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Old May 29th, 2015, 01:56 AM   #7821
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Massy Grand Ouest
Redevelopment around Massy Palaiseau station in southern suburb.
Mostly looking like some cheaply renovated commieblocks...
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Old May 29th, 2015, 02:17 AM   #7822
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Very poor materials and shapes.

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Old May 29th, 2015, 05:26 PM   #7823
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Bizarre comments above. Those buildings looks just fine. Well above the average of what you get for a suburban residential neighbourhood, 17 kilometres away from downtown Paris.

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Mostly looking like some cheaply renovated commieblocks...
I thought you know how commieblocks look, erbse (volumetry, facade design etc.) If you want to educate yourself on the appearance of cheaply renovated ones, join us on the Romanian dedicated thread.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 05:32 PM   #7824
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Totally agree with you Alexandru.

I find those buildings to be nice, nothing like commieblocks. And someone has to explain to me how one can judge the quality of the materials with those renderings...
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Old May 29th, 2015, 05:36 PM   #7825
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Some people are (way too) easy to please when it comes to contemporary architecture.
The general level of new builts used to be way better throughout the 19th and early 20th century (see Belle Epoque, Art Nouveau, Art Deco, Expressionism, Streamline Moderne, etc.). But to each his own I guess.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 05:58 PM   #7826
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Well I would kinda agree with that. However, for people back then, it as probably the same feeling since that's all the architecture they knew. Time will judge. Anyways, these constructions seem like a decent place and environment to live in.

Besides, those are residential buildings. Not everything built in the 19th or early 20th was a masterpiece but also a lot of random/plain constructions.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 06:00 PM   #7827
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Some people are (way too) easy to please when it comes to contemporary architecture.
The general level of new builts used to be way better throughout the 19th and early 20th century (see Belle Epoque, Art Nouveau, Art Deco, Expressionism, Streamline Moderne, etc.). But to each his own I guess.
I don't think you understand. Or rather you don't want to understand. Feel free to wander around where the project is being built, and THEN come back and praise the architecture of the past. There's your commieblocks! The existence of great architecture in great inner cities does not bind in any way remote residential suburbs to build fancy art deco towers, art nuveau villas or neo-renaissance palaces, nor that they could or that they should. That's an absurd logic. It's nice if the badly needed affordable residential projects have nice designs, like this one does (it's Christian de Portzamparc ffs!), but only the market can decide upon that.

Edit: that is not to say excellent stuff doesn't get built in remote suburbs, there is such stuff, but like it was in ages past for palaces, churches, monasteries etc that have set the bar for good architecture, now it also is for key buildings such as museums, cultural centres, stadiums, especially where regional funds can be used so that the projects go beyond what tiny suburbs can afford. Your quest for groundbreaking worldclass architecture in remote suburban residential projects is quite misguided, to say the least.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 06:27 PM   #7828
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I'm not looking for world class architecture in mid- or low-income suburbs, but for decent and sustainable building. It really doesn't have to be expensive at all. If I take the time I might show some examples of what I have in mind.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 07:17 PM   #7829
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Old May 29th, 2015, 07:28 PM   #7830
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Some Haussmannian gone lunatic.

Reminiscent of this Dutch experiment (Zaandam Inntel Hotel):


http://www.zaanstreek.nl/bezoeken/overnachten/?page=2


It's a willful kitschy postmodern abomination to classical architecture, but I'm still eager to see how it turns how. Looks like some sort of imprint on a glassy facade?!
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Old May 29th, 2015, 08:33 PM   #7831
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Old June 2nd, 2015, 08:18 PM   #7832
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Pré Saint-Gervais

Re-use of former factory buildings for appartments and offices (rue lazare Carnot) :





Some parts of the former buildings were destroyed but the frontage are rebuilt :




And still in parisian East but intra muros, a new appartments building at the top of Ménilmontant :
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Old June 2nd, 2015, 09:51 PM   #7833
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Generally global cities are in Anglosaxon countries. Because they have always won any war.
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 12:28 AM   #7834
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Paris : world tallest wood building (proposal)



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Old June 5th, 2015, 07:27 AM   #7836
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Tourism in Paris
  • Still the most visited city in the world with 19.2 million international visitors in 2014 (52,6 % are Europeans).
  • The first 40 major cultural and recreation sites of Paris region received more than 100 million visitors. Most of them gained visitors from 2013 to 2014 (Louvre, Eiffel tower, Cité des sciences et de l'industrie, Grand Palais, Versailles ...).
  • First city for trade fairs and conferences in 2013 and 2014 according to the International Congress and Convention Association with 214 events.

Source and more : http://pro.visitparisregion.com/chif...-Ile-de-France
Focus on the international clientèle by nationality : http://pro-media.visitparisregion.co...rnationale.pdf
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Old June 5th, 2015, 01:47 PM   #7837
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Sexy this wood building.
Paris is always sexy.
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Old June 8th, 2015, 12:37 AM   #7838
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The French Senate fixed the limits of the Greater Paris Metropolis last week. If the National Assembly does not change before July what the Senate has done, then this is what the territory of the Greater Paris Metropolis should look like when it comes into existence on January 1, 2016.

The Métropole du Grand Paris (Greater Paris Metropolis) will:
  • include 133 communes (municipalies), i.e. City of Paris + 132 "suburban" municipalities
  • cover exactly 840 km² (324 mi²), i.e. 105 km² of City of Paris + 735 km² of inner and outer suburbs. Unfortunately many outer suburbs will not be included in the Greater Paris Metropolis, because the members of Parliament chose the path of least resistance and opted for a Greater Paris Metropolis essentially limited to the inner suburbs. For comparison, Greater London covers 1,572 km², and even the city of Rome covers 1,287 km².
  • have 7,014,165 inhabitants (that's the population of those 840 km² at the 2012 census). The population density was thus 8,350 inh. per km² (21,626 ppsm) at the 2012 census (25,757 inh. per km² / 66,711 ppsm in the City of Paris; 6,498 inh. per km² / 16,829 ppsm in the "suburbs").
  • be ruled by a "metropolitan council" made up of approx. 210 members representing the 133 communes
  • be divided into gigantic EPTs ("établissements publics territoriaux"), similar to London boroughs, whose exact numbers and limits will be known this summer (the EPTs must contain more than 300,000 inhabitants each, it's a mandatory requirement). I say "gigantic" in a French context (of minuscule communes), because of course those EPTs will be smaller than the NYC boroughs.
  • change Paris forever, but nobody knows exactly in what ways. Everybody (Parliament, government, local officials and mayors) is a bit lost after the 8 (8!) back and forth in Parliament that this Greater Paris bill has been submitted to, nobody knows where we're going exactly, but we're going 'there'. Armageddon starts on January 1, 2016 if you're to believe the local politicians. They are all peeing in their pants at the moment. Fun to watch.
  • (oh yeah, I almost forgot) perhaps be expanded to cover the entire 12,012 km² (4,638 mi²) of the Paris Region. Now some politicians in the government have 2nd thoughts, they think the territory of the Greater Paris Metropolis is too small (it will include Orly Airport in its entirety for example, but only one-third of CDG Airport, and none of the French 'MITs' located on the Plateau de Saclay, which concentrates Paris's top-notch engineering schools and scientific campuses), and it makes no sense to have a regional authority distinct from the metropolitan authority, so it would be better to merge the metropolis and the region. As of now we're heading towards a 840 km² metropolis on Jan. 1, 2016. After that, only God knows.

In the picture below that I took three days ago in the southern suburbs of Paris exactly 22.5 km (14 miles) south of Notre Dame Cathedral, everything will be outside of the Greater Paris Metropolis, which shows the absurdity of these narrow borders (at the same distance from St Paul's Cathedral in London we would be in the southern part of the Borough of Croydon, fully inside Greater London). There are about 300,000 people who live in this picture.

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Old June 8th, 2015, 12:49 AM   #7839
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Isn't Brisavoine banned? lol
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Old June 8th, 2015, 02:05 AM   #7840
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The limit of the Métropole du Grand Paris as voted by the French Senate.



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