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Old June 17th, 2011, 11:41 PM   #2761
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and what about Phare ?
La Défense Authority sold the land to the developer for the Tour Phare last Wednesday.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 12:04 AM   #2762
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La Défense Authority sold the land to the developer for the Tour Phare last Wednesday.
hum hum...i think you missed the point of my comment...it was an answer to Axelferis' opinion that La defense needs a "shard like mega project"...then i asked him : what about Phare ?...
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Old June 18th, 2011, 12:22 AM   #2763
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hum hum...i think you missed the point of my comment...
Ah, I see. But then it's good to let people know that the land was sold to the developer last Wednesday anyway.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 11:36 AM   #2764
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Phare is art. It is not only a skyscraper.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 05:16 PM   #2765
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i agree

it is the skyscrapper i wait the most in the place of paris
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Old June 19th, 2011, 11:19 AM   #2766
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Personally, I don't know if I will like Phare or not, but I admit that I'm quite curious to see it for real.... (btw it is planned to be completed by 2014, 2015...or later ??)



Edit: Oh, and we can see Phare briefly at the very beginning of this video of the Arena 92 :



For more info about this stadium, here is its thread in the Stadiums and Sport Arenas section of the world forums:
PARIS - Arena 92 (32,000)

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Old June 22nd, 2011, 04:11 PM   #2767
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it is the skyscrapper i wait the most in the place of paris
The Tours Hermitage will be far more impressive. Unlike anything else in Europe in terms of "massiveness".
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 04:35 PM   #2768
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The Tours Hermitage will be far more impressive. Unlike anything else in Europe in terms of "massiveness".
...Apart from your ego.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 05:59 PM   #2769
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The Shard IS massive too.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 06:39 PM   #2770
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The Shard is nothing compared to the Tours Hermitage. Don't forget that the Shard is essentially a 250 meters tower with just a thin spire on top. The Tours Hermitage are full towers up to the roof 337 meters above street level, and there are two of them. It's massive, almost as massive as the Empire State Building.

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Old June 22nd, 2011, 06:42 PM   #2771
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We will see when/if they are completed..one day..God knows when..
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 06:58 PM   #2772
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The Shard is nothing compared to the Tours Hermitage. Don't forget that the Shard is essentially a 250 meters tower with just a thin spire on top. The Tours Hermitage are full towers up to the roof 337 meters above street level, and there are two of them. It's massive, almost as massive as the Empire State Building.
Massive doesn't impress. The Sears Tower is massive but ugly imo. Taipei 101 is massive but is absolutely hideous. The Hermitage Towers are not hideous (nor are they massive by global standards). In fact they're good looking towers, but they're still not as pretty as the Shard or 122 Leadenhall. London's getting the best skyscrapers in Europe, and in much more exciting central locations...
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 07:13 PM   #2773
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As much as there's Godwin's Law there should be Matthieu's Law.

About any discussion involving Paris, the longer it get the higher the chances to see Monkey comming in and comparing whatever the conversation was about to something in London. The chances get to 100%.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 07:24 PM   #2774
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They are nice, their scale will be impressive however I find their design fairly bland and 'safe'. I assume they are being built in La Defence? Are there any skyscrapers proposed closer (or within) the 'centre' of Paris?
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 07:30 PM   #2775
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As much as there's Godwin's Law there should be Matthieu's Law.

About any discussion involving Paris, the longer it get the higher the chances to see Monkey comming in and comparing whatever the conversation was about to something in London. The chances get to 100%.
Perhaps if you kept your own monkey under control, you'd have grounds to complain, and we all know which trolling member of the French sphere of influence i'm referring to....
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 07:33 PM   #2776
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As much as there's Godwin's Law there should be Matthieu's Law.

About any discussion involving Paris, the longer it get the higher the chances to see Monkey comming in and comparing whatever the conversation was about to something in London. The chances get to 100%.
Well, the conversation was about the Shard apparently being 'nothing' compared to the Hermitage Towers. What do you expect, buddy? Really? I've noticed recently that if someone would just keep Brisavoine on his leash there would be a lot less animosity between Paris and London forumers.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 07:44 PM   #2777
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LoL stop saying that the shard is nothing. Hermitage towers and the shard are beautiful.
It's not a race or a war. "Ho I have a taller skyscraper than you I'm better than you".

There isn't a war between Paris and London so please stop.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 07:45 PM   #2778
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Perhaps if you kept your own monkey under control, you'd have grounds to complain, and we all know which trolling member of the French sphere of influence i'm referring to....
This conversation is about Paris, am I wrong?

I deal with my section and all the mentioned members (including you) aren't welcome in mine.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 07:50 PM   #2779
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This conversation is about Paris, am I wrong?

I deal with my section and all the mentioned members (including you) aren't welcome in mine.
Yes. The conversation was about The Shard vs. Hermitage Towers. Civilized debate would be nice, but let's face it that's rarely what it is. Some people just like posturing.

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LoL stop saying that the shard is nothing. Hermitage towers and the shard are beautiful.
It's not a race or a war. "Ho I have a taller skyscraper than you I'm better than you".

There isn't a war between Paris and London so please stop.
Make this guy a mod.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 07:51 PM   #2780
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however I find their design fairly bland and 'safe'.
Those SSP diagrams are very simplified. 3D mockups of the towers plus detailed renders show of course much more details and refinements.







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