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Old May 29th, 2007, 09:25 AM   #1661
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Richmond's Progress today (sorry, no pics)

Column erection: Outside of "Also" resturant, in about 2 weeks time, it should arrive at Parker Place

Guideways: Outside of Yaohan Centre, it should cross the entrance (No. 3 Road) of Yaohan Centre by the end or beginning of next week.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 09:27 AM   #1662
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Does anyone think/know if it is likely that the line may be extended south of its planned terminus on No. 3 road in the future?
I don't think the Canada Line would be extended further South, but I do think that the City is visioning a streetcar linking Richmond City Centre and Steveston.
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Old May 30th, 2007, 10:23 PM   #1663
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New pics from the Canada Line website:

The TBM being re-assembled, in preparation for its second pass, at the Canada Line's 2nd Avenue work site.


Beginning stages of the King Edward Station platform (on the left) on the east side of Cambie Street at King Edward.


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Old May 31st, 2007, 06:23 AM   #1664
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Hi Vancouverites.

I wanted to get a comparison of numbers...between Vancouver and KL.

how is the Millenium line running these days in terms of peak hour frequency and passenger numbers (pphpd) ? What about the total number of passengers carried per day?

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Old May 31st, 2007, 07:42 AM   #1665
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Hi Vancouverites.

I wanted to get a comparison of numbers...between Vancouver and KL.

how is the Millenium line running these days in terms of peak hour frequency and passenger numbers (pphpd) ? What about the total number of passengers carried per day?

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Regarding capacity, the initial capacity of the Expo SkyTrain Line was to be 25,000 people per direction per hour, for a total of 50,000 people bi-directional per hour. The manifestation of this prescribed maximum capacity can be found in station length and the minimum headways allowed by the moving block train control software. SkyTrain is only now, apparently, in the neighbourhood of 16,000 ppd/h along the combined Expo & Millennium Line from Waterfront to Columbia due to the addition of the Mk2 cars for the Millennium Line with the next order of 32 cars by 2009. Now I emphasized "initial" earlier because the moving block software that controls the movement of trains and their maximum headways has been upgraded several times and a new system of secondary radio positioning antennas were added last year (the posts and wires on the side of the guideway just outside after the stations) to increase the precision of computer control. The result has been a significant reduction in maximum headways since SkyTrain entered service for Expo. I do not know the exact numbers but I believe the "original" SkyTrain had a maximum headway of two minutes while I have personally timed the current SkyTrain operating with as little as 45 seconds of headway during rush hour. Where these software and hardware puts the theoretical system capacity is anyone's guess but I would hazard to guess that with a sufficient trainset SkyTrain could easily double and perhaps triple the current 16,000 people per directional per hour.
I would think this also applies to the Millennium Line as well as it too, like the Expo Line, has 80 metre platforms. I don't know about pphpd on the M-Line, but I do know the peak frequency is 5-6 minutes with a daily ridership of about 70,000. The Expo Line on the other hand has a ridership of 180,000 daily.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 10:54 AM   #1666
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I don't know about pphpd on the M-Line, but I do know the peak frequency is 5-6 minutes with a daily ridership of about 70,000. The Expo Line on the other hand has a ridership of 180,000 daily.
Thanks...if anyone has more information, please let me know....I think that about 16,000 ppdph is what Id expected...

does the m-line run 4 car trainsets yet? And what is the maximum passenger capacity a 2-car ART Mark II trainset? I keep on getting confusing numbers here in KL.

KL is only running the 2 car trains. Peak frequency ought to be 2 minutes, but Ive seen the trains come every 90 seconds some days.

Assuming 250 people in a packed train and 90 second frequency (40 trains per hour), that would be 10,000 pphpd.

Pretty low compared to Vancouver....

One newspaper said that the LRT was carrying 30,000 passengers per day hahaha at a cost of RM150mn per km it's the deal of the century....hahaha

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does the m-line run 4 car trainsets yet? And what is the maximum passenger capacity a 2-car ART Mark II trainset? I keep on getting confusing numbers here in KL.
we run both 2 and 4-car Mark II trains. One MKII car can hold 130 passengers, so a two-car train has a capacity of 260 passengers and a 4-car is 520 passengers.
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More pics from the Canada Line website:

Elevated guideway construction from Bridgeport Station to the Middle Arm Bridge.






Elevated guideway construction along No. 3 Road from Sea Island Way to north of Cambie Road.


North Arm Bridge construction in the Fraser River.






Foundation and column work on Cambie Street south of S.W. Marine Drive.


Mainland vehicle bridge over Yaletown-Roundhouse Station excacation. (Please note this bridge is for vehicle traffic only. No pedestrians are permitted on the bridge.)


Waterfront Station construction on Granville Street south of Cordova Street.


The TBM being re-assembled, in preparation for its second pass, at the Canada Line's 2nd Avenue work site.




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Old June 1st, 2007, 07:54 AM   #1669
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we run both 2 and 4-car Mark II trains. One MKII car can hold 130 passengers, so a two-car train has a capacity of 260 passengers and a 4-car is 520 passengers.
thanks alot...so I guess my numbers were about correct....

260 passengers/train x 40 trains per hour is not much more than 10,000 pphpd but then they will be doubling capacity soon with the purchase of the 4 car trains....

Oh, are the 4-car mark II trains run as coupled 2-car sets or complete 4-car trainsets? Any photos or sources you can refer me to?

the problem here in KL is that the LRT is running at relatively low capacity, and so are the buses (inconsistent, blocked by traffic, etc)....but there is no transit mode being used in between buses and LRT....

Thanks for the info.

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thanks alot...so I guess my numbers were about correct....

260 passengers/train x 40 trains per hour is not much more than 10,000 pphpd but then they will be doubling capacity soon with the purchase of the 4 car trains....

Oh, are the 4-car mark II trains run as coupled 2-car sets or complete 4-car trainsets? Any photos or sources you can refer me to?

the problem here in KL is that the LRT is running at relatively low capacity, and so are the buses (inconsistent, blocked by traffic, etc)....but there is no transit mode being used in between buses and LRT....

Thanks for the info.

Cheers, m
The run it as 2 pairs of 2-car ART MK II trains. To my knowledge, the ART MK IIs do not have the C-cars that are being built for the PUTRA system. Daily ridership of PUTRA is quite possible to hit 30,000 though. Imagine what can be done with 4-car trains.

By the way, fantastic pictures of the Canada line construction.
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North Arm Bridge construction in the Fraser River.
















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http://best.bc.ca/currentIssues/cambie/


Cambie Street Bike Lanes

The reconstruction following Canada Line construction is a tremendous opportunity to transform Cambie Street from highway into a bicycle and pedestrian-friendly community street.

In November, 2006, after approving bike lanes from 49th Avenue to Kent Street, Vancouver City council directed city staff to examine the possibility of bike lanes from 49th Avenue to the north side of the Cambie Street Bridge. The staff report being presented to Council on June 12 (http://www.vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/ccl...eBikeLanes.pdf) only recommends northbound bike lanes from 49th Avenue to 29th Avenue. There would be no southbound bicycle lanes north of 49th Avenue.

The main concerns staff raised was that to create bike lanes on the remainder of Cambie Street would require the lost of parking, the loss of a travel lane or expensive road widening. From King Edward Avenue to the Cambie Street Bridge, there is not enough width to widen Cambie Street for bike lanes. To create space for bike lanes in this section, either a lane of traffic or parking will have to be reallocated. The preferred option is the reallocation of a lane of traffic as this will decrease traffic speeds and volumes creating a safer and more pleasant pedestrian and cycling environment.

Such a reallocation of road space will encourage more people to use the Canada Line and thus ensuring this $2 billion project meets is ridership and revenue goals. As well, the City’s Ecodensity initiative (http://www.vancouver-ecodensity.ca/) should also help reduce motor vehicle use and thus the need for travel lanes on Cambie Street.

Such road diets have been used successfully implemented on street around North America (http://www.walkable.org/download/rdiets.pdf), including Columbia Street in New Westminster, to improve the quality of life for shoppers and residents and increase the safety of motorists, pedestrians and cyclists. [1]

With less pollution and noise, people will be more likely to walk along Cambie Street and enjoy eating or drinking in outdoor patios. Cambie Street would feel much more like Robson Street than a freeway. This improved streetscape will encourage people to walk along Cambie Street from the Canada Line stations at Broadway and King Edward.

Such bold measures are required if we are to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and the impacts of climate change.



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Please contact Mayor Sullivan and Council regarding Cambie Street Bike Lanes.

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Further contact information can be found at: http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/councilmembers.htm

If you can, please address Vancouver City Council regarding bike lanes on Cambie at the following meeting:
Standing Committee of Council on Transportation and Traffic

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Tuesday, June 12, 2007

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For information, or to register to speak, please call Pat Boomhower, Meeting Coordinator at 604.873.7015, [email protected]



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Cambie Street Configuration

With one lane of traffic reallocated for bike lanes, the remaining three lanes would allow for either:

- One lane in each direction with centre median and left turn bays
- Two lanes in one direction and one lane of traffic in the other

Full time bike lanes would require parking be maintained all day thus there will be amply parking for the customers of Cambie Street merchants. Since parking would not be stripped during rush hour, pedestrian bulges can be constructed both to improve pedestrian safety and decrease crossing times. A center median would allow for trees or plants.
Flex Zone

One innovative option would be to create a flex zone where the parking area is at the same level as the sidewalk. Merchants can then choose if they want the space in front of their business to be used as parking or more sidewalk patio space. Vancouver City Council recently approved a flex zone for Granville Street from Smith to the Granville Bridge.[2] Trees, plants and street furniture could further enhance the street environment. While a flex zone is not required for the bike lanes, it would improve the character of the Cambie Street.

One Lane in Each Direction and a Centre Median and Left Turn Bays


One Lane in Direction and Two Lanes in the Other
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Tunnel Boring Machine Begins Second Pass

Canada Line crews are reassembling and testing the Tunnel Boring Machine (TBM) in preparation for boring the second of two side-by-side tunnels from False Creek to the Waterfront Station area. The TBM is scheduled to begin
its second underground journey this weekend and should arrive at the Waterfront Station area in the spring of 2008.

The TBM will begin boring the second tunnel at the 2nd Avenue False Creek Site and travel north under False Creek to Yaletown-Roundhouse Station, to Vancouver City Centre Station and complete its journey at the TBM exit area
just south of Waterfront Station in Vancouver. For a route map and photos of the TBM completing the first tunnel, please visit the Canada Line web site at
www.canadaline.ca.

Underground Activity

Tunnel boring activity is scheduled to occur 24-hours a day, seven days a week, until the TBM has reached the exit area at Granville Street and W. Pender Street. There will be periods of time where the TBM cannot stop its underground operation, such as when it passes through the open trenches
at each downtown station. This activity may cause some intermittent noise above ground, and crews will minimize any inconvenience as much as possible. Similarly to boring the first tunnel, ground vibration should not be experienced.

Once the TBM has completed the second tunnel and reaches its final destination, crews will remove the TBM using large cranes and heavy equipment. As with the first tunnel, crews will be required to temporarily close
W. Pender Street at Granville Street to remove the TBM from the exit shaft. More information about this will be available prior to the TBM reaching its destination.

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Thanks!

King Edward Station seems to be progressing nicely.
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What do you suppose is going on here?

I remember reading some caption on a similar photo on flickr saying that the 2nd tunnel will be a few feet lower than the first. I can't imagine why they would do this, and I'm hoping the photographer was mistaken.
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I can't see why the second tunnel would be lower than the first - it'll have a centre platform, so both tracks would have to be at the same elevation. This cross section shows the foundations being even.

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Posted by officedweller, new pics of the North Arm Brdige from the Canada Line site:

Looking South at North Arm Bridge. The Pier Numbering, starting with the closest one, are N3, N2, Tower N1, Tower S1, S2 and S3


Pier Tower N1 on the end of the extended Mitchell Island


Pier Tower S1 and Piers S2 & S3



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