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Old August 5th, 2007, 05:45 AM   #1721
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I'm not sure but I think Cadillac Fairview (Pacific Centre's owners) are paying for the mall entrance, which would bring more people to the mall.

And I think the city requested that a knockout panel be built on the south end of the station so that a future Robson Street entrance could be built. I'd love to see the station renamed Robson Station. How cool would that sound?
Locals would understand it

but if the tourists are on it - Vancouver City Centre makes more sense
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this line looks incredible, i hope it rocks!
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Old August 10th, 2007, 05:39 AM   #1723
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Will there technically be an underground connection between Vancouver City Centre station and Granville station?

Will the west exit be connected to Pacific Center Mall below gound?
And, is Vancouver Centre Mall currently connected underground to the Bay, or Pacific Center Mall creating a connection to Granville station that way?
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Old August 10th, 2007, 07:08 AM   #1724
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Will there technically be an underground connection between Vancouver City Centre station and Granville station?

Will the west exit be connected to Pacific Center Mall below gound?
And, is Vancouver Centre Mall currently connected underground to the Bay, or Pacific Center Mall creating a connection to Granville station that way?
No, there won't be a direct underground connection between Vancouver City Centre Station and Granville Station but there will be a connection I believe to Granville Station via Vancouver Centre Mall from the Vancouver City Centre Station concourse.

And yes, there will be a connection to Pacific Centre below ground from the station concourse.

Look at the first page of this topic for diagrams of Vancouver City Centre Station.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 07:30 AM   #1725
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No, there won't be a direct underground connection between Vancouver City Centre Station and Granville Station but there will be a connection I believe to Granville Station via Vancouver Centre Mall from the Vancouver City Centre Station concourse.

And yes, there will be a connection to Pacific Centre below ground from the station concourse.

Look at the first page of this topic for diagrams of Vancouver City Centre Station.

Ah, yes, thank you. Looks like Granville station will be accessible through either Pacific Center Mall or Vancouver Center Mall. I wonder if there will be official Translink signage from Vancouver Center St. directing to Granville St. and vice versa, even though they would only be accessible to each other via private property ie, the two malls, and the Bay.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 07:38 AM   #1726
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Ah, yes, thank you. Looks like Granville station will be accessible through either Pacific Center Mall or Vancouver Center Mall. I wonder if there will be official Translink signage from Vancouver Center St. directing to Granville St. and vice versa, even though they would only be accessible to each other via private property ie, the two malls, and the Bay.
I'd think the malls would encourage that, afterall more pedestrians are always a good thing for them.
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Old August 11th, 2007, 02:55 AM   #1727
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New pics at the Canada Line website:

North Arm Bridge:

Top of pier S1 pylon looking south with the Operation and Maintenance Centre in the distance on the right side


Top of pier S1 pylon looking north with Cambie Street in the distance


On the bridge deck looking North at Pier S1 pylon


North Arm Bridge construction.


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Old August 13th, 2007, 06:05 AM   #1728
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It occurs to me that when the SkyTrain Canada Line is complete we will have two transit-only bridges in operation, with the first being the SkyBridge Fraser river crossing at New Westminster. While the North Arm bridge (I really hope we give it the dignity of a proper name) for the SkyTrain Canada Line won't break any records for length the way SkyBridge did, could it begin to put Metro Vancouver in the running for the most transit-only bridges in North America?

For what it's worth, I know the North Arm Bridge will have bicycle/pedestrian access and thus will technically not be transit-only, yet the fact that it excludes vehicles or heavy rail basically makes it so.
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There would be 3 - no record breaker, but the Middle Arm Bridge as well.

I'll bet Chicago or another City like Tokyo has many more than 3 (i.e. shorter bridges over rivers).
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Old August 20th, 2007, 12:33 AM   #1732
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what will the operating hours be?

Will it be like the existing lines?

ie stop around 12:30 am/1:30 am weekends?

they really should extend all service to at least 2:30
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Old August 20th, 2007, 01:54 AM   #1733
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what will the operating hours be?

Will it be like the existing lines?

ie stop around 12:30 am/1:30 am weekends?

they really should extend all service to at least 2:30
I think it's the same as SkyTrain.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 02:11 AM   #1734
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ah

sucks if you planned on using the train after your plane arrives late
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sucks if you planned on using the train after your plane arrives late
Not only that but with the current train schedule plan, you'd have to wait 20 minutes for a train late at night at YVR and Richmond.
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Ok, here is a question: Are some of the stations going to have sloped platforms?

I was looking at King Ed, Oakridge, 49th and Marine drive station drawings at the beginning of this thread and they all clearly slope. King Ed with a downslope to the north and the other three with a downslope to the south just like the profile of the land.
When you look at the Richmond Stations they are all perfectly flat, just like Richmond is.
I don't think it would be an uploading or scanning issue with the Vancouver drawings because why would the Richmond drawings show the stations to be flat and the Vancouver ones not? Too much of a coincidence.
What do you guys think?
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Ok, here is a question: Are some of the stations going to have sloped platforms?

I was looking at King Ed, Oakridge, 49th and Marine drive station drawings at the beginning of this thread and they all clearly slope. King Ed with a downslope to the north and the other three with a downslope to the south just like the profile of the land.
When you look at the Richmond Stations they are all perfectly flat, just like Richmond is.
I don't think it would be an uploading or scanning issue with the Vancouver drawings because why would the Richmond drawings show the stations to be flat and the Vancouver ones not? Too much of a coincidence.
What do you guys think?
Maybe they ran out of money to build non-sloped platforms? I think they are sloped, even Marine Drive Station.

As long as the slope isn't enough to send a baby carriage rolling and onto the tracks in front of an incoming train.....
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Maybe they ran out of money to build non-sloped platforms? I think they are sloped, even Marine Drive Station.

As long as the slope isn't enough to send a baby carriage rolling and onto the tracks in front of an incoming train.....
I went to the information office on 16th ave today to ask about the slope. I was surprised to find a person that actually had some in depth knowledge (my previous inquiries always went unanswered).
Anyway, according to the representative, a maximum slope of 1% is allowable for stations. That would translate to a 40cm elevation change over the length of a 40 meter platform. To me, any slope would be too much, in fact, I've never seen or heard of sloped platforms. (other than funiculars and cogways etc.)
What I could not get a straight answer on was whether or not some stations WILL actually have sloped platforms. He said no, but then why the allowance? A 1% slope could not account for construction tolerance, it would be way too much.
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Ok, here is a question: Are some of the stations going to have sloped platforms?

I was looking at King Ed, Oakridge, 49th and Marine drive station drawings at the beginning of this thread and they all clearly slope. King Ed with a downslope to the north and the other three with a downslope to the south just like the profile of the land.
When you look at the Richmond Stations they are all perfectly flat, just like Richmond is.
I don't think it would be an uploading or scanning issue with the Vancouver drawings because why would the Richmond drawings show the stations to be flat and the Vancouver ones not? Too much of a coincidence.
What do you guys think?

I noticed that too - I think they will be sloped to make up for the tight parameters of having the line close to the surface. My guess is that every little bit helps in reducing the grade.

BTW - anyone notice that the profile for the portal isn't quite like the renderings?

Compare this pic from Tafryn with the rendering - the as-built looks bulkier (and with a steeper grade)




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Old August 22nd, 2007, 02:14 AM   #1740
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New pics from the Canada Line website:

Track work on Sea Island. Third rail installed!







Removal (?) of preload fill for the Bridgepaort Station parkade:



Elevated guideway on No. 3 Rd.:




And from Jim's Photos on the Canada Line website of the area north of King Edward Ave.

http://www.canadaline.ca/gallery.asp...to=1449#larger









This is the same as the first pic above, but with the upper formworks added:


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