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Old March 16th, 2006, 05:45 PM   #1
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DUBAI: Burj Dubai (Part 13)

You can find Part Twelve here.


Burj Dubai


Scheduled for completion: December 31, 2008


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March 15, 2006

You should click twice to see the biggest possible.









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Thread in UAE section here.

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http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com

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Old March 16th, 2006, 06:13 PM   #2
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That's not the latest render. Here's the newest one:




Also the previous thread can be found here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...80#post7671580
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Old March 16th, 2006, 07:19 PM   #3
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Malec, those renders are exactly the same and so are those links.
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Old March 16th, 2006, 07:34 PM   #4
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He edited his post and changed the render. It was the old silver one
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Old March 16th, 2006, 08:26 PM   #5
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Old March 16th, 2006, 11:59 PM   #6
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The 3-winged tripod structure is strikingly similar to that of the CN Tower. Was the CN Tower's structure influential in designing the Burj Dubai...or is this the ideal known formula for building tall?
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Old March 17th, 2006, 01:10 AM   #7
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This tower is a bull shit, I don't like it at all, it looks so stupid and shows me just that the
general aim of the authors of the building to get a highrise and to become the world's tower

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Old March 17th, 2006, 01:10 AM   #8
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The reason for the shape is because it's based on a flower of some sort. Others will know more about this
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Old March 17th, 2006, 05:29 AM   #9
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This tower is a bull shit, I don't like it at, it looks so stupid and shows me just that the
general aim of the authors of the building to get a highrise and to become the world's tower
You have a point Skyman this tower does look crap, too futuristic for my likes and built souly to become worlds tallest, it's just a stupid skinny peice of crap with a bunch of stupid little roof's everywhere...
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Old March 17th, 2006, 06:30 AM   #10
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i bet you won't be saying that when you're in the observation deck
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Old March 17th, 2006, 07:10 AM   #11
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So its designed to be the world's tallest tower... why do people have problems with that?
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Old March 17th, 2006, 07:51 AM   #12
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The same reason why alot of people dislike Taipei 101. The Burj isn't what I would call a lovely building. But it isn't ugly. It's plain in design but it's tall.
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The design is stunning and hides nothing but a reach to the sky. I actually like it more than flat-roofed skyscrapers that look as if the architect was pretending as if they are designing some apartment building (oh, but it just happens to be the world's tallest /sarc). For the world's tallest, self-conscious spires are a positive thing. Slimness is also positive-- would you rather the world's tallest be built like that hideous thing going up in Mecca? Of course not. A building distinguished by its height should also be defined by it architectually-- and that's what the design does here. Of course, no matter how many renders you do you won't know what it really looks like until its done.

What worries me the most-- how are they going to protect this baby from terrorism (or some suicidal American pilot looking for revenge for 9/11)? Dubai is a huge investment for such a volatile region...

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Old March 17th, 2006, 08:20 AM   #14
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Well, we'll have to wait and see how things change from conception to reality. I originally had my thoughts about T101 but now find the building to look nice with the right angles. Is it really just the sterile post-modernism that people don't seem to like, or moreso that much of this lovely tower is expressed in plan as opposed to elevation? Although I love tons of stuff about this tower *coughseverythingcoughs*, that's just how I've come to understand it. Surely there is nothing wrong with subjective thought, as it's impossible to please all with a singular piece of art. I'd still like to wait to see how it rises, is shaped, and finished though before making a final judgement but again there's nothing wrong with stating an opinion.

City, I've had some thoughts about that (although the reverse attack idea is something I've not heard before). I would imagine that SOM is taking quite a few steps to help protect this tower from unfortunate events but one has to realize that if you want a building to protect you from everything, it might as well be a nuclear fallout bunker extremely deep underground. It surely can't be something normal people would or could live and work in. Barring that, new fire suppresion systems, very thick concrete walls, more points of egress, etc. appear to be accounted for. I mean, surely it's not perfect, but it seems like the tower's well thought out, otherwise it'd fail some test or another or never get built. Well, scratch that, because that's not the point of building tall buildings anyway. All it means is the risk is greater for something as the WTB, and so preventative measures are increased in proportion.

I could see this really getting into a long post or discussion and although granted, it would be interesting to learn how BD is taking the aftermath of 9/11 into account, I don't want to create nor encourage any hostility or disparity because of simple discussion on a forum like this.

If anyone would however, have some construction insight, it might make for a bit of neat discussion until the next round of updates.

I've heard some ideas that the very center of the core is a triangular alcove that reaches through the whole center of the tower... is this true?

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Old March 17th, 2006, 09:09 AM   #15
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The reason for the shape is because it's based on a flower of some sort. Others will know more about this
Skidmore & Co came up with that after the design was made. The tower was designed for height alone.
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Old March 17th, 2006, 09:50 AM   #16
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wow so tall. world's tallest in 2009?
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Old March 17th, 2006, 09:53 AM   #17
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Well, we'll have to wait and see how things change from conception to reality. I originally had my thoughts about T101 but now find the building to look nice with the right angles. Is it really just the sterile post-modernism that people don't seem to like, or moreso that much of this lovely tower is expressed in plan as opposed to elevation? Although I love tons of stuff about this tower *coughseverythingcoughs*, that's just how I've come to understand it. Surely there is nothing wrong with subjective thought, as it's impossible to please all with a singular piece of art. I'd still like to wait to see how it rises, is shaped, and finished though before making a final judgement but again there's nothing wrong with stating an opinion.

City, I've had some thoughts about that (although the reverse attack idea is something I've not heard before). I would imagine that SOM is taking quite a few steps to help protect this tower from unfortunate events but one has to realize that if you want a building to protect you from everything, it might as well be a nuclear fallout bunker extremely deep underground. It surely can't be something normal people would or could live and work in. Barring that, new fire suppresion systems, very thick concrete walls, more points of egress, etc. appear to be accounted for. I mean, surely it's not perfect, but it seems like the tower's well thought out, otherwise it'd fail some test or another or never get built. Well, scratch that, because that's not the point of building tall buildings anyway. All it means is the risk is greater for something as the WTB, and so preventative measures are increased in proportion.

I could see this really getting into a long post or discussion and although granted, it would be interesting to learn how BD is taking the aftermath of 9/11 into account, I don't want to create nor encourage any hostility or disparity because of simple discussion on a forum like this.

If anyone would however, have some construction insight, it might make for a bit of neat discussion until the next round of updates.

I've heard some ideas that the very center of the core is a triangular alcove that reaches through the whole center of the tower... is this true?
One big bomb will take this down. Planes no, 90.0% of buildings can take a plane. Threat is also smaller, osuma want's middle east development.
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Old March 17th, 2006, 10:30 AM   #18
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wow so many haters here.
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Old March 17th, 2006, 10:43 AM   #19
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You have a point Skyman this tower does look crap, too futuristic for my likes and built souly to become worlds tallest, it's just a stupid skinny peice of crap with a bunch of stupid little roof's everywhere...


I have to agree that I didn't like the building because it was so skinny but I'll have to wait and see the finished product. I know that as it grows it will keep looking better and better.

From what I've seen, renders don't ever capture the full beauty of a building. I used to think the Nina tower was ugly until I saw pictures of the real thing almost finished.

I think they chose a good design and it should get respect for being the first to break some true height barriers. I know it seems skinny but with the finished product it might look just right. We'll just wait and see. If they decided to cancel the Burj Dubai project and dismantle it now, I think everyone on this forum would be really dissapointed. Deep down we all love and appreciate this building.
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Skidmore & Co came up with that after the design was made. The tower was designed for height alone.
And I'm sure you know better than Adrian Smith.
He stated that he based the 3-wing shape on a desert flower.

Guys, that render doesn't actually have any perspective so if you were looking from the bottom up then the top wouldn't look so skinny. I have to say I liked the previous version (a lot of people didn't because the spire looked unfinished) because it was more organic looking. This version probably looks better when standing underneath or within lets say, 1km distance from it.
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