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Old February 1st, 2013, 05:02 PM   #4321
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Can you develop please...?
Look at the render : blue sky, sunny day, green trees, nice building with cool cladding, everything seems clean.
Now take a look at the photos : grey sky, cold weather, grey and dirty street, decent cladding but not that great...

I was just saying that renders will ever look nicer than what reality can offer.

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Old February 1st, 2013, 05:31 PM   #4322
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Dude , have you a problem with Paris ?
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Old February 1st, 2013, 05:36 PM   #4323
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@Waffenmetzer

Dude, unless you haven't noticed it yet, the building is under construction, therefore the area cannot be clean, the urban spaces haven't even started (no trees then)...regarding the cladding, it's best to wait for it to be fully installed rather than critizing it when it has just begun...
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Old February 1st, 2013, 05:41 PM   #4324
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Hermitage Plaza are impressive towers, but they ruin the whole skyline from the city center, imo. Aesthetics in urban planning is what Paris is most well-known for, if you allow private investors to build whatever they want wherever they get the highest profit you'll end up having a London-like city, which is amazing in its own way, but not in the same way as Paris ought to be.

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I agree with you, Hermitage Plaza is an amazing project, but I think it is misplaced, it will hide La Défense.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 06:23 PM   #4325
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My dude-o-meter is off the chart...

Thank God I'm not totally stupid nor blind and have noticed the building is FAR from being finished. However it doesn't change my point : renders look like etheric worlds of harmony and perfection but reality is always different, in particular when it comes to the weather : how many renders showing a grey, dark winter day have you seen in you life ?

To summarize, I find the project really nice but not the photos. That's all.

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No, I don't have a problem with Paris. As a proud french citizen I love our capital city.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 06:30 PM   #4326
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1890: the British wanted their own Eiffel Tower

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A year after being inaugurated, the Eiffel tower was so successful that the British had planned to build in London a 360 metres tall Eiffel Tower to rivalise with the parisian one.

A competition had even been launched. Three years later in 1893, work had started, the winning project by Stewart stood around 40 metres above ground but was eventually halted & the structure demolished shortly afterwards.

Here are the chosen projects (among 60 proposals in all), & among others, the winning one which could have become the Stewart Tower.








Winning project by Stewart
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Old February 1st, 2013, 09:13 PM   #4327
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There's only one tower to visit if you have to choose one!

And it's in paris
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Old February 1st, 2013, 10:00 PM   #4328
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There's only one tower to visit if you have to choose one!

And it's in London
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 12:52 AM   #4329
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D2 has never been Swiss Re's copy. Obviously, you've chosen deliberately an angle showing D2's ovoid side, but D2's originality is that if offers 3 different sides. You just need to look at the renderings below to realize that it's unique...









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Old February 2nd, 2013, 01:42 AM   #4330
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This Paris-London feud is really starting to get on my nerves.

On behalf of all the people that don't give a flying **** of the number of posts each thread has, who has copied who and simply want to get informed on the projects going on in these two great cities. Please stop!
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 06:18 AM   #4331
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 11:07 AM   #4332
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There's only one tower to visit if you have to choose one!

And it's in London

Excellent joke ! I love english humour !
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 12:59 PM   #4333
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D2 is superb anyway
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 02:00 PM   #4334
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We will be able to say that when D2 is topped out...not before though
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 04:19 PM   #4335
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Notre-Dame de Paris: the new bells are well arrived!





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The masterpiece of French Gothic architecture in the heart of Paris receives nine new bells, after their predecessors became discordant.


French Cardinal, Andre Armand Vingt-Trois has given his blessing to eight of Notre Dame Cathedral's nine new bells.

A blessing ceremony for the ninth bell is taking place later.

The bells, named after saints and prominent Catholic figures, will be on display at the Paris cathedral until 25 February.

Then they will be hoisted to its iconic twin towers, where they will replace older bells that had become discordant.

Hundreds of people attended the blessing of the new bells, which are scheduled to ring for the first time on 23 March, in time for Palm Sunday and Easter week

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Old February 2nd, 2013, 06:36 PM   #4336
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Fondation Louis Vuitton as seen from Mont Valérien in Suresnes, west of Central Paris

A picture I took earlier today:
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 11:45 PM   #4337
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My dude-o-meter is off the chart...

Thank God I'm not totally stupid nor blind and have noticed the building is FAR from being finished. However it doesn't change my point : renders look like etheric worlds of harmony and perfection but reality is always different, in particular when it comes to the weather : how many renders showing a grey, dark winter day have you seen in you life ?

To summarize, I find the project really nice but not the photos. That's all.

@skanny :
No, I don't have a problem with Paris. As a proud french citizen I love our capital city.
You're absolutely right, renders (especially for European projects) are far too ethereal about pretty much everything. Renders are especially poorly reflective of surrounding buildings and dirty streets (Paris is by no means an unclean city, its just a natural side effect of traffic etc.)

Maybe your critics are just being a little over-sensitive
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Hermitage Plaza are impressive towers, but they ruin the whole skyline from the city center, imo. Aesthetics in urban planning is what Paris is most well-known for, if you allow private investors to build whatever they want wherever they get the highest profit you'll end up having a London-like city, which is amazing in its own way, but not in the same way as Paris ought to be.

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I agree with your statement. Paris has a great urban organization and the parameters really have created one of the world's most beautiful cities. The Paris city governmem should really look to balance this surge of building tall towers with taking care of the urban center's historical height limits, which make the city so much more visually appealing and imposing.
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 12:13 AM   #4339
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(Paris is by no means an unclean city)
Are you kidding me...? Some areas in Paris are incredibly filthy, not to mention the streets & pavements covered in litter & dog dirt...I love my capital city but what I just described has always revolted me. Most of Parisians have no civic awareness...
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 02:33 PM   #4340
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Are you kidding me...? Some areas in Paris are incredibly filthy, not to mention the streets & pavements covered in litter & dog dirt...I love my capital city but what I just described has always revolted me. Most of Parisians have no civic awareness...
I'm glad you say that, I feared I would setting of a debate that deviated from the thread if I said it was an especially dirty city, one thing Paris suffers from as with London is a lack of waste bins in the street. Perhaps litter is not a matter of civic unawareness but rather a lack of places to put it?
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