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Old February 19th, 2015, 07:43 PM   #7401
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Old February 19th, 2015, 08:04 PM   #7402
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Unusual in paris intra-muros: two new individual houses (bd Richard-Lenoir, 11th)




Only 3 or 4 floors at the heart of Paris, below existing buildings!
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Old February 19th, 2015, 08:14 PM   #7403
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ThatOneGuy, I quite disagree, Parisians will dislike this tower as long as it is dark
Don't speak on behalf of all Parisians, will you? Because, for example as a Parisian who was born and raised in Paris, I can tell you that almost all of my fellow Parisians disliking Montparnasse and with whom I ever discussed about it, precisely find its dark colour (i.e. its famous 70s style) and its monolithic aspect as the only positive points regarding this tower. (and I agree with them I must admit)


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and will distrust towers as long as they don't like this one.
Quite simplistic analysis if you ask me (and far from being true BTW), since there are numerous other reasons behind the Parisians - and the French more generally - hate/disdain for tall buildings.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 08:20 PM   #7404
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Only 3 or 4 floors at the heart of Paris, below existing buildings!
Ridiculous
Why don't you propose to the real-estate promoter or to the owners of these two individual private houses to pay yourself for the additional floors you're asking for (even so they're not needed and/or profitable enough)? ....
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Old February 19th, 2015, 08:24 PM   #7405
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Relocating the Montparnasse tower to La Défense is the only solution.
Demolish it please !!

That tower is beyond horrible
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Old February 19th, 2015, 08:28 PM   #7406
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Demolish it please !!

That tower is beyond horrible
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Old February 19th, 2015, 08:46 PM   #7407
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:08 PM   #7408
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ThatOneGuy, I quite disagree, Parisians will dislike this tower as long as it is dark, and will distrust towers as long as they don't like this one. I would prefer a bright, maybe even mirrory cladding. Not for artistic reasons, but for public opinion. Also, such a big monolith in the middle of a flat cityscape won't be able to blend in if we don't try to minimize its visual impact. Light tones can blend in the sky, instead of fighting with it.
Blending in is boring. Let the dark shine.

We must let the 'dated' become 'historic' or else we risk repeating those demolitions we always regret nowadays.
The way to do that is not though disfigurement but by the preservation of the 1960s look in a thoughtful restoration.

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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:26 PM   #7409
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this reclading preserve its darkness.
it' s just a second skin

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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:34 PM   #7410
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It looks awful though and ruins the tower completely.

The only acceptable thing is to reclad it with modern materials while retaining the original aesthetics.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 10:22 PM   #7411
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I do find that Montparnasse tower really destroys part of Paris Skyline.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 11:01 PM   #7412
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the eiffel tower too
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Old February 20th, 2015, 01:28 AM   #7413
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49 avenue de l'opera without the scaffolding , after a facade renovation.

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Ca y est, le dernier bâtiment de la place de l'Opéra est ravalé et les échaffaudages sont retirés.
On peut enfin retrouver toute la richesse de cet immeuble et de ses détails architecturaux :









Vous noterez au passage qu'ils auraient pu faire l'effort d'écrire le mot "pain" en français ou, à minima, de ne pas faire une faute d'orthographe
A minima, je peux néanmoins affirmer que j'ai photographié la Bred à l'heure du breakfast...
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Old February 20th, 2015, 02:08 AM   #7414
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^speaking of renovations, they've made great progress at Place Vendome since I last visited it. Looks fantastic.

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BTW there are a couple of Hausmannian buildings torn down now, for the new Samaritaine. Or is the project going through anyway? BTW I remember reading several French SSC members (RE the Samaritaine project) who think that Hausmannian style is boring (not on this thread but in the French section, I think).
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Old February 20th, 2015, 03:12 AM   #7415
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BTW there are a couple of Hausmannian buildings torn down now, for the new Samaritaine. Or is the project going through anyway? BTW I remember reading several French SSC members (RE the Samaritaine project) who think that Hausmannian style is boring (not on this thread but in the French section, I think).
Not sure those buildings are/were actually Haussmanian, since they were built slightly before Haussman's work.
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Halle Freyssinet
See this is a really nice project. Completely preserves the integrity of the original building. Same should be done with Montparnasse and any other run down buildings.
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the eiffel tower too
The Eiffel tower is beautiful.

The Montparnasse tower is disgusting, with its 70's american design and its horrible cladding
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Old February 20th, 2015, 10:07 AM   #7418
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the eiffel destroyed the skyline. all the famous artists of the 19th century hated it . people began to like it only in the mid 1930's, 50 years after it was built, with a new generation of people. so maybe you hate the montparnasse tower because you belong to the old generation
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Old February 20th, 2015, 12:28 PM   #7419
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Why don't you propose to the real-estate promoter or to the owners of these two individual private houses to pay yourself for the additional floors you're asking for (even so they're not needed and/or profitable enough)? ....
I don't ask for anything, just remark that there is a huge lack of housing in Paris and at the very heart there are still projects like this one, absurdly small.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 12:55 PM   #7420
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Unusual in paris intra-muros: two new individual houses (bd Richard-Lenoir, 11th)



i like this one. i like the contrast with the neighbouring buildings.
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