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Old February 18th, 2015, 10:27 AM   #7381
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housing development in the batignolle district, near the new courthouse tower:







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Nice building!
Sober and classy
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Old February 18th, 2015, 01:43 PM   #7382
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QUAI DU POINT DU JOUR, BOULOGNE BILLANCOURT
Delivery: 2016

"In October 2014, Emerige and its partner AOG won the contract to develop the building ‘Quai Ouest’.
Overlooking the Seine, in the heart of the QCA Ouest business district, the building benefits from exceptional visibility and excellent transport links, particularly to the underground network."






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Old February 18th, 2015, 03:55 PM   #7383
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architect: Corinne Vezzoni et Associés
offices (10 500 m²) next to the new courthouse.



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Old February 18th, 2015, 04:34 PM   #7384
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I love the new districts of Paris. Forget Haussmann. Now it's the time of Anne Hidalgo.
I want to reply to this (utter nonsense) with something that was said on the London thread already.

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In the long run, in a world where cities will increasingly compete with each other, those who preserve their historic buildings are going to be worth much more.
Totally agree. Urban identities, characters are much more than a sentimental value, they are a main indicator for quality of life - probably the main factor that draws people to a place in the future. Character is a (or the) main factor when we look for someone in our life, wife/husband, friends - it's the same with cities. If cities eradicate their past and character, they eradicate a large portion of their quality factors.

Paris' identity is globally unique. The Hausmannian areas aren't even so vast. If Greater Paris is finally created, there's more than enough space for cutting edge modern quarters who can try and compete with the classical architecture quarters of Paris. We'll see which ones will last in the long run, which will be remembered by tourists and Parisians, which will be truly iconic for the city. I don't think a place like La Defense is, even though it has its place in the city of Paris - but it could be anywhere else, nothing Parisian about it.
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Old February 18th, 2015, 06:21 PM   #7385
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new does not necessarily means glass and steel
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Old February 18th, 2015, 07:28 PM   #7386
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Of course, postmodern or new classical buildings are apt, if done right. An older pre-modernist building is heritage already though, part of our collective memory. Especially Paris needs to do a lot to save, value and vitalise heritage, it's a wonderful city with millennia of continuous history.

There's enough space to build cutting-edge contemporary stuff without replacing Haussmannian or even older quarters.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 01:43 AM   #7387
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I want to reply to this (utter nonsense) with something that was said on the London thread already.


Totally agree. Urban identities, characters are much more than a sentimental value, they are a main indicator for quality of life - probably the main factor that draws people to a place in the future. Character is a (or the) main factor when we look for someone in our life, wife/husband, friends - it's the same with cities. If cities eradicate their past and character, they eradicate a large portion of their quality factors.

Paris' identity is globally unique. The Hausmannian areas aren't even so vast. If Greater Paris is finally created, there's more than enough space for cutting edge modern quarters who can try and compete with the classical architecture quarters of Paris. We'll see which ones will last in the long run, which will be remembered by tourists and Parisians, which will be truly iconic for the city. I don't think a place like La Defense is, even though it has its place in the city of Paris - but it could be anywhere else, nothing Parisian about it.
Why so serious!
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Old February 19th, 2015, 02:21 AM   #7388
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QUAI DU POINT DU JOUR, BOULOGNE BILLANCOURT


Now that is a nice building. More urbanism like this, Paris! Bravo!
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:32 AM   #7389
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Why so serious!
Because locally there is from time to time some pressure to destroy some haussmanian buildings to build new international cheap architecture.

Young people and architects tend to forget about local and inherited identities in an always more globalized world, and this is then a serious architecture topic.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 10:31 AM   #7390
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Because locally there is from time to time some pressure to destroy some haussmanian buildings to build new international cheap architecture.

Young people and architects tend to forget about local and inherited identities in an always more globalized world, and this is then a serious architecture topic.
Don't you wonder why alexandru.mircea and clouchicloucha liked my post? They want to destroy the haussmanian buildings for some new buildings of Anne Hidalgo? Who love Paris but don't love its haussmanian buildings?

That's why I said "Why so serious!"
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Old February 19th, 2015, 12:39 PM   #7391
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Because locally there is from time to time some pressure to destroy some haussmanian buildings to build new international cheap architecture.

Young people and architects tend to forget about local and inherited identities in an always more globalized world, and this is then a serious architecture topic.
where did you see an haussmanian building destroyed?
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Old February 19th, 2015, 04:51 PM   #7392
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Yeah I don't think any Haussmanian building would ever be destroyed (or only very few would possibly be). I think the danger in Paris' case is more destroying the Haussmanian "feeling" and "harmony" by adding towers/or out of place badly integrated modern buldings. But here again, it's very rare and I don't think it's a real threat (Tour Montparnasse''s syndrome). Not to mention that there already are some (sad) 70's/80's ugly additions (Faculty of medicine in Latin quarter for instance).

Reversely, what's threatening Paris those days is an over protection of that "Haussmanian feeling" in places where it should not be protected because there's already none. For instance in ZAC Austerlitz or ZAC Pantin, why keep the buildings so low? An extra 2 or 3 floors would not damage Paris's skyline nor break any historical harmony where there are no historcial buildings whatsoever.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 05:52 PM   #7393
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reclading proposal for the Maine Montparnasse tower

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Exemple de recladding proposé par VBNB, Barué-Boutet Associés et Olivier Brouard.









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Old February 19th, 2015, 06:10 PM   #7394
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I prefer the actual cladding.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 06:21 PM   #7395
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Old February 19th, 2015, 06:23 PM   #7396
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Is this a serious thing or just a random proposal?

Could be nice, but 1)why not go all the way down? 2)It's gonna totally mess up the visibility from the roof top (which is undoubtedly one of the best views of Paris)!
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Old February 19th, 2015, 06:26 PM   #7397
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This is why we need a preservation movement of later 20th century architecture. Especially in Europe, just tearing down or disfiguring every building left and right without a second thought, repeating the exact mistakes we promised never to repeat.

What they should do is preserve the shape, the black colour, and the clean white vertical lines on the facade. If they find a new clad that can maintain those three things, then they can reclad it.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 06:53 PM   #7398
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The most (and probably the only for many Parisians) appreciable feature of this tower is its slenderness, and this is exactly what this re-cladding is sacrificing. The most hated one is its ugly dark-brownish tone, and it is the one this re-cladding fails to deal with, and it is only renders ...

ThatOneGuy, I quite disagree, Parisians will dislike this tower as long as it is dark, and will distrust towers as long as they don't like this one. I would prefer a bright, maybe even mirrory cladding. Not for artistic reasons, but for public opinion. Also, such a big monolith in the middle of a flat cityscape won't be able to blend in if we don't try to minimize its visual impact. Light tones can blend in the sky, instead of fighting with it.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 07:27 PM   #7399
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Unusual in paris intra-muros: two new individual houses (bd Richard-Lenoir, 11th)




And a lot of big programs in Ivry/Vitry along the D5:


In front of the parisian cemetery of Ivry:





And another sample near Macval:
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Old February 19th, 2015, 07:29 PM   #7400
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Relocating the Montparnasse tower to La Défense is the only solution.
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