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Old June 16th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #5101
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the place of republique before renovation

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Paris - La Place de la République par pepandtim, sur Flickr

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Place de La Republique par Fraser P, sur Flickr

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Place de la Republique, Paris par MathTeacherGuy, sur Flickr
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Place de la Republique par Yanda, sur Flickr
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Place de la République night par 2strokeBuzz, sur Flickr

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Place de la République par mateoarquitectura, sur Flickr





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Old June 16th, 2013, 10:37 PM   #5102
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You don't know how I hate this horrible tower. It's unbelievable how they allowed to build something that detestable, I just hope one day it gets demolished.

Desagradable tower
To be honest Montparnasse isn't that ugly, its architecture is far from being hideous, it's actually quite elegant...its main problem is both its isolation & its brownish cladding which makes it rather gloomy.

Hopefully there will be another tower next to it (let's say in a few decades). I'm also fairly sure that Montparnasse will get a reclad in the near future (modern & more transparent).
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Old June 16th, 2013, 10:49 PM   #5103
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Question is: what instead?
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Old June 16th, 2013, 10:55 PM   #5104
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Old June 17th, 2013, 01:27 AM   #5105
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I agree that the bars are ugly (1960s ) but I find the tour Montparnasse very majestic and elegant. The problem is that she's alone and the shopping center at her feet is poorly integreated into the area
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Old June 17th, 2013, 01:44 AM   #5106
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Old June 17th, 2013, 02:20 PM   #5107
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Thanks a lot, Paris is so dynamic
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Old June 17th, 2013, 03:47 PM   #5108
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La Défense this morning during an impressive storm. It was so dark at 11am that it felt like night!

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Old June 17th, 2013, 03:56 PM   #5109
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it really felt like an eclipse. It was really really impressive !
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Old June 17th, 2013, 04:16 PM   #5110
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It was an amazing storm. Unfortunately from where I stay I don't have a good view, so I didn't know the sky was so amazing.

BTW I am not a local so I don't have any preconceived notions, and as such let me say that I love the Montparnasse tower. I find it slick and mysterious, and the lighting adds a lot. Its completely "out of place" quality is what makes it so compelling and enjoyable, actually (for me). That said, the rest of the modern complex around it is utterly poor by any standard; and I would be opposed to the building of a mini-cluster around it. And I would have probably been opposed to the project back when it was all decided.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 04:20 PM   #5111
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BTW I am not a local so I don't have any preconceived notions, and as such let me say that I love the Montparnasse tower. I find it slick and mysterious, and the lighting adds a lot. Its completely "out of place" quality is what makes it so compelling and enjoyable, actually (for me). That said, the rest of the modern complex around it is utterly poor by any standard;
I fully agree. The problem isn't the tower in itself but its awful integration at ground level with this ugly blockhaus mall and the groundscrapers dominating the rail station.

The neighbourhood has a lot of potential to become briliant. This being said, I have no clue why you consider a mini-cluster wouldn't be good in this area. It's a great way to build a profitable top quality mixed project.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 04:37 PM   #5112
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^ well, I suspect that if the ugly stuff ever gets demolished, then they won't build something haussman-style, I wouln't expect that. I just wouldn't want the new buildings be very tall because I like the way the Montparnasse tower stands there alone, it's a very unique thing. Very peculiar, in a good sense. If it became a cluster, well, all the major cities have clusters; the Montparnasse is special as it is now.
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Special, but hated. The arrival of Swiss Re contributed a lot to better integrate Tower42 in the City of London skyline. I'm sure the same could happen in Montparnasse.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 06:00 PM   #5114
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Yeah, I know my own tastes on this are not really shared, and in terms of general public opinion a development in the direction you're describing would be for the better.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 10:33 PM   #5115
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It was so so so so so much better than what we've had instead, what a waste...

ps: what year does this photograph date from?
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Old June 17th, 2013, 11:14 PM   #5116
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To be honest Montparnasse isn't that ugly, its architecture is far from being hideous, it's actually quite elegant...its main problem is both its isolation & its brownish cladding which makes it rather gloomy.

Hopefully there will be another tower next to it (let's say in a few decades). I'm also fairly sure that Montparnasse will get a reclad in the near future (modern & more transparent).
I ADORE that tower actually.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 11:42 PM   #5117
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It was so so so so so much better than what we've had instead, what a waste...
It was small and undersized for the traffic.
I can't say that this old station was very beautiful either.
It was rather banal, nothing like the other big terminal of Paris (except Austerlitz).
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Old June 18th, 2013, 02:42 AM   #5118
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I think you guys concentrate a bit too much on LD and towers. It would be nice to see smaller projects.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 02:52 AM   #5119
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The only part about Montparansse that I don't like is the brown cladding. If it was blacker, or maybe reflective blue, it would be better, but otherwise it's a good building.
I've heard people calling it a "box" but it really isn't one. It's curved with indented sides, a shape I don't recall any other building having.

I hope it is never demolished, but instead renovated and maybe more towers built around it.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 03:15 PM   #5120
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Does Paris need new skyscrapers?

Paris is set to follow London's race into the skies with 12 new skyscrapers.

A hundred and twenty years ago, the English designer William Morris was asked why, in the French capital, he spent so much time at the Eiffel Tower.

"It is," he explained, "the only place I can't see it from."

Today he would probably choose the Tour Montparnasse that rises like a 59-storey black gravestone where once was a neighbourhood of political dreamers, artists and poets.

After they built this office block in 1973, the outcry was so loud, they banned new buildings over seven storeys high. But the mayor, Bertrand Delanoe, overturned that ban outside the city centre at least.

Paris city hall believes that skyscrapers - albeit of a certain sort, in certain places - are just what Paris needs.

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