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Old January 14th, 2016, 04:22 PM   #9001
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good news from the developper of hermitage plaza.
he has confirmed yesterday in his blog that all the legal claims against the demolition permits have now been rejected!!!

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Old January 14th, 2016, 07:02 PM   #9003
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It's a good development but paris faces a very difficult task trying to catch up with the tech hubs in london and Berlin where such things began happening many years ago, I wish them luck tho as it would be good for europe to have 3 'or more' international level tech hubs instead of 2
Paris is already a huge tech hub, but thank you for your sweet thoughts !
Let me remind or knowledge you that the second biggest delegation at the Las Vegas tech fair, taking place this month, is the french one , way before Germany and U.K !
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It's a good development but paris faces a very difficult task trying to catch up with the tech hubs in london and Berlin where such things began happening many years ago, I wish them luck tho as it would be good for europe to have 3 'or more' international level tech hubs instead of 2
Well Paris creates more start-ups than London and Berlin.

And in the coming months will open the bigger incubator in Europe in Paris Nord, and then the Halle Freyssinet, the bigger in the world.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 07:16 PM   #9005
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It's a good development but paris faces a very difficult task trying to catch up with the tech hubs in london and Berlin where such things began happening many years ago, I wish them luck tho as it would be good for europe to have 3 'or more' international level tech hubs instead of 2

This is just about the startup which basically means beginner company -a too much hyper world for something that have always existed- Those are of course welcomed and bring fresh air and competition to established business. Having a lot of startups is good, having a large share of them being oriented toward hi-tech and being successful is another story. And overall France is doing quite well in that field (just have to look at the share of French start up among others at the Las Vegas even)t. And techs hubs hopefully doesn't limits itself to newcomers. And in that regard Paris has nothing to envy to its European competitors, neither London or Berlin
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This is just about the startup which basically means beginner company -a too much hyper world for something that have always existed- Those are of course welcomed and bring fresh air and competition to established business. Having a lot of startups is good, having a large share of them being oriented toward hi-tech and being successful is another story. And overall France is doing quite well in that field (just have to look at the share of French start up among others at the Las Vegas even)t. And techs hubs hopefully doesn't limits itself to newcomers. And in that regard Paris has nothing to envy to its European competitors, neither London or Berlin
I cant make a positive post without inviting city vs city it seems, oh well, just please dont lie. Paris tech seen is well documented as being a long way behind europes biggest tech hubs, london and berlin. This is very well known and been discussed by economists, politicians media etc as you well know. London also has more start ups than paris and that is also known to anybody that can use Google. No need to turn an innocuous post into some city vs city all the time, it's so tiresome and so I won't indulge you this time .
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Instead of "as you well know", some sourcing would be appreciated to discuss, instead of throwing personal opinions.

https://www.rudebaguette.com/2013/07...is-the-battle/

Paris 2014 VS London Tech City: The Battle (& the fact-checking).

Jul 1, 2013


The following is a guest post by Jeanne Dussueil, which originally appeared in French on Challenges.fr – you can follow her on twitter at @jdussueil

Will Paris soon be more attractive for startups than London? Since 2010, London has been making a song and dance about its “Tech City” in the area of the old “tea houses”, in East London. But rapidly, the ‘Grande Nation’ had to take actions to respond to the British project. A few months ago the French minister for digital, innovation and SME’s Fleur Pellerin announced the creation of a new digital neighborhood in the capital in 2014. The race has now officially begun and the rivalry between the British city and the French one continues to grow. In order to catch up with its British counterparts, Paris dares today to position itself as the place to be for young innovative companies.

To find out which of the two capitals could actually be declared as the winner of this 21st century battle, I recently took a trip to London Tech City. As a previous Londoner – and today a true Parisian – I also arranged a couple of interviews with the official spokesmen for innovation of Paris in order to have, as much as I could, well-balanced evidence from both sides.

The village and the City

Let’s set the facts straight from the beginning: Paris feels small faced with its big neighbor seen from abroad as if four or five suburbs of Paris would be aggregate in the same area. First of all, the demographics of the two towns are different: 7 million inhabitants in London against 2.2 million in inner Paris. To compete properly, the ‘city of Love’ would need to advance the arm of the ‘Grand Paris’ which will sooner or later include the closest suburbs. But this is not the case in the French capital yet: ‘Paris is ten times smaller than Inner London (about 100km2 against 1000km2). “The true comparison must be made between the Paris metropolis and London”, begins Jean-Louis Missika, the French counsellor of innovation for Paris. Despite being faced with this harsh truth, it is still possible to compare the two cities via social criteria for startups: where there is the most positive energy, innovation, urban solidarity (housing and transports), social diversity, etc.

Which city has more startups and jobs?

On the side of Boris Johnson, Mayor of London, authorities claim there are 1,384 startups. Along the Seine river, the city announces ‘3,000 startups, 26 incubators supported by the council and 12 private incubators’. And wants to differentiate itself with the British concurrent: ‘We have decided to play the diversity card. Our incubators are backed by scientific centers (institut de la Vision, institut Langevin) or by the ‘Grandes Ecoles’- which provided the engineers – insists the Paris spokesman. London retorts with the figure of 30 incubators. And lots of ‘coworking spaces’. Hence, in this battle of figures, the advantage goes to Paris.

Except if we take into account the estimation of think tank Centre for London who have evaluated that 3,800 companies have arrived bringing no less than 48,000 workers to East London. But let’s compare how the two cities want to seduce the whole world with their digital guides


No more private funds for startup because of UK’s recession

In 2012, the UK had 25,000 private business angels, against 8,000 in France, according to the European Centre CSES. ‘The English have more business angels but with the new owners of the web (Jacques-Antoine Granjon, Xavier Niel, – both founders of big internet french companies Vente-privee.com and telecom company Free -…) who invest in startups, we are beginning to have a generation of entrepreneurial investors. This is an important point that supports us’, concedes the innovation campaign adviser to the socialist candidate Anne Hidalgo who will fight against the UMP conservative party to keep the city at the left in the coming local election next spring 2014.

“The Tech City is a sham, they are in reality not established startups but mainly PR agencies, restaurants or artists”

So argues the young French minister Fleur Pellerin and socialist adviser Jean-Louis Missika, quoting the recent survey by the Guardian which has cracked the identify of startups in its CityMap . Thanks to their British stolidness, the leaders of the Tech City manage to control themselves from muttering ‘bullshit’… Perhaps be the rare sunshine gracing East London on that day helped? However, they simply deny to provide a list of companies registered.

Paris would therefore be crowned champion in terms of diversity of sectors represented by its innovative young-shoots. The city also knows how to use the wide range of activities by linking themselves to large companies from the ‘CAC40’ or incubator business leaders such as: JC Decaux for e-cities, Renault for mobility, or ‘Welcome City Lab’s incubators for tourism.

The town the more ‘tech’

‘We have more developers and more young people getting involved in the creation of enterprises in Paris’, confirms the French side.
An impossible claim to verify, as neither of the two cities has the figures to back it up. The British competitor adopted a same vague language: ‘it has surely brought several people over there’, assume Tech City’s supporters.

But another response to this, that of the startup Yammer (the Californian startup bought out by Microsoft in 2012), which is showed as a model to the press.

In their uber design offices, three young French people – of whom two are engineers – happily explain their arrival in London: they seized indeed ‘an extraordinary opportunity to work for an international enterprise.’

Creative brains available

On both sides of the Channel, French and British are praising the excellence of the education which surrounds startups. But the Parisians clearly disagree: ‘London is mono-activity, orientated towards finance only, with research and education centres (Oxford and Cambridge) removed from the capital, whereas the ‘Grandes Ecoles’ are central to Paris.’

On the other side, in the Tech City, London praises the fact that they are ‘no more than an hour away from two prestigious universities (UCL, Cambridge, even LSE in the heart of London)’. James, founder of the startup Open Signal, does not want to become auditor or economist and has headed straight towards the Tech City, with an Oxford diploma in his pocket.

French weapons : several french stimulus for startups


The so called ‘Crédit d’impôt recherche’ which is a diminution of taxes for companies who can prove a research activity and developments, and the JEI for Young Innovative Company are the main tools given to French startups to grow. More over, Paris wants to underline that London might not be the fiscal heaven some French entrepreneurs are dreaming of. After an entrepreneur’s riot born on the internet last October to fight a tax increase, the socialist government is showing understanding to business owners in order to avoid ships and planes of French citizens escaping to look for more favorable countries. ‘ London is not as favourable for startups as we usually think’, confirms French socialist Town Hall.

But near the Thame’s harbours, entrepreneurs are often celebrating the recent tax cut for companies decided by Cameron’s government from 28% to 20%. And if you mention to them all the fiscal stimulus settled by French government, they barely pay attention: ‘We do not want public finances anywhere. Governments are not capable to understand the true needs of our sectors’, insists a British entrepreneur. ‘This is generally fiscally very positive here’, he is willing to add.

Meeting at 10. Downing Street

On the English side, Prime Minister David Cameron’s counsellors are forming a reputation of being very ‘open’ around entrepreneurs circles. Indeed, they regularly sit round the table at 10. Downing Street in order to be welcomed properly, especially if they’ve crossed the Atlantic, from the Silicon Valley to London’s Tech City. ‘At least here, there are no mixed messages between what we want, and what is voted in the French assembly at the same time, – which is still not favourable to entrepreneurs –‘ whispers a French communicant from British lobby UKTI (UK Trade & Investment) whose mission is to attract French business on the other side of the Channel.

Google’s favorite one

In Paris, Google will open a new private incubator named ‘Glii’ at the end of 2013, which will be their second incubator partnered with French startup accelerator Silicon Sentier.

In London, the American firm is planning another project: a new branch – specifically a UK only branch to be inaugurated in 2016/2017 – its announced capacity: 5,000 employees. In comparison, there are 500 ‘Googlers’ in Paris. In London, there is also the ‘Google Campus’ (visit here, in French) which is ‘unique and special’, glows Google UK who also opened another Campus in Tel Aviv in 2012. ‘In Paris or in Berlin, we’re only partners’, declares the American group.

The bridge with the Silicon Valley

One of the main priorities for Paris is also to allow young French people to set up subsidiaries in San Francisco. Besides, a partnership has been signed in Paris with the Californian city. Indeed, the gate to the U.S is a major priority for a startup, no matter where it is born. Based in London for two months, two French people from ‘BeMyWine’ have chosen to be pragmatic: “Here we are directly associated with the English language.’

Paris of the future VS London’s extension

Paris and London want to reproduce their innovation valley in other local towns. On the borders of the Seine, the project is centralised on the East area, where a huge hub is already planned.

In London, 290 million pounds (340 million euros) has been put towards the conversion of the 2012 Olympic Games site to a new urban zone dedicated to commerce, enterprise and housing. The ‘Media Center’ used by the press during the games will be reconverted to anew business centre which we be able to welcome certain young enterprises (principally media and digital).

Despite this, both share a common point: from one side and from the other, we admit that it is impossible to reproduce an identical model of the American Silicon Valley.

Which has the better reputation?

Paris and London both try to make a name for themself to attract investors and new enterprises. London does surely have an advantage thanks to its natural connections with the United States. Started in 2010, the British capital also has a clear vision of what it wants to build and, moreover, which image she wants to be well-known in the world.

Faced against those two rivals, Berlin is the other European capital which wants to impose itself in the world of startups. The German city has already earned a good reputation in the British pubs, where entrepreneurs of the Tech city finish their work day declaring: ‘We hear more about Berlin than Paris here’…

Truth is that the actual ‘battle’ is more a communication war that is currently offered successively by Paris, London, Berlin but also by other US and asian cities. Indeed, everyone knows that figures are not certain. But it is more about being attractive in the eyes of the best developers of the world.

For the governments, it is also a question about showing affection to this growing tribes of young entrepreneurs. With their regular and massive communication campaign on them, London and recently the New Yorker subway are in a better position than the French shyness. American entrepreneur Trista from Rude Baguette grumbled about it to me: ‘You’ve got a fantastic Chinese area in Paris, but you’d never communicate on it with pride by showing a Chinese-French entrepreneur on the walls of your subway for instance!’

More over, around startup creators, no one wants to defend their city as true ‘Parisian, Londoner or Berliner’. They just want to be free and encouraged as normal ‘Citizens of the world’ in order to grow in the market they’ve targeted.
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http://www.whiteboardmag.com/europea...moscow-berlin/

European startup scenes compared: Tel Aviv, London, Paris, Moscow, Berlin

How do European startup hubs rank in the world? Not spectacularly, it turns out. Only two European ‘hubs’ make the top ten – Tel Aviv (2) and London (7). The rest of the top 10 are US or Canadian. Berlin, for all the recent hype about competing with London as the place to be to launch a company in Europe, finishes behind Paris. We highlight a few findings from the report, which you can download here.

TEL AVIV

Global rank: 2

Tell aviv has the highest density of startups in the world. There are also 63 Israeli companies listed on NASDAQ (more than Europe, Japan, Korea, India and China combined!). Almost 40 % of Israeli hi tech employees work in the R&D department of a multinational company like Intel, Microsoft, Cisco or Google, all of whom have subsidiaries in the country.

Tel Aviv has the highest output of startups and a healthy mix of startups in all stages. Importantly, Israel attracts a high number of immigrants. As the only “European” startup hub, Tel Aviv has no funding gap.

Risks:
The Tel Aviv scene is too dependent on tech-driven exits rather than on big market winners, the report warns, which could lead to a contraction or ossification of the scene. Also, the Israeli tech scene is behind Silicon Valley, the report warns.

LONDON

Global rank: 7

“The most successful startup ecosystem in Europe, producing the largest output of startups in the European Union by far, but its output is still 63 % lower than Silicon Valley”.

“The only comparable hub to SV. It offers a wide range of support networks, capital infrastructure and diverse talent.”

London is the female tech entrepreneur capital of Europe. It has the highest proportion of female tech entrepreneurs in Europe (although it’s still only 9 percent.

Risks:

Funding gap, probably caused by a lack of super angels and micro VC’s. London entrepreneurs are more risk averse than SV counterparts, and are more likely to be consulting next to their activity as entrepreneurs. London entrepreneurs are “slow in adopting mobile”.

PARIS

Global rank: 11

Paris startups are a lot more focused on B2B than SV entrepreneurs. On the downside, the Paris startup community is “not much of a magnet for out of town entrepreneurs. France and Paris has a long way to go in this area to be able to compete with London and Berlin.”

In general, attracting immigrant talent is a problem in Europe, it seems. This is a sentiment that was also expressed by Alex Brabers of GIMV at a recent VC panel debate in Brussels: he said much of the success of Silicon Valley was achieved thanks to immigrants from India and China, and it was just too hard for European companies to attract foreign talent – or for foreign founders to start a company in Europe.

Risks

Just like most other European startup scenes, Paris has a significant funding gap in the later stages: 95 % less capital in stage 3 (efficiency) and stage 4 (scale) than Silicon Valley startups. Funding in Paris relies more on incubators and self funding than on VC’s and angels.

Memorable quote from the report:

“Seen from abroad, France is the last country an entrepreneur wants to go”

Marc Simoncini, Jaïna Capital. (ouch!)

MOSCOW


Global rank: 14

There are more entrepreneurs with Master degrees than in Silicon Valley, but also more dropouts who are entrepreneur. Moscow startups are less ambitious in the markets they tackle than Silicon Valley startups, and funding is far more reliant on friends and family money than on VC’s and angels.

Risks
Again, Moscow startups face a significant funding gap before and after going to market. Moscow startups receive 93 % less funding in stage 2, 94% less in stage 3, and 76% less in stage 4.

Moscow startup founders are in general a lot younger than their SV counterparts, meaning there is no health mix of experienced and inexperienced entrepreneurs in Moscow.

BERLIN

Global rank: 15

Berlin is “a magnet for worldwide entrepreneurs and investors”, like Alexander Ljung and Edial Dekker of Gidsy. Berlin even “feels like a startup itself”. Berlin is certainly trying hard to beat its drum lately, what with the arrival of a Pier 38-like tech hub ‘The Factory’. Geographically, its location is interesting – it’s more peripheral than Paris or London, but it does have better access to the Russian and Eastern European markets, which are less mature than the Western European markets.

Berlin has a healthy mix of early stage and late stage startups, but the report does ask whether Berlin will be able to live up to its hype, since it produceces 88% less startups than Silicon Valley. (Rude Baguette’s Liam Boogar thinks Berlin is too much hype and too little substance, but he’s paid to favor Paris over Berlin, after all ). Office space is cheap in Berlin.

Risks

Funding gap in the validation stage and after going to market, with almost 80% less capital raised than in Silicon Valley. The Berlin startup scene is more reliant on FFF money and bank loans than on VC’s and angels.

OVERALL CONCLUSIONS FOR THE EUROPEAN STARTUP SCENE

First, it’s clear that Europe’s tech scene faces a big funding gap. With the exception of Tel Aviv, every European tech hub has significantly less money flowing into the startup scene than Silicon Valley.

This has direct consequences on the ability to create big exits, as Axel Brabers of GIMV explained at a VC panel debate last week: “Getting a company to the exit costs a great deal of money.” Unfortunately, it’s only in the later stages and even post-IPO that companies create most labor, he added, so it’s something the European scene urgently needs.

European startups raise up to 94 % less capital in all stages of the startup lifecycle than their Silicon Valley counterparts. The report doesn’t explain whether this is because of a lack of active VC’s (like some VC’s think), or because of a difficulty for European startups to scale – it’s probably a vicious circle effect of both.

Second, European entrepreneurs are still a lot less ambitious and focused than their counterparts in Silicon Valley. European entrepreneurs are a lot more likely to do some consulting on the side than their Silicon Valley counterparts, even in London, which has a very decent startup scene. This is understandable, given how difficult it is to raise money in Europe (‘the funding gap’). Even dry freezed noodles cost money – but it will necessarily have an impact on the product and the speed of execution.
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And last : European Digital City Index 2015 https://digitalcityindex.eu/city/4

LONDON N°1/35 FOR STARTUPS

London was widely expected to be near the top of this Index, given its position as a European economic powerhouse. The city’s substantial financial sector is undoubtedly a major benefit: not only is London’s venture capital industry the most developed in Europe, but the presence of many financial services firms helps promote a growing number of fintech and crowdfunding startups, like Seedrs, Funding Circle, Transferwise, Wonga and DueDil. London is also the accelerator and coworking capital of Europe, as well as boasting a number of world-class universities. Its vibrant startup scene is supported by a strong creative cluster around ‘Silicon Roundabout’. However, in other ways, London is a victim of its own success: attracting talent from the rest of the UK and overseas has pushed up housing and office rental costs. West London now contains some of the most expensive real estate in the world. Competition between firms also means that salaries for talent, particularly with digital skills, are significantly higher than elsewhere.

PARIS N°6/35 FOR STARTUPS

Paris is indisputably one of Europe's most economically powerful cities. It ranks sixth in our Index for both startups and scale-ups. This high ranking is due, in part, to a well-developed venture capital industry and several world-class research institutions, together with an increasing number of co-working spaces and accelerators. The ecosystem is also aided by communities such as France Digitale and publicly-funded La French Tech which aim to foster collaboration and raise the profile of French startups. Nesta's CITIE report ranked Paris a top frontrunner, higher even than San Francisco in terms of the policy environment.

The city has produced well-known success stories such as BlaBlaCar and Criteo, showing its strength as a centre of the emerging 'sharing economy'. Nevertheless, market conditions could be more favourable: adoption of many digital technologies is slower in France than in several other European countries. In addition, living in Paris is quite expensive, providing a further obstacle to some entrepreneurs.

BERLIN N°7/35 FOR STARTUPS

Berlin is known worldwide as a cultural and economic hub, and it is unsurprising that features in the top-10 of this Index. Its numerous theatres, museums, galleries and music clubs attract tourists from all over the world, while the relatively cheap living and rental costs draw in both artistic and entrepreneurial talent.

Berlin’s economy is not as dependent on an industrial sector as other German cities, but rather builds on its diverse creative sector. Many startups have emerged from this creative scene and their proliferation is impressive: in 2010 there were already 42,700 recorded startups, which translates to 124 companies for every 10,000 inhabitants (Grunden report).

Startup activity is largely clustered around the Torstrasse, a boulevard sometimes referred to as ‘Silicon Ally’. Hubs such as Factory Berlin, a Google-backed co-working space which calls itself ‘Germany's largest startup campus’, and Betahaus contribute to the growth of the Berlin startup ecosystem.

Some may be surprised that Berlin is not ranked even more highly, given the notable startups it has produced. However, the city is let down slightly by its digital infrastructure score and high cost of labour.
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I cant make a positive post without inviting city vs city it seems, oh well, just please dont lie. Paris tech seen is well documented as being a long way behind europes biggest tech hubs, london and berlin. This is very well known and been discussed by economists, politicians media etc as you well know. London also has more start ups than paris and that is also known to anybody that can use Google. No need to turn an innocuous post into some city vs city all the time, it's so tiresome and so I won't indulge you this time .
Edit. Meant for c3b1. Sorry arno

Again this thread is "Paris,projets & constructions "
not a comparison with London that we do not care royally.
That is enough now

stop that posts and others out of the thread should be systematically removed.
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I cant make a positive post without inviting city vs city it seems, oh well, just please dont lie. Paris tech seen is well documented as being a long way behind europes biggest tech hubs, london and berlin. This is very well known and been discussed by economists, politicians media etc as you well know. London also has more start ups than paris and that is also known to anybody that can use Google. No need to turn an innocuous post into some city vs city all the time, it's so tiresome and so I won't indulge you this time .
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Your first post is, of course, not positive at all, and you perfectly know that.
Can you take your cute sweet city out of this thread please?
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^ Stop spilling nonsense please. First, Berlin has a jobless rate of 10,1 percent (source).
It managed to bring its finances in order in recent years. Please remember the immense problems that came with the WW2 destruction and post-war division of the city, that just ended 25 years ago. Berlin is growing together slowly. This is a unique process in the world, unprecedented.

The city's GDP is growing constantly and its attracting some of the best people and profiled hight tech companies and researchers in the world. It'll find its way for sure, it just takes some time. It's catching up with other western metropolises, but it's coming from a lower starting point. And btw, Berlin collects more startup venture capital than both London and Paris, so obviously investors have more confidence in its potential.
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Berlin is a big village without any interest !
Jerokome, don't be that rude, Berlin may not be Paris, but the German model of middle sized cities with a lot of power have proven to be better than the centralized system we have here with an enormous head and some weakness for the body. To say that Berlin is not interesting or just a "small village" is rude and prove you haven't been here.

Also i've been to Berlin (great memories btw), and while this is clearly not Paris, this is not small at all, this is a very vibrant and interesting city ! Don't forget that It was on the former RDA which mostly explain why Berlin lag behind other German cities which were in the rich RFA. And despite being under commies rules for decades, the city has come a looong way since reunification. Also the discussion was not about the size and general economics, but about the startup over hyped thing.
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