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Old March 30th, 2006, 05:42 PM   #101
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^I don't think so, this seems to be the old design.
Which seems much better than the current one, first of all, it was taller.
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Old March 30th, 2006, 05:52 PM   #102
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yep agreed, the rendering is not reliable as for Granite tower.
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Old March 30th, 2006, 05:57 PM   #103
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So Granite is still showed pretty tall, will we have a surprise about it?
Perhaps! The surprise to see it shorter in reality than on the renderings...
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Old March 31st, 2006, 09:14 AM   #104
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Why isn't La Défense not connected to the TGV network ??
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Old March 31st, 2006, 09:18 AM   #105
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Why isn't La Défense not connected to the TGV network ??
I thought it was a fairly easy ride from any station in which the TGV calls at on either the metro or the RER to La Defense. So, perhaps a dedicated station is not necessary?

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Old April 1st, 2006, 11:50 PM   #106
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I thought it was a fairly easy ride from any station in which the TGV calls at on either the metro or the RER to La Defense. So, perhaps a dedicated station is not necessary?


Very interesting questions.

Concerning mid-fast public transport, La Défense is for the moment connected to the RER (A) and the subway (line 1) (towards Paris), and in a lesser extent to the tramway (towards the suburbs).

Right now, and of course more than ever with the "La Defense 2015" project, it will be necessary to connect this district to other transportations.

Here is a picture of public transport in La Defense.
red: RER A
violet: Tramway
green: train
yellow: subway line 1

pink: project for RER E, "Eole", directly connected to Paris.


picture taken on EPAD's document about La Défense 2015.

This tunnel would also be connected to TGV-network.
A TGV-station was projected in the nineties and abandonned. This connection would relaunch this project, maybe for the 2020's.

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Old April 2nd, 2006, 03:09 AM   #107
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I'm personally convinced that sooner or later a station able to host long distance high-speed trains will have to be created in La Défense. I don't have the exact figures in front of my eyes, but the large majority of high speed trains customers are professionals, and the trains have to take account of this in order to become more competitive.

It's rather obvious that Thalys and Eurostar coming at La Défense would be very profitable lines, however things are not so simple. Indeed, when we check a map, we see there's already an SNCF station under La Défense served with rail tracks, but all platforms from that station are already used, and the tracks currently built are already extremely busy due to the heavy suburban network from Saint-Lazare and are not even close to be able to sustain an additional long distance rail trafic. Furthermore, La Défense is already a terminal station from one SNCF suburban line. As such, investments would have to be massive in order to see long distance rails being welcomed at La Défense.

This being said, the EPAD hasn't completely abandonned this idea... they've simply postponed it, the project Défense 2015 being judged, currently more prioritary. And I think they were certainly right.
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Old April 5th, 2006, 12:04 PM   #108
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=jDR5FTCQ71E .............
i found this video..............
if anyone already posted, sorry.............
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Old April 5th, 2006, 12:28 PM   #109
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Amazing Paris.!!!
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Old June 6th, 2006, 10:59 PM   #110
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Have anyone news about this project?
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Old June 6th, 2006, 11:51 PM   #111
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Fresh news is likely to be given on June 16th.
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Old June 7th, 2006, 01:32 AM   #112
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I am (hopefully) going to Paris in a few weeks so I can take photos of existing buildings and construction in La Defense!
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Old June 7th, 2006, 11:59 AM   #113
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thank you for the information
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Old June 7th, 2006, 02:56 PM   #114
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I love Paris very much, its skykine is much more beautiful, organized than the London's.
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Old June 7th, 2006, 03:10 PM   #115
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I think that also
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Old June 7th, 2006, 04:35 PM   #116
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Old June 7th, 2006, 05:26 PM   #117
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I love Paris very much, its skykine is much more beautiful, organized than the London's.
I disagree. Plus at the moment it is lacking the height of London. And in the future it will most likely lack the high design quality of both Londonand Moscow. There will be very little in europe outside of Moscow that can compete with the shard, Bishopsgate, Leadenhall etc... at least from what I have seen so far.
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Old June 7th, 2006, 05:34 PM   #118
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oh god please, not again
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Old June 7th, 2006, 07:04 PM   #119
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Old June 7th, 2006, 07:10 PM   #120
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LOL the tallest tower in la defence is only 202m!

London has 3 taller in CW

i dont like la defence its to messy and most of the buildings look rubbish, and what is with that square thing?
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