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Old May 5th, 2015, 06:05 PM   #7761
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Actually real facts say so
"real facts" from who? Tourists like you? Please, give us (West-Parisians ) a break, dear CB31.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 06:07 PM   #7762
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Stop the trolling , there isn't any space left for more "proper parks" in central Paris. That train left what, a century and a half ago?
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Old May 5th, 2015, 06:09 PM   #7763
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I haven't been there yet but from what I've seen it looks pretty "cheap". I especially regret they kept the road as it is instead of putting a nice pavement.

Not to mention the chalk-drawn patterns on the ground.
I agree, but it's due that the Préfecture de Paris imposed to the city that the space need to be able to be evacuated in less than 24h in case of inundations.

The city is going through a public consultation of the current "Berges de Seine" to see the improvement that could be done.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 06:11 PM   #7764
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Nice pavement wouldn't change anything to that.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 06:15 PM   #7765
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The asphalt road is better as it can be used as a surface for sporting activities, which old school pavement can't. It's also better for the people going there by roller skates, bikes, or with baby carriages.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 06:17 PM   #7766
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Say the socialists ! ()


First of all, these ideological critics are so from the past. We all know that we need to change our way of living.

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"real facts" from who? Tourists like you? Please, give us (West-Parisians ) a break, dear CB31.
No, but from public sources!:

Un vif succès pour les berges de la rive gauche

La piétonisation de la rive gauche de la Seine, du Pont Royal au Pont de l’Alma, est un succès reconnu de tous. Avec plus de 4 millions de visiteurs accueillis en seulement dix-huit mois, ces berges sont devenues un élément majeur de l’attractivité, du rayonnement et de l’identité de Paris.

A cette fréquentation exceptionnelle, s’ajoute un bilan très positif en matière de qualité de vie, d’écologie et de circulation. La fermeture aux automobiles a diminué de 15% le niveau de dioxyde d’azote sur le site, sans augmentation notable aux alentours. Une flore spontanée s’est développée et de nouvelles espèces d’oiseaux ont été recensées. Conformément aux prévisions, le report de la circulation a été maîtrisé et les temps de parcours se sont stabilisés.
Tout savoir sur la rive gauche et ses animations: lesberges.paris.fr



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Old May 5th, 2015, 06:18 PM   #7767
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The city is going through a public consultation of the current "Berges de Seine" to see the improvement that could be done.
Public inquiries to what Parisians (I mean the overwhelming majority of us) answered that they/we want to keep the ""Seineside"" freeways as they are!!!
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Old May 5th, 2015, 06:23 PM   #7768
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Old May 5th, 2015, 06:28 PM   #7769
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'Bonne continuation' dude
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Old May 5th, 2015, 08:34 PM   #7770
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Stop the trolling , there isn't any space left for more "proper parks" in central Paris. That train left what, a century and a half ago?
A park needs not be huge. Parts of the right bank berges could be landscaped as in that picture and it would be a gorgeous sight.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 08:41 PM   #7771
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"Central Paris" does have proper parks! (and so despite its quite high built-up density)
Never said there aren't, but the largest ones (Tuileries and Luxembourg) are gardens.

I would appreciate such an approach, the left bank berges are cool but still essentially a pedestrianized road.

There was also a poll online some time ago on paris.fr that explicitly asked whether the road element was still too present.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 08:46 PM   #7772
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Public inquiries to what Parisians (I mean the overwhelming majority of us) answered that they/we want to keep the ""Seineside"" freeways as they are!!!
Luckily enough they didn't listen.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 09:30 PM   #7773
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Tolbiac

Regarding the fine building of the rue du Colonel Driant, it was supposed to look like that (in 2011) :

I don't know what happened since ...

Some updates from the Tolbiac area :
nice light on the achieved buildings


It still goes on with the other ones :


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Old May 5th, 2015, 10:09 PM   #7774
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The Mayor of #Paris @Anne_Hidalgo announces today an ambitious urban program of the the banks of River Seine

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Old May 6th, 2015, 10:54 AM   #7775
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Old May 6th, 2015, 04:33 PM   #7776
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Ridiculous project(s) IMHO.
I mean I'm not especially a pro-car, but on this one I think the socialists and their friends at the Paris Council are pushing it too far. Someone maybe should remind them that Paris is a 10 million inhabitants city and not a provincial small town or a village, and that most of us don't live in the deep core of the city like their "bobo" friends, so the current west-east freeway on the Seine banks is more than needed and helpful in terms of mobility for many of us.
Not to mention that it's not like if a large part of the lower banks of the Seine weren't already pedestrian and had always been... So a pragmatic approach should have been a equal sharing of those banks, between cars (fast mobility), light "transportation" such as bikes etc and pedestrian areas.. Oh wait, that's already the case ! (but those damned extremist green elected members, don't like that ).
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Old May 6th, 2015, 04:35 PM   #7777
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Right-minded Paris mayor plans more pedestrianisation along the Seine

Anne Hidalgo unveils €8m project to replace busy highway along right bank with gardens and grassy walkways from the Bastille to the Eiffel Tower

The mayor of Paris has fired another salvo in the war against motorists and choking pollution with a plan to turn the right bank of the River Seine into a pedestrian zone.

A busy highway flanking the river bank of the French capital would be replaced by waterside gardens, children’s play areas and grassy walkways. At its most ambitious, the €8m project launched by the Socialist mayor, Anne Hidalgo, would allow pedestrians to stroll along a vehicle-free stretch from Place de la Bastille, also due to undergo a facelift under other plans, to the Eiffel Tower.

Public consultation will begin in June to decide how much of the river bank road network should be closed to traffic.

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Old May 6th, 2015, 04:38 PM   #7778
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Urban motorways have no place in the XXI century.
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Old May 6th, 2015, 04:40 PM   #7779
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That's only an ideological approach if you ask me, because that's easy to say when you don't have to use them.
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Old May 6th, 2015, 04:57 PM   #7780
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Daily car commuting has no place in a large city, therefore, urban motorways are pointless. It is not ideology but merely logics.
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