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Old September 21st, 2014, 06:15 PM   #1
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Grasshoppers Zurich Stadium Competition!

The goal of this competition is to create a new stadium for Grasshoppers Zurich!



1. Minimum capacity: 18.000.
Maximum capacity: 25.000.
2. Standing allowed in correlation with Swiss regulations.
3. Fans of visiting team should have a special sector with at least 5% of total capacity.
4. Stadium should include all of the following
- Press and media seats (minimum 100, 50 with desks)
- Business seats (minimum 500 seats).
- Wheelchair spaces (minimum 30)
- VIP boxes (minimum 150 VIP seats,30 for visiting team)
- Commentary positions (minimum 5)
- TV Studio (2, at least 1 with a view of the pitch)
- At least a 6 square meters space for a least 2 cameras
5. It should include at least 300 parking places for cars and 4 for coaches.
6. It must fit on the specified plot.
7. It should met standards for UEFA Category 3 stadiums.
8. You must provide pics of any facility you mention to have (Number of pics is UNLIMITED)

Deadline: January 1st (can be changed)

Voting: Poll thread on the forum. Send me your presentations

Good luck

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Plot:

http://www.speedyshare.com/6AXHv/zurich2.skp

Grasshoppers Zurich:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grassho...ub_Z%C3%BCrich

Documentation:
http://www.raithrovers.net/files/Gui...rtsGrounds.pdf
http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles/...9_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Category 3 requirements:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_stadium_categories

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Old September 21st, 2014, 06:20 PM   #2
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is the plot not too small? it look so for me. check the soccer field on the left side of the picture in relation of the designed plot...
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Old September 21st, 2014, 06:23 PM   #3
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I believe this is spot where the old stadium 'Hardturm' used to be.
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Old September 21st, 2014, 08:15 PM   #4
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I believe this is spot where the old stadium 'Hardturm' used to be.
But that was an old stadium and a bigger one hardly fit into this plot. Even at the Aarau competition we had larger area, that's insane. Pls find another option. Thanks.
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Old September 21st, 2014, 08:20 PM   #5
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What about this? Maybe if we cut it a little (the bottom triangle).
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Old September 21st, 2014, 08:35 PM   #6
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That's better. I don't need the whole, just a smaller part of it, 200*150 m should be enough, right?
But I think none of these details have to be fixed, we don't have to decide immediately. Lets discuss everythink, the deadline will be in next year anyway. We're not in a hurry.
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Old September 21st, 2014, 09:11 PM   #7
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I would stick with the first plot because that's the space that will be used for the stadium in real life.

Few years ago there was competition using this plot IRL. They managed to fit 20K stadium easily.

Check this out: https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content...n_Zuerich.html

And here is another thought. As you can see in link above and in this pic:



every proposed stadium was shown in exactly the same way.
I think we should do the same so we can actually compare DESIGNS of our stadiums.

Look at this:



Wouldn't it be great if everybody make stadium presentation similiar to this so it would be easier to compare?

I'm not forcing anything. I know some of you love to spend hours working on a details like handrails and wheelchair spaces And that's ok.
I just think that going the way I suggested would force us to focus more on DESIGN of the stadium. Just a thought.

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Old September 21st, 2014, 09:36 PM   #8
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I'm not forcing anything. I know some of you love to spend hours working on a details like handrails and wheelchair spaces And that's ok.
I just think that going the way I suggested would force us to focus more on DESIGN of the stadium. Just a thought.
Your argument is valid. I need a .skp file with the plot to see what can I build there.
(I would make that file but in SU8 the add location function fails every time, thanks to google by changing the maps regularly).
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Old September 21st, 2014, 09:43 PM   #9
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Interesting, but I think we should proceed making the way we do.
Colours, details etc.
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Old September 21st, 2014, 09:50 PM   #10
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I liked your post because you said the first polot is better, because it is. It is almost in the city center and close to the club training facilities. It is in no way small, it is big enough to fit a 30k stadium, so 18-25 should fit very well.
These are the approximate dimensions of the plot:



Still, I dont think it is a good idea about presenting the stadium in that way. I usually spend much more time on post processing than on modelling the stadium and I want that to be seen.

and Stefan, you opened the thread too early, we should've discussed more stuff about this. As Ressy said we are in no hurry. The deadline is too short, you should've put it on March 1st or atleast February.

I can make the stadium plot in sketchup if you want

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here is the plot
http://speedy.sh/6AXHv/zurich2.skp

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Old September 21st, 2014, 10:01 PM   #11
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Can't we have two plots then?

I made the first plot, the one that I posted.

PLOT
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Old September 21st, 2014, 10:15 PM   #12
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Having two plots is in no way realistic and it makes the comparing much more difficult.
Last time when you had two choose from a several plots, few people didnt even follow plot regulations. And I dont see how you can make your stadium first and then just draw the plot around it.

How do you know its gonna fit?
How do you know it suits the surroundings?
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Old September 21st, 2014, 10:23 PM   #13
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Having two plots is in no way realistic and it makes the comparing much more difficult.
Last time when you had two choose from a several plots, few people didnt even follow plot regulations. And I dont see how you can make your stadium first and then just draw the plot around it.

How do you know its gonna fit?
How do you know it suits the surroundings?
Yeah maybe you're right.

The plot needs to be big enough for a 16-22K stadium. My stadium will atleast hold 20K and if that doesn't fit the plot why would we do a stadium competition that needs to hold over 15K?
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Old September 21st, 2014, 10:26 PM   #14
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I have also tested the plot on my stadium so it fits perfectly
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Old September 21st, 2014, 11:06 PM   #15
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So I guess we are sticking to the first plot?

By the way, deadline initially moved to 1st of february, we will if we need more. If you have any details or I missed something you can always discuss
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Old September 21st, 2014, 11:14 PM   #16
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Put the plot link in the first post
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Old September 22nd, 2014, 05:44 AM   #17
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hey guys im gonna be using ETSman plot because the other plot. i cant get it to open or to use
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Old September 22nd, 2014, 08:25 AM   #18
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hey guys im gonna be using ETSman plot because the other plot. i cant get it to open or to use
You can't, you have to use the one everyone is using. To open it you must rename it from 'skb' to 'skp'.
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Old September 22nd, 2014, 11:37 AM   #19
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CAn't you post the plot in .skp format?
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Old September 22nd, 2014, 11:55 AM   #20
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Guys, come on... is this really so hard to make a plot by yourself?
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