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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:56 AM   #961
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When I take it during the morning eastbound it is not near capacity at all. In fact, most people get seats easily. Same goes for coming back around 4pm westbound. However, when I look at buses in the other direction, they are jam packed.
I wouldn't say its unsafe, as I have never seen a B-Line block an intersection. They just need to figure out how to handle peak hours...
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Old March 24th, 2006, 10:00 AM   #962
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oh by the way, one more BUS DRIVER NUISANCE: I've had instances where I paid for a 3 zone ticket and not realising the driver only printed me a 1 zone ticket when I had to transfer...unbelievable
Heh, tell me about it. When I have to go to Surrey, I come in and say "3 zone ticket" and put the money in. After glancing at the ticket, I see it says 1 (not zone 1) and complain only to get a "why didn't you say you wanted a 3 zone ticket?"
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Old March 24th, 2006, 10:10 AM   #963
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Heh, tell me about it. When I have to go to Surrey, I come in and say "3 zone ticket" and put the money in. After glancing at the ticket, I see it says 1 (not zone 1) and complain only to get a "why didn't you say you wanted a 3 zone ticket?"

ohh those tickets dont print on exact spots.. so i once looked carefull and it said Zone Issued, and next to it is # of zones so look carefully~
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Old March 24th, 2006, 10:13 AM   #964
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well talking about it is easy but when it really comes, dont think we have the money to afford it, look here:

- Drivers want raise when contract ends (happens all the time)
- Current canada Line
- Coquitlam line
- New skytrain police
- complaints from residents who disagree
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Old March 24th, 2006, 10:21 AM   #965
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ohh those tickets dont print on exact spots.. so i once looked carefull and it said Zone Issued, and next to it is # of zones so look carefully~
Yes, as I said, it said it had a value of one for whatever they call that field (value I guess). The point is some of them just don't care and press the same button for each person who puts anything in the box.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:27 PM   #966
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Could I ask where do you get all these statistics? I am interested. (By the way, from personal experiences...its probably more like 200 people waiting in the 3 line ups for the 99B)
It's in the report on Translink's plans to improve the Broadway/Commercial Station area.

80 persons was from my personal experience. 200 people???? wow.
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Old March 25th, 2006, 01:04 AM   #967
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Yes, as I said, it said it had a value of one for whatever they call that field (value I guess). The point is some of them just don't care and press the same button for each person who puts anything in the box.
some bus drivers dont even know how to use that machine, they have to like figure it out themselve... i once asked them for a 2 zone and that took me a few mins
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Old March 25th, 2006, 02:40 AM   #968
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^ You forgot the ridiculously expensive cost of the Canada Line due to the Westside creme de la creme who simply insisted that any rapid transit built in their turf had to be tunneled even though for the rest of the Lower Mainland, elevated and at grade is an acceptable option. For the amount of extra costs incurred by the Canada Line, that could EASILY pay for an elevated Skytrain extension for UBC. And they could also have an actual physical link between the existing Skytrain system and the Canada Line system instead. So the Westside creme de la creme are solely to blame for all of the region's transportation problems...
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They could come up with creative ways to fund for the Millenium Line extension. Get a private company to pay for some of the cost and they get the building rights for properties surrounding the station. They do something like this in Hong Kong I think.
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Old March 25th, 2006, 03:49 AM   #970
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i hate those people who starts making rallys and stuff complaining about that cambie thing, translink is giving them some advantages and they start complaining and forcing translink to use another chunk of those money, as a result, the fare prices might raise again
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Old March 25th, 2006, 05:30 AM   #971
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Is Vancouver developing Bus Rapid Transit (BRT)? That might help out in bus only corriders which are not high up on the list of for skytrain extensions.
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Old March 25th, 2006, 05:40 AM   #972
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Oh man... I wish we here in San Francisco could do the same things you guys do up there....
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Old March 26th, 2006, 06:05 AM   #973
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Old March 27th, 2006, 09:48 AM   #974
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Old March 28th, 2006, 09:59 AM   #975
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^how could u say that, san fran has an amazing transit system.
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Old March 28th, 2006, 10:03 AM   #976
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They could come up with creative ways to fund for the Millenium Line extension. Get a private company to pay for some of the cost and they get the building rights for properties surrounding the station. They do something like this in Hong Kong I think.
Yes, all of the property is managed by the MTR corporation's real-estate wing. Private developers get into partnerships with the MTR to gain the building rights for properties surrounding the station. This insures reasonable ridership levels, and helps cover a lot of the MTR's yearly expenses.
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Old March 28th, 2006, 10:10 AM   #977
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^ You forgot the ridiculously expensive cost of the Canada Line due to the Westside creme de la creme who simply insisted that any rapid transit built in their turf had to be tunneled even though for the rest of the Lower Mainland, elevated and at grade is an acceptable option. For the amount of extra costs incurred by the Canada Line, that could EASILY pay for an elevated Skytrain extension for UBC. And they could also have an actual physical link between the existing Skytrain system and the Canada Line system instead. So the Westside creme de la creme are solely to blame for all of the region's transportation problems...
The underground option isn't necessary a bad decision, however the city's lack of political will to densify all of the areas surrounding the stations leaves a lot to be desired. Without a great deal of densification, ridership will fall below expectations.

I don't really think Westside NIMBYs live on Cambie, since it's so far east already. They're usually at least west of Granville or Oak (Westside NIMBYs would be upset with an elevated line on Broadway to UBC).
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Old March 29th, 2006, 12:33 AM   #978
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The B-Lines are almost BRT's, just without designated roadways, which would be a great idea. The 99 is only overcapacity one way though. Translink should find a way to expand ridership in the opposite direction UBC students go in. SFU has the same problem, although our transit station is much closer. Still, 145 up in the morning is so far beyond Standing Room Only.
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Old March 29th, 2006, 09:53 AM   #979
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Wally and his creme fetish are back
I suggest we built the RAV line with concrete support beams going through people's homes, will you be happy then? Better yet, lets build something through downtown eastside and when resident complain we will call them "creme de la creme"
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Old March 29th, 2006, 10:35 AM   #980
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well then in the morning:

For UBC, have more frequency going westbound than eastbound, and other way around for evening.

For SFU, Have more frquency going northbound, and other way around for evening.

should be like, for the "busy" side every 3 - 5 minutes, and the "deserted" side should be like every 7-10 minutes
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