bil line for lousy transit begins, yeeha!
What a waste, could be just as fast for half the price and that extra $800mil would but a lot of buses and SkyTrain cars. But LRT doesn't look as pretty when cutting a ribbon. .
I quite agree IF they could build proper ROWs which I don't know if they can. I would love to see a downtown tram loop to serve DT Van residents with any savings. You question their urban planning though, one of the best in N.A.? Maybe they are building for the next 30 years, and its cheaper to build it now than later.
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I quite agree IF they could build proper ROWs which I don't know if they can. I would love to see a downtown tram loop to serve DT Van residents with any savings. You question their urban planning though, one of the best in N.A.? Maybe they are building for the next 30 years, and its cheaper to build it now than later.
there is a propsed downtown streetcar for Vancouver
http://city.vancouver.bc.ca/engsvcs/...tcar/index.htm
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If it goes ahead, I hope they don't use any of those 'modern streetcars'.
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