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Old April 5th, 2006, 02:32 PM   #1041
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i dont think the "line" should be called the canada line, because it doesnt run throughout the country! its only between two cities! RAV sounds much better~~

as for airport... will it have a car only for carrying luggages?
But to some people, it'll be their first experience of Canada, outside the airport.
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Old April 5th, 2006, 08:06 PM   #1042
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Hmmmm, Translink/Cst Mtn Tran really ought to do something about their being plagued with thoughtless bus operators -- the stories being shared here appear to show that nothing's changed in the past seven years -- the city should really snap out of it.

I'm not blaming those very lousy drivers so much. I always thought that all the drivers ought to have easy access to counselling / stress mgmt fully / training fully sponsored by their employer, coz I must admit that that city does have its unfair share of mentally ill folks tripping around town there; I always believed driving a bus there demanded far, far more skills than just the driving.

Vancouverites -- plus many of its bus drivers -- had a tendancy to be rather snobby at the thought of using transit, whereas when I went back to Paris, I was once again floored at the amount of wealth that would step onto and off of its metros (the $10K-to-$50K brooches proudly worn by women, etc., etc., etc.)

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Old April 6th, 2006, 02:42 AM   #1043
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"Vancouverites -- plus many of its bus drivers -- had a tendancy to be rather snobby at the thought of using transit, whereas when I went back to Paris, I was once again floored at the amount of wealth that would step onto and off of its metros (the $10K-to-$50K brooches proudly worn by women, etc., etc., etc.)"
<<< Well, I think of wealthy people as being snobby in general, so there is some truth in that... Those rich gals on buses are probably just snobby people on buses. Paris is setup a little differently than Vancouver... In Vancouver, it's simply more convenient to use a car. In a trip across the city, it would take me about 30 minutes by car. On a bus, closer to an hour due to waiting, transfers, stops, walking... People who can afford the car tend to use it, that's it. So you see a bit of a division in the income level between transit users and car users.
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Old April 6th, 2006, 03:49 AM   #1044
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^ i agree with you, look at hong kong's transit system, theres like 3 or more companies competing each other and thats what make things great~! sometimes they have direct lines that does not need transferring and is fast and efficient~~ and for vancouver, we only have ONE company, if there was another company, the quality would sure be better. I have to take the bus no matter what, i cant even drive yet!

for lines like: #49, #41, (all lines in the hundreds) are always taking at least 10 - 15minutes per bus! and its COLD OUTSIDE!
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Old April 7th, 2006, 12:48 AM   #1045
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It's just another stuffy beuracratic name, like the evergreen line.....i don't care what it offically is called....it's stupid and I'm calling it the RAV! (or better yet, the Red line!)
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Old April 8th, 2006, 05:48 AM   #1046
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Well I certanily believe in the name Canada line for me it makes a whole lot of sense first off like Melbournecity stated alot of people will come too Canada for the first time. Since Vancouver will have the Olympics in 2010 it seems fitting that the line that opens just before these Olympics (which represent all of Canada) should be called the Canada line! There are other examples of places in cities in Canada that are international in nature that should represent Canada. There is expo 86 with Canada place as well!
Ontario has Ontario place in Toronto and I think that is also a great way to represent a province!
But think about people flying into Canada for the first time landing in Vancouver with the views then taking the next part of there transportation with the Canada line! Well if I am a Canadian I would certainly want there first experience of the place of the majestic views and beauty of Vancouver with the mountain backdrop and harbour setting of ocean views!
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Old April 8th, 2006, 06:07 AM   #1047
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you explanation is correct... and plus.. if you go to www.yvr.ca vancouver's airport is "The gateway to the games"
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Old April 8th, 2006, 07:28 AM   #1048
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wow, never thought of it that way. i guess it's a good name afterall.....though i would love to see "SkyTrain" added to the name.
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Old April 8th, 2006, 08:09 AM   #1049
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Well I certanily believe in the name Canada line for me it makes a whole lot of sense first off like Melbournecity stated alot of people will come too Canada for the first time. Since Vancouver will have the Olympics in 2010 it seems fitting that the line that opens just before these Olympics (which represent all of Canada) should be called the Canada line! There are other examples of places in cities in Canada that are international in nature that should represent Canada. There is expo 86 with Canada place as well!
Ontario has Ontario place in Toronto and I think that is also a great way to represent a province!
But think about people flying into Canada for the first time landing in Vancouver with the views then taking the next part of there transportation with the Canada line! Well if I am a Canadian I would certainly want there first experience of the place of the majestic views and beauty of Vancouver with the mountain backdrop and harbour setting of ocean views!
Well said and i agree...BC is going to be an amazing ambassador for Canada!
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Old April 8th, 2006, 07:37 PM   #1050
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wow, never thought of it that way. i guess it's a good name afterall.....though i would love to see "SkyTrain" added to the name.
the word skytrain dont sound so special anymore... because they have two lines named skytrain~~~ we need something fresh and new...
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Old April 8th, 2006, 09:59 PM   #1051
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the word skytrain dont sound so special anymore... because they have two lines named skytrain~~~ we need something fresh and new...
But then it becomes confusing for people, especialy ones not from here...

since the Canada line will be prety much the same as the Skytrain..same frequency, same station spacing, same speed, etc. it should be called the same as the rest of the Skytrain network, now if you get something like the West Coast express which is more of a express service since it has no stations from downtown to Port Moody then defenetly a different name, if its a LRT then I would also say it requires a different name because it no longer has the same speed.

my opinion at least
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Old April 8th, 2006, 10:22 PM   #1052
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Isn't the Canada Line just another line, being added to the Skytrain system? Like, there is the Millenium Line, and now they are adding Canada Line... nothing new there.

On another note, I have a question- is there currently any underground section of the Skytrain?

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Old April 8th, 2006, 10:28 PM   #1053
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as for airport... will it have a car only for carrying luggages?
You do realise this is a rapid transit line that not only serves the airport but also thousands of commuters in Richmond and Van. How could you have a car that carries only luggage??

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the word skytrain dont sound so special anymore...
I think most would agree that having all lines under the name Skytrain, Metro, etc. is a better form of branding in terms of a company's identity then having a mish mash of different terminologies.
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Old April 8th, 2006, 11:29 PM   #1054
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^ precisely. and regarding the name, just take a look at Hong Kong. They have the "MTR". In London, they have the "Underground". In Calgary, they have the "C-Train" and in San Francisco they have "BART".


The Canada Line is a light rail rapid transit line that has its own right of way. It uses third rail technology and is fully automated. 9 km of the line is tunnel, 8 km is elevated, and 1 km is at-grade. It will have a peak frequency of 90 seconds in Vancouver, and the two branch lines (YVR and Richmond) will have a peak frequency of 2-3 minutes. 19 km, 17 stations, and trains with a capacity of 340 persons each.
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Will the 1km of at-grade be on Sea Island?
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oh sweet! thanks for posting those renderings and diagrams in the last page, mr. x Richmond centre is gonna improve a lot...i especially like how they will finally build a bus loop.
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Old April 9th, 2006, 04:59 AM   #1057
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^ no problem.


The approximate 1-km of at-grade guideway will be built at Sea Island.
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my mistake, it's:

- 9.0 km of tunnel
- 8.9 km of elevated guideways
- 1.7 km of at-grade guidways
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Old April 9th, 2006, 07:52 AM   #1059
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Vancouver has no choice but to have a hybrid system, with a slant towards commuter transit, and style of built form dictates it.

Well maybe it should of built up 50-60 years ago, and we wouldn't be having these problems today, instead of the low density suburbs, but then again i really don't think it is a problem, it's probably faster than many systems.
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Terminal expansion options. NOTE OPTIONS T-4, T-5, AND T-9





And the CANADA LINE would directly serve options T-4, T-5, and T-9......just like a airport people mover (only that frequency would be slower than a airport people mover).
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