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Old February 20th, 2015, 01:13 PM   #7421
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the eiffel destroyed the skyline. all the famous artists of the 19th century hated it . people began to like it only in the mid 1930's, 50 years after it was built, with a new generation of people. so maybe you hate the montparnasse tower because you belong to the old generation
I quite young actually

That's because I really hate the 70's architecture.

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i like this one. i like the contrast with the neighbouring buildings.
They're not that bad but the problem is that they're small. They should have been of the same side of the surrounding buildings.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 01:49 PM   #7422
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The Eiffel tower is beautiful.

The Montparnasse tower is disgusting, with its 70's american design and its horrible cladding
Everyone always hates the styles that are currently 30-50 years old. It has always been the case.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 04:10 PM   #7423
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That building should have 3 more floors, if stay like this it`s horrible, leaving the ugly gap between nearby buildings.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 05:28 PM   #7424
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the eiffel destroyed the skyline. all the famous artists of the 19th century hated it . people began to like it only in the mid 1930's, 50 years after it was built, with a new generation of people. so maybe you hate the montparnasse tower because you belong to the old generation
Well it's already been close to 45 years since Montparnasse was completed and most people still find it pretty ugly, and if not ugly, totally out of place.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 05:57 PM   #7425
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Old February 20th, 2015, 08:09 PM   #7426
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Not sure those buildings are/were actually Haussmanian, since they were built slightly before Haussman's work.
They were, according to Street View from 2008: https://www.google.fr/maps/@48.86011...1T000000?hl=en
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Old February 20th, 2015, 11:26 PM   #7427
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Old February 20th, 2015, 11:40 PM   #7428
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They were, according to Street View from 2008: https://www.google.fr/maps/@48.86011...1T000000?hl=en
Yeha but believe it or not they were built in the XVIIth century prior to Haussman (though that doesn't mean they should not be preserved). An interesting thing is also that those exact buildings were meant to be destroyed at the begining of the century to make space for a building built by the same architect (Sauvage) that made the building facing the Seine.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 11:48 PM   #7429
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some have to understand that a city has to be liveable. but the tourists dont care.. they dont live there.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 11:51 PM   #7430
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Yeha but believe it or not they were built in the XVIIth century prior to Haussman (though that doesn't mean they should not be preserved). An interesting thing is also that those exact buildings were meant to be destroyed at the begining of the century to make space for a building built by the same architect (Sauvage) that made the building facing the Seine.
Well, that makes them even more precious then.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 11:31 AM   #7431
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That building should have 3 more floors, if stay like this it`s horrible, leaving the ugly gap between nearby buildings.
At least the gap reminds us that behind the joyless, grey limestone of Parisian front walls, there is also some colourful bricks. Beside that, it is quite an ugly gap.

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They were, according to Street View from 2008: https://www.google.fr/maps/@48.86011...1T000000?hl=en
That is not Haussmanian at all. Limestone and cast iron balustrades are not the signature of Haussman, but were fashionable at the time, and that is why Haussmanian style uses them.

EDIT : On the same street, this https://www.google.fr/maps/@48.86055...1T000000?hl=en
looks Haussmanian (7 storeys, long continuous balconies on the 3rd and 6th but none on the 1st, 4rth and 5th. 1st story is very simple and with low ceiling, mansard roof, continuity of the horizontal lines throughout the block).

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Old February 21st, 2015, 12:18 PM   #7432
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Yeha but believe it or not they were built in the XVIIth century prior to Haussman (though that doesn't mean they should not be preserved).


Absolutely not regarding the ones pointed out by Alexandru located (and aligned ) along rue de Rivoli.. (street which didn't exist back in the XVIIth century, as you already know I presume, since this part of the street was created/constructed between 1853 and 1856, i.e. during the Second Empire and the Haussmann's works).

Actually, the XVIIth century buildings you're referring to, were the ones located in the same block but along rue de la Monnaie and rue Baillet.


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That is not Haussmanian at all.
Yes it is! Those buildings are even built in a pure Second Empire style (commonly known as Haussmannian style ).
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Old February 21st, 2015, 01:42 PM   #7433
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At least the gap reminds us that behind the joyless, grey limestone of Parisian front walls, there is also some colourful bricks. Beside that, it is quite an ugly gap.
YOU are truly joyless

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At least the gap reminds us that behind the joyless, grey limestone of Parisian front walls, there is also some colourful bricks. Beside that, it is quite an ugly gap.


On the same street, this https://www.google.fr/maps/@48.86055...1T000000?hl=en
looks Haussmanian (7 storeys, long continuous balconies on the 3rd and 6th but none on the 1st, 4rth and 5th. 1st story is very simple and with low ceiling, mansard roof, continuity of the horizontal lines throughout the block).
That does not look Hausmannian at all tbh.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 03:07 PM   #7434
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Old February 21st, 2015, 05:11 PM   #7435
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Old February 21st, 2015, 05:25 PM   #7436
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Well it's already been close to 45 years since Montparnasse was completed and most people still find it pretty ugly, and if not ugly, totally out of place.
Still not enough time, especially if there has been so much antimodernist rhetoric for the past 40 years.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 05:43 PM   #7437
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Yes it is! Those buildings are even built in a pure Second Empire style (commonly known as Haussmannian style ).
I thought haussmannian was more than just about a building's style but a precise chart of how it should be : limestones, continuous horizontal lines, (at least) two long balconies at 3rd and 6th, homogeneous throughout the street block. I guess this description is not inclusive enough and do not fit the earlier buildings.

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Old February 21st, 2015, 06:15 PM   #7438
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some have to understand that a city has to be liveable. but the tourists dont care.. they dont live there.
When a city maintains and cares about its beauty, history and identity, that is indeed a factor for quality of life as well as a visitor's pleasure.

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Still not enough time, especially if there has been so much antimodernist rhetoric for the past 40 years.
Ahahaha, come on. If any, there has been a strong tendency for anti-historicism rhetoric, and many 19th and early 20th century buildings were torn down carelessly. New Urbanism and New Classical architecture are very recent and minor movements. Postmodernism was a broad but very brief movement, so it didn't really achieve a lasting paradigm shift. Modernist teaching remains dominant in academic education across the planet.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 07:20 PM   #7439
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When a city maintains and cares about its beauty, history and identity, that is indeed a factor for quality of life as well as a visitor's
people prefer to live in a liveable city rather than a touristic city. the better place in the world to live are not paris or venice. they are calgary, vancouver, melbourne.. (according to global rankings). some leftist would like to turn paris into just a holiday city. it is not and will never be. it's a working city and will always be. paris is a city for parisians working and living in paris first and not for tourists, like it or not

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Old February 21st, 2015, 07:57 PM   #7440
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