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Old July 18th, 2007, 05:11 AM   #1701
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- Cambie Village section will be completed and repaved before Christmas
- 52% of the entire Canada Line project has been complete
- because they know what kind of rock and soil conditions they have to bore through under False Creek, the tunnel boring machine has a modified cutting head. As a result, the 5-km bored tunnel should be completed faster, ahead of schedule.
- the first trains will arrive in Vancouver in December 2007
- overall, the line is currently ahead of schedule for opening on November 29, 2009
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Old July 18th, 2007, 09:26 PM   #1702
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Canada Line: Going deep beneath the surface

Denise Ryan, Vancouver Sun
Published: Tuesday, July 17, 2007

Canada Line construction may have cored and split this city, driven businesses from the Cambie village and made commuting a living hell, but Steve Crombie, vice-president of public affairs for InTransitBC, is anxious to show another side of the story.

Fourteen metres below ground at the bottom of a spiderweb of scaffolding, in the tunnel entry pit, is a small shrine.

A roughly constructed wooden box filled with faded plastic flowers and a statue of a saint sit crookedly on top of an electrical box. Saint Barbara, says Andrea Ciamei, project manager of tunneling, is the patron saint of miners.
"We bring her with us every place we go," says Ciamei in a heavy Italian accent.

Ciamei is in charge of a crew of about 50 so-called "tunnel rats," international workers who travel with him from country to country, job to job.

Their specialty is the dangerous work of building the tunnels many will use but few will ever see. Saint Barbara, says Ciamei, brings good luck, protection and safety.

It's a small sign that something magic, something other than logic, precision and expert engineering may be at work here.

Indeed, what is happening below the frustrating maze of fencing and Jersey barriers that keep our cars snarled up in traffic, is a tidy, clockwork operation.
At the entry pit, temporary track is already in place. Trains of coupled boxcars pull into circular tunnels. They carry precast cement segments; each train carries six sections that make one segment. Twenty-four hours a day, the trains move these segments into the earth.

As the tunnel-boring machine pushes forward at the head of the tunnel, the muck - soil and water - is pushed out behind it onto a screw conveyer that brings it to a belt, and so out of the tunnel.

Approximately 75,000 cubic metres of muck has been removed so far. The precast segments are erected inside a metal shield which is then removed.
Forty-six metres below False Creek, the tunnel is clean and neat, a kind of peaceful place, wending unevenly below the waterway, following the natural curves of the earth.

The side-by-side tunnels have fire doors every 46 metres. In case of emergency, riders will be able to hop from a smoke-filled tunnel to a separately ventilated exit route.

Roger Woodhead, technical director and the engineer behind much of the construction, is obviously proud of how things are coming along. But, he admits with a laugh, "Sometimes I have nightmares about it."

Construction presented some special challenges. Bored tunnels must be deeper below ground; cut-and cover allows tunnels to be dug closer to the surface, he explains.

"People feel safer closer to the surface."

Around the waterways, archeological monitors had to be present to ensure no first nations sites were disturbed (they weren't); layers of "glacial till," dumped here millions of years ago, created a set of variable substances that had to be dealt with in different ways.

Farther up the line, in Richmond, where elevated guideways soar over the Arthur Laing Bridge, the engineering problems were different. Special piles with cement filled "bulbs" at their base were designed to withstand earthquake motion.

"The guideways may move in the event of an earthquake, but they won't fall over," says Woodhead. Another innovation is the cable-stayed bridge over the north arm of the Fraser River - the only bridge of its kind in North America.
"In order to build this bridge," explains Crombie, "we had to keep the towers low due to air traffic, and wide apart because it's an active waterway."

The solution was to design a unique span that uses both post tension and cables. But what Crombie and his team may be most proud of is that the controversial cut-and-cover construction on Cambie is months ahead of schedule.

The Cambie section's original completion date had been April 2008; that has now been pushed up to December.

"In and out in under a year," says Crombie. "Restoration has already begun."
It's good news for commuters and businesses along Cambie, and it's the kind of good news that matters to Crombie and his team who, like the rest of us, are still having a few problems getting to work each day.

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For the Global BC News Hour story video, click the link below and find "Canada Line tunnel tour".

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Old July 26th, 2007, 10:07 AM   #1703
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From the Canada Line website:

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At the top of this photo you can see the steel support, beam then below it the precast concrete tunnel liner, followed by the grout layer used to fill the gap left by the TBM, and finally the sandstone that we are digging out to form the sump.


In the distance you can see where Vancouver City Centre Station will be located. Above us is an underground cross passage connecting the Stores on each side of Granville. This is a low spot in the tunnel as after ducking under the cross passage we need to climb back up to get over the SkyTrain tunnel at Dunsmuir. You can see a steel frame around where we need to remove the tunnel concrete to dig the sump that will collect any water entering the tunnel. A pump will be located in the sump to remove the water.
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Old July 27th, 2007, 11:55 PM   #1704
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Pictures of the Canada Line tours on Monday from Canadaline.ca's photo gallery:



King Edward Station










Aerial of Vancouver City Centre Station http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=rec&...ncouver&m=text
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Someone got into the cut and cover trench and sprayed graffiti
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North Fraser Bridge
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Old July 30th, 2007, 12:21 AM   #1705
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Took this yesterday. Foundations are beginning to form on the east track at City Centre Station.
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Old August 1st, 2007, 01:48 AM   #1706
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Will they use the same white Bombardier trains for this line?
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Old August 1st, 2007, 02:02 AM   #1707
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Will they use the same white Bombardier trains for this line?
Nope, the Bombardier trains SkyTrain uses are linear propulsion. The Canada Line trains will be made by Rotem, part of Hyundai, in South Korea and they will be standard subway technology, third rail.
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Old August 1st, 2007, 02:16 AM   #1708
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Do you have any pictures of the new train?
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Old August 1st, 2007, 04:38 AM   #1709
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Do you have any pictures of the new train?
Information, diagrams, and renderings on all of the stations and bridges and the new trains have been posted in the first post of this topic.
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Sorry, didn't notice it. But why didn't they ordered from Bombardier?
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I'm sure because Rotem put in a better bid. Anyway the new cars are shorter and wider than the Bombardier MKII cars. The exterior will also be made of stainless steel.
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Old August 1st, 2007, 07:26 AM   #1712
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Sorry, didn't notice it. But why didn't they ordered from Bombardier?
no worries.

They said the Rotem trains were flexible with other train models and I'm guessing they were cheaper than the Bombardier bid.
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The April 2007 - June 2007 Quarterly Report has been posted on the Canada Line site. A bit out of date already, but see section 4.3 for approved changes to the project.

Looks like access from Vancouver City Centre Station to both Pacific Centre Mall and Vancouver Centre Mall are confirmed.

Items 31 and 32 suggest Capstan Station is being accelerated.

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semi-permanent married pair to support dynamic factory testing. The first shipment of four trains is expected to arrive
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Old August 4th, 2007, 12:46 AM   #1714
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Some new information:

- Vancouver City Centre Station: Architectural design continued based on the advice received from City of Vancouver design workshops in January of this year. The concept plan for the connection to Vancouver Centre Mall which was
identified late in the last quarter has been agreed by all parties and design is now proceeding on the basis of the concourse level connections to both Pacific Centre and Vancouver Centre Malls.

- Full scale vehicle production is underway and initial testing has begun. The first fully outfitted train has been coupled into a semi-permanent married pair to support dynamic factory testing. The first shipment of four trains is expected to arrive in Vancouver in December 2007.

- The tunnel boring machine (TBM) began the second tunnel (inbound) drive in June 2007; the first 100m was completed on schedule.

- Cut- and-cover tunnel construction on Cambie Street is proceeding in all areas between 2nd and 64th Avenues. 3,506m of tunnel have been completed compared to the originally scheduled 3,470m. It is anticipated that cut and-
cover tunnel work will be complete well ahead of schedule.

- The design for the reinstatement of Cambie Street is almost complete. Road paving work has begun with the base lift of asphalt completed from 29th to 33rd and 59th to 63rd Avenues. Backfilling, curb, and gutter restoration
is progressing on several fronts.

- Production at the precast yard (Kent Avenue and Fraser Street) is well ahead of schedule. Substructure and superstructure work is now either on schedule or slightly ahead of schedule.


The first cables being installed onto the North Arm Bridge





From Tafyrn, more recent pictures of the Canada Line in the past week:


Excavation of Broadway-City Hall Station








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- Vancouver City Centre Station: Architectural design continued based on the advice received from City of Vancouver design workshops in January of this year. The concept plan for the connection to Vancouver Centre Mall which was
identified late in the last quarter has been agreed by all parties and design is now proceeding on the basis of the concourse level connections to both Pacific Centre and Vancouver Centre Malls.
Instead of making a connection to Vancouver Center Mall (which is not a very busy mall; I have been there maybe three times in the last 20 years) they should have put that money and effort into building the entrance at Granville and Robson. Of course all three would have been best.

I wonder if it will take them 20 years to build an entrance there, just like it took 20 years before they built the Dunsmuir entrance at Granville station.
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Instead of making a connection to Vancouver Center Mall (which is not a very busy mall; I have been there maybe three times in the last 20 years) they should have put that money and effort into building the entrance at Granville and Robson. Of course all three would have been best.

I wonder if it will take them 20 years to build an entrance there, just like it took 20 years before they built the Dunsmuir entrance at Granville station.
I'm not sure but I think Cadillac Fairview (Pacific Centre's owners) are paying for the mall entrance, which would bring more people to the mall.

And I think the city requested that a knockout panel be built on the south end of the station so that a future Robson Street entrance could be built. I'd love to see the station renamed Robson Station. How cool would that sound?
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Deleted upon the request of InTransitBC/Canada Line Project Office.
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JUST FOUND THIS......THE CANADA LINE TRAIN EXTERIOR

The concept is really nice, but why only the front? Looks horrible if they don't paint the entire train.
Looks pretty decent, now the next question would be, are they going to continue to use the "CANADA LINE" name and that HORRIBLE font, or is it going to be "SkyTrain Canada Line"?
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The concept is really nice, but why only the front? Looks horrible if they don't paint the entire train.
I agree... They should paint the entire thing.
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today i heard on the new station announcement on trains heading towards broadway,
now they say it as :
"The next station is: Broadway; Transferpoint to minnelium line yada yada yada.."
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