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Old March 11th, 2007, 06:54 PM   #821
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Ferrier's tower looks superb - by far the best in La Defense.
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Old March 12th, 2007, 04:19 PM   #822
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Who changed the title of the thread? Without even stating the reason to do so or asking the contributors to the thread... Great example of democracy!
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Old March 12th, 2007, 05:03 PM   #823
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I think the Dev. news format will be the new standard - or at least that's my understanding by looking at the 'Highrise News and Developments' page - That said, London and New-york still have the old 'full summary of project' tagline; surely, that has to be changed too?
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Old March 13th, 2007, 12:14 AM   #824
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The Official height of the new AXA tower is 240 m with the spire (275 m above the sea level)


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Old March 13th, 2007, 01:52 AM   #825
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Other pic of New Axa Tower actually u/c


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Rendering of the base


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Old March 13th, 2007, 03:55 AM   #826
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I would love to see Jacques Ferrier's project at La Defense.
A really good sign for environmental issues since this building is creating 70% of its energy needed!

Check this 1 minute movie, it's really spectacular! (former Tour Phare proposal)

http://www.jacques-ferrier.com/tourphare.swf
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Old March 13th, 2007, 06:25 AM   #827
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The Official height of the new AXA tower is 240 m with the spire (275 m above the sea level)


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That looks a lot like Bank of America Tower U/C in New York, especially near the top
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Old March 13th, 2007, 07:10 AM   #828
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That looks a lot like Bank of America Tower U/C in New York, especially near the top
eh? Not quite
The only thing they have in common is that they have a spire and a glass panel
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Old March 13th, 2007, 08:28 PM   #829
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According the magazine of haut de seine "92 Express" the height of tour signal should be around 300m (a third supertall for Paris)

Tour Signal will be the sister of Tour Phare.
Article warning,the height of this PDf is 9 Mb

And an official source from the senat
From the start of the plan Defense 2015 Tour Signal and Tour Phare was distinct.

Sorry it is in french because I am lazy.

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Afin de « relancer » le quartier, le directeur général de l'EPAD a proposé le 2 décembre 2005 au conseil d'administration de l'établissement le Projet « La Défense 2015 », plan de développement prévoyant notamment la construction de 850.000 m² de bureaux et 100.000 m² de nouveaux logements, l'édification de deux tours de plus de 300 mètres de haut (Tour Signal et Tour Phare) et la rénovation de tours existantes.
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Old March 13th, 2007, 08:48 PM   #830
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AXA tower will look awesome!!
Thanks for sharing the pics
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Old March 14th, 2007, 01:51 AM   #831
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The news from Minato Ku seems to be confirmsed by other sources.

Apparently, a third supertall, tour Signal, is announced at the Mipim currently happening in Cannes. It will be a mixed-use tower, hosting offices, appartments and services.


Source: http://www.rivierabiz.com/wtm_article43006.fr.htm
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MIPIM 2007 - La Défense veut donner le signal de la vie

Le renouveau urbain de La Défense est en vedette sur le MIPIM qui se déroule jusqu’au 16 mars à Cannes. Un renouveau qui sera marqué par la construction de deux nouvelles tours emblématiques, qui flirteront avec les 300 mètres, mais également d’une Tour Signal qui fera prochainement l’objet d’un appel à projet.

Une tour qui marquera un peu une rupture avec La Défense actuelle puisqu’elle sera mixte et que les bureaux voisineront avec des logements et des services. Le symbole, pour Bernard Bled, Directeur de l’EPAD, d’un nouvel espace de vie pour La Défense qui devrait à terme compter 23 000 habitants et 200 000 salariés.
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MIPIM 2007 - La Défense wants to give the signal to life

The urban renewal of La Défense is the star of the MIPIM which is currently held in Cannes untill March 16th. A renewal which is scored by the construction of two symbolic towers reaching 300 meters, but also a Tour Signal which will soon be called for an architectural contest.

A tower which will represent a rupture to nowadays La Défense since it will be of mixed use and hence will host not only offices but also residential appartments and services. The symbol for Bernard Bled, the manager of the EPAD, of a new living space for La Défense which should count in the future no less than 23,000 residents and 200,000 workers.
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Old March 14th, 2007, 11:35 PM   #832
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2 new towers in la défense!

architect, height, design not yet known

here two pics from the exhibition in la défense made by Krapulax from PSS



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Old March 15th, 2007, 05:14 AM   #833
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Another organic tower for Paris
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Old March 15th, 2007, 10:27 PM   #834
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Webmasters at the official La Défense website have posted a view of La Défense showing the new towers already approved.

From left to right, you can see the new Axa Tower, the Generali Tower, and the "tour Phare". The blue shapes are the other towers which are planned but for which no render is yet available (architect contests are being launched).

The Generali Tower is taller than the "tour Phare", and should actually be the tallest skyscraper in the European Union, but on this picture the "tour Phare" appears taller. That's because La Défense is basically a hill, and "tour Phare" is towards the top of the hill, whereas the Generali Tower is towards the bottom of the hill.

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Old March 15th, 2007, 10:38 PM   #835
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generali ou phare approuvées? il n'y a aucun permis de construire accordé que je ne sache...
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Old March 16th, 2007, 02:14 AM   #836
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Permis de construire = building permit, for those who don't speak French. In this case the buildings were approved by the French government last July, and the particular designs of each tower were selected after architect contests last year, so the buildings are fully approved. The building permit, which is an official paper issued by the prefect of Hauts-de-Seine, is really a mere formality at this stage. Of course approved doesn't mean it is 100% certain to be built. A building can be approved and later cancelled, that's always a posibility. It's like the London Bridge Tower which was approved but is now at risk of being cancelled. In La Défense that's what could happen if the Socialists win power next June and suddenly decide to cancel everything, or if the developers go bankrupt and have to cancel everything. But most likely these buildings will be built. It's quite another matter with buildings such as the "tour signal" which haven't been fully approved yet.
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Old March 16th, 2007, 02:36 AM   #837
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Approuvé c'est un permis de construire affiché. Là elle est proposée avec des grandes chances d'être approuvée. Le concours d'architecture n'est pas un processus de validation du projet, mais du choix d'un projet, ça n'a rien à voir. Maintenant je ne sais pas s'il y a une définition claire de ce que l'on considère comme "approuvée".
Des tours comme celles que l'on imagine à Bercy, ou hypergreen ZAC RG, ce sont des visions, comme le premier projet de Gautrand pour le pont d'Issy.
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Old March 16th, 2007, 02:37 AM   #838
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Permis de construire = building permit, for those who don't speak French. In this case the buildings were approved by the French government last July, and the particular designs of each tower were selected after architect contests last year, so the buildings are fully approved. The building permit, which is an official paper issued by the prefect of Hauts-de-Seine, is really a mere formality at this stage. Of course approved doesn't mean it is 100% certain to be built. A building can be approved and later cancelled, that's always a posibility. It's like the London Bridge Tower which was approved but is now at risk of being cancelled. In La Défense that's what could happen if the Socialists win power next June and suddenly decide to cancel everything, or if the developers go bankrupt and have to cancel everything. But most likely these buildings will be built. It's quite another matter with buildings such as the "tour signal" which haven't been fully approved yet.
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la seule tour "menacée" pourrait être la tour signal abritant le ministère de l'équipement, pour les autres je les vois mal annuler des tours de 900 et 400 millions d'euros financées par des fonds privés qui vont générer des emplois supplémentaires dans le domaine du batiment...
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Old March 16th, 2007, 02:47 AM   #839
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la seule tour "menacée" pourrait être la tour signal abritant le ministère de l'équipement, pour les autres je les vois mal annuler des tours de 900 et 400 millions d'euros financées par des fonds privés qui vont générer des emplois supplémentaires dans le domaine du batiment...
Well, we're in the world forum, so it's better to speak in English.

Anyway, what you say is true. I don't believe Majunga, Phare and Generali could be threatened in case the left wins the elections. However, I've read in the news that no less than 15 skyscrapers are programmed untill 2013. As such, even if the three mentionned towers shouldn't be cancelled, we can imagine the program would still be reduced for the other towers.

Now, there's no reason to panic about this. We'll see what will happen.
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la seule tour "menacée" pourrait être la tour signal abritant le ministère de l'équipement, pour les autres je les vois mal annuler des tours de 900 et 400 millions d'euros financées par des fonds privés qui vont générer des emplois supplémentaires dans le domaine du batiment...
Giscard cancelled the skyscraper projects in La Défense when he became president in 1974 if I remember correctly, so it is absolutely possible for the next president to cancel these projects. Of course, these are private projects, with private money, but the next government could pass a special law that makes it impossible for these towers to be built. It is quite doable, legally speaking. I'm not saying that that's what they'll do, I'm just saying that you have to be naive to imagine that a government cannot prevent these towers from being built.
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