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Old December 8th, 2011, 10:51 PM   #3181
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No! it's finished! would you clad Tadao Ando or Le Corbusier? Such concrete is much more noble than any fashionable cladding!
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Old December 8th, 2011, 10:59 PM   #3182
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This concrete building is so fugly...




this is what you like??? Make your taste evolve! Don't be conservative.




How old are you to be so conservative?!
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Old December 9th, 2011, 01:12 AM   #3183
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No! it's finished! would you clad Tadao Ando or Le Corbusier?
YES I WOULD.
Le Corbusier is a horrible mistake in the History of Mankind. Let's get real.


When will Frenchies stop getting posh? This isn't "Modern Art", this is a failure. Concrete is made of dirt, it's not a material which is esthetical in itself. It's been 50 years we know that by now.

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Old December 9th, 2011, 01:28 AM   #3184
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Then, what shall we do? Are you a philistin?
Concrete is used as a noble material for a while and most reputed architects use it.

I am scared to see how people here are conservative. Materials, colours, shapes...anything creative reveals how narrow minded people are. We are building a boring world of glazed building, do not forget it.

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Old December 9th, 2011, 02:46 AM   #3185
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I can imagine you don't like the brutal esthetics of some of Corbusiers buildings. But that you take Tadao Ando as an example of faillure is just ridiculous, his use of materials is exeptionally refined.

I've seen buildings of both in real life, and there wonderfully crafted. So I think you should point your anger towards the lesser talented architects who build generic rubish. Even though I appreciate you speaking out your dislike, it's boldly overstated to speak about 'horrible mistakes in the History of Mankind' :P
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Old December 9th, 2011, 03:13 AM   #3186
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I can imagine you don't like the brutal esthetics of some of Corbusiers buildings. But that you take Tadao Ando as an example of faillure is just ridiculous, his use of materials is exeptionally refined.
Alright. I didn't know Tadao Ando, so I take him out. I won't judge someone I don't know. I've edited my post to be fair.

However, I'm truly pissed about the vision that modern architecture is made for a posh elite which is able to "understand what modern Art is about". If we need an education to appreciate a building, that means the building has failed.

Architecture isn't Art in its essence, as its main purpose is not to affect our senses, our emotions or our intellect. Architecture's main purpose is to create spaces dedicated to specific functions: housing, business, retail, production, religion, transport... We are not confronted to architecture by choice (as it's the case in Art).

As such, for architecture to be a success, it has to please to most. And it would be elitist and lazy to think that the mob is necessarily tasteless. The Eiffel Tower, the Chrysler Building or Bilbao's Guggenheim museum are all daring, but they do please to most, and that's what makes of them success.

In the example of brutal concrete posted by Quicampoix, I don't see anything daring, I only see ideology: the ideology that the material has to be accepted for what is is, and that this perception has to be enforced to the whole neighbourhood. It's like exhibiting a corpse without skin to remind us we're made of flesh and bones... I can accept that in a museum, but not in a public space.

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Old December 9th, 2011, 02:19 PM   #3187
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this is what you like??? Make your taste evolve! Don't be conservative.

How old are you to be so conservative?!
It's not a matter of age, but a matter of tastes. Architecture is very subjective mate. The building in itself is pretty nice looking but its clad (or rather 'non-clad') spoils it all, it's plain & looks unfinished...

A concrete clad can sometimes look good when it's original, this is for instance that of the new Théâtre in Saint-Nazaire (44), currently under construction, it consists of plain concrete facades & others with patterns:



I like every single style, as long as it's ORIGINAL...
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Old December 9th, 2011, 03:27 PM   #3188
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This concrete building is so fugly...
I think it's simply perfect. This how contemporary architecture should be : evocative, powerful and yet harmonious. This is what Paris needs, 100 times more than international plastic and glass standards (for instance, Carpe Diem's incredibly bad cladding, a shame for such a promising building) or any neo-classical sh*t.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 03:36 PM   #3189
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Carpe Diem was meant to be shit from the beginning, we all knew it
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Old December 9th, 2011, 04:25 PM   #3190
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The new swimming pool of Mantes la Jolie, in the outer western suburb of Paris.







More information here (in french only)
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Old December 9th, 2011, 08:24 PM   #3191
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I think it's simply perfect. This how contemporary architecture should be : evocative, powerful and yet harmonious. This is what Paris needs, 100 times more than international plastic and glass standards (for instance, Carpe Diem's incredibly bad cladding, a shame for such a promising building) or any neo-classical sh*t.
I agree!


Another new building by Saadi



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Old December 10th, 2011, 12:28 AM   #3192
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This building is located at 179 Quai de Valmy (10th), along the canal Saint Martin. It is rented by Emmaüs, an international charitable movement and comprises 30 single room flats for female victims of domestic violence. It recently underwent a comprehensive renovation overseen by architect Emmanuel Saadi and now includes a solar façade.
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Old December 10th, 2011, 01:14 AM   #3193
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wow!!!!! beautiful new projects!!


without any doubt Paris still being a referent in architecture
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Old December 10th, 2011, 03:29 AM   #3194
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I agree!


Another new building by Saadi

Now that is much better !
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Old December 10th, 2011, 10:34 PM   #3195
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Rue Rebière is an interesting urban development in Paris. This is the proposal of Avignon Clouet.

Here some pics found in google









more pics http://www.avignon-clouet.com/home.php/?p=454
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Old December 10th, 2011, 10:40 PM   #3196
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Social housing by Suzel Brout





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Old December 10th, 2011, 11:07 PM   #3197
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Les Halles few weeks ago.





This is how it will look


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Old December 10th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #3198
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A new rendering of tour EQHO by Hubert et Roy.



a recent pic


more to see : http://www.defense-92.fr/eqholesphotos.html
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Old December 11th, 2011, 01:33 AM   #3199
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YES I WOULD.
Le Corbusier is a horrible mistake in the History of Mankind. Let's get real.

I Agree.
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Old December 11th, 2011, 11:52 PM   #3200
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7 Houses / Bigoni-Mortemard Architectes

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Like a small medina, the seven houses are built around an alley. Four of the houses have their living rooms on the second floor, connected to the sky through a series of terraces leading onto the roof, where a small kitchen has been placed. The contrast between the austerity of the façades and the generosity of dimensions and light of the inner spaces is surprising.
http://www.archdaily.com/64364/7-hou...d-architectes/
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