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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:59 PM   #4281
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Hermitage ?
The cover which had to be situated above the RD7 (in front of Hermitage thus) was apparement cancelled (given up). Reflexions is for the study. This cover had to be entierement financed by the EPADESA.

In front of the judgement of the Court of Appeal of the T.G.I. of Paris returned on May 03rd, 2012, the association Vivre a La Defense provided in quashing last October against Hermitage. It is what blocks again and again the project.

Otherwise, Les Damiers Infra-Anjou (location of Hermitage) is being removed asbestos and emptied of the inside.

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Yes, there are more projects in London for now, that to obvious. So what?
Et alors on s'en fout.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 02:09 PM   #4282
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Old January 28th, 2013, 02:31 PM   #4283
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Welcome to the forum Letranger .

I recommend you to take a look at the threads dedicated to Hermitage Plaza on both sections (french & international), you'll have some more information there...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...90684&page=149

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...634777&page=49
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Old January 28th, 2013, 04:11 PM   #4284
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http://www.lesechos.fr/economie-poli...aux-532728.php

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La voie rapide de la rive gauche parisienne est ouverte à d'importants travaux lundi pour créer un espace de 4,5 hectares consacré au sport, à la culture et à la nature. Jusqu'à 2.000 véhicules par heure empruntaient ce tronçon.

Voies sur berge parisiennes
Voies sur berge parisiennes

Après la fermeture des voies sur berge rive droite, c'est au tour de la rive gauche. Mesure phare et très controversée du second mandat de Bertrand Delanoë, la voie rapide longeant la rive gauche de la Seine, à Paris, sera définitivement fermée aux automobilistes sur 2,5 km lundi, pour permettre l'aménagement d'un vaste espace dédié aux loisirs. Entre pont de l'Alma et pont Royal, les véhicules motorisées devront désormais emprunter les « quais hauts », avec à la clé un ralentissement du trafic, malgré la création d'une troisième voie de circulation quai Anatole France. « A terme, une fois que tout sera à l'équilibre et que les automobilistes auront pris d'autres habitudes, le temps de parcours devrait être allongé d'environ six minutes pour traverser Paris d'est en ouest. Dans un premier temps, ce sera plus long », reconnaît la mairie. Jusqu'à 2.000 véhicules par heure empruntent actuellement ce tronçon.

La droite, qui combat ce projet depuis des mois et l'avait même bloqué sous la présidence de Nicolas Sarkozy, a encore dénoncé vendredi « des aménagements d'une nature ludique futile en parfait décalage avec les réalités économiques et sociales du moment, et dont les conséquences pratiques n'ont pas été anticipées ». « Aucun transport collectif alternatif efficace n'a été prévu », proteste Rachida Dati, concernée au premier chef en tant que maire UMP du septième arrondissement de la capitale. L'association 40 millions d'automobilistes assure que la pétition qu'elle a lancée pour obtenir le retrait du projet a recueilli 30.000 signatures.


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Old January 28th, 2013, 04:31 PM   #4285
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Old January 28th, 2013, 04:40 PM   #4286
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Paris is a city made for tourisms
this sector creates much more jobs that the guy who drives his car everyday!

surprisingly i am ok with this project.

more tourists will come in paris just to walk along the riverside.

The main problem imo is in the fact that 'Grand paris' doesn't exist today to solve the problem of transports question.

for the ones who cross paris:NYC has big traffic jams , Tokyo too and London center is accessible only if you pay.

The main problem for me is this absence of a central authority to regulate the big aspects of ile de france politics of transports.

Paris must be bigger and people should stop one day to come in paris with cars!

do people in london go at the city in cars? No
they take the metro.
this is the future of our transports.that's the main aspect to clarify and strenghen.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #4287
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Except that in winter, I will certainly not take plaisure here !
Paris is not a city just for tourism, this is a city there 2 millions peoples live everyday, and that is a bad new if you taked this axe usually.
Do the people make shoping and buying food and take metro ? No. And a lot of TC are not very sure in the evening or the night.
Your solution is to ban cars of Paris ? Like this the city will be a desert...
Like that Paris will can maybe the city the most congested by France. Thanks Delanoe.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 05:19 PM   #4288
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The night when work is finished it becomes 'normal' (21-22 pm) for cars life.

Yes Paris is not only for tourism but can you neglect the number of hôtels & offices on the place of Paris?

Do you think the nightlife is just made for parisians? How many people come from the outside? A lot. Because neuilly ,vincennes,etc... are not (to date) Paris even if we consider them like part of the greater Paris.

People in their mind should stop to ignore that paris is the core of industrial metropole of 12 millions inhabitants.

Go to Tokyo to observe how long is the come back to home for a worker between center of the city and his home.
Do the same for NYC.

Parisians (at least the rare who truly are considered as ) should realize that times change and Riverside touristic aspect creates more jobs than their unhapiness.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 05:26 PM   #4289
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Old January 28th, 2013, 05:31 PM   #4290
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Stop giving them what they want; your attention. It's not worth it.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 06:11 PM   #4291
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The problem is not that there is a new place to have a great life, no, that's very good, the problem is that is remplace a "major" axe very frequented. I know that there are a lot of hotels in Paris, but there are a lot of old buildings that we could destroy and remplace by beautifuls parcs, places or others things...

"Do you think the nightlife is just made for parisians? How many people come from the outside? A lot. Because neuilly ,vincennes,etc... are not (to date) Paris even if we consider them like part of the greater Paris."

The people who lives outside of Paris Intra come for the large majority in common transport, so thats for what we must upgrade the subways and tramways...
The people who lives in suburbs and wants to go in another part of the suburbs make it in car,to by-pass Paris and the parisians who lives in paris and want to go in another place of paris make it with there cars.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 06:43 PM   #4292
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Old January 28th, 2013, 07:25 PM   #4293
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Old January 28th, 2013, 07:54 PM   #4294
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Paris is a city made for tourisms
this sector creates much more jobs that the guy who drives his car everyday!
Tourists and people who work for tourists need to drive their car everyday ! Taxis, restaurants, shops, they are all used by tourists and they all need big car axes to cross Paris.

No, this project is made only for a few ideologists who see Paris as a village where everybody drive vélibs to go to a sunday lunch at Montmartre.

If only the mayor would propose some project made for parisians AND commuters to cross over Paris, but we go back at the Grand Paris, decisions made by a mayor elected by 2millions people have big consequences on 12 millions people.
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Exactly, for example, personally I like the project but not this way, this is completely wrong because there is ANY big and ambitious public transport project.

Delanoë made a few things nice and good but I can't forgive him for being agains the "Grand Paris". I'm so glad he's going the next year and I really really hope that Rachida Dati wins the elections. The right won't be perfect either but how she said "Paris well worth a big ambitious".

This city can't wait any more for a big restructuration, and exactly like you well said "decisions made by a mayor elected by 2millions people have big consequences on 12 millions people".
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The ambition, it is not too much he'strick to Delanoe. That something overtakes of the grass, everybody persists above. Me too I prefer Dati. With Delanoé, Paris looks like more and more an open-air museum.

I see well a promotion for Paris in the future: " Paris, world's biggest museum ! "

But there are so many buildings rotted and without interets to be replaced.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 03:50 AM   #4297
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"decisions made by a mayor elected by 2millions people have big consequences on 12 millions people".
THIS.

Of all the arguments in favour of the "Grand Paris" this one is the strongest in my opinion.
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Passerelle ZAC Claude Bernard Paris 19e

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The Paris ring road will soon celebrate its 80 candles and has never stopped since its inception, to be considered a city break. Sometimes it presents itself as an infrastructure for spatial segregation. In early 2013, the agency DVVD won the competition to make a bridge over the Paris ring road.

Intended only for active modes (pedestrians, bicycles and PMR), the bridge is part of the ZAC Claude Bernard operation in the heart of one of the flagship projects in Paris: Paris North East. The bridge will connect the future therefore multimodal (RER E, 4 bus lines, T3 and T8), warehouses Macdonald rehabilitated and therefore ZAC Claude Bernard with his future cinema complex and park and shopping center in Aubervilliers Millennium .

http://www.urbanews.fr/2013/01/24/28...te-du-periph/#
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The map of the site Paris.fr/metropole2020 which is mentionned here is very interesting. It's the first time I see it. There is every urban projects of the Grand Paris.
But anybody know what's the difference between the purple points and the blue and green points ? The statut of projects ?
If it is, this map is not very updated.
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