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Old May 4th, 2007, 05:21 PM   #961
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Now that the dust has settled a bit, I think it's time to make a new general summary of skyscraper projects in Paris. Note that as usual only buildings taller than 150 m (492 ft) are listed. As explained already in post #887, there are many more office and residential developments planned or under construction in Greater Paris, so this list here is only just the tip of the iceberg. If other French forumers want to list projects under 150 m (such as tour Mozart or the Gehry's Louis Vuitton Foundation for Creation in the Bois de Boulogne, please do not hesitate).

Already built: 12
  • 12 skyscrapers above 150 m (492 ft) in La Défense and city proper (not including Eiffel Tower)

Under construction: 5
  • New Axa Tower (in La Défense): 240 m (780 ft), 56 floors, 86,707.1 m² (933,307.5 sq. ft), to be delivered by the end of 2009-beginning of 2010
  • T1 Tower (in La Défense): 187,5 m (615 ft), 39 floors, 65,651 m² (706,661 sq. ft), to be delivered in February 2008
  • Granite Tower (in La Défense): 183 m (600 ft), 37 floors, 68,000 m² (732,000 sq. ft), to be delivered in March 2008
  • Levallois Twin Towers (in Levallois-Perret): 2 x 165 m (2 x 541 ft), 2 x 42 floors, 110,000 m² (1.2 million sq. ft) in total, to be delivered in June 2009

Proposed and/or approved: 6
  • Generali Tower (in La Défense): 318 m (1,043 ft), 56 floors, 90,000 m² (970,000 sq. ft), to be delivered in 2011
  • tour Phare (in La Défense): ca. 300 m (1,000 ft), ca. 70 floors, 130,000 m² (1.4 million sq. ft), to be delivered in 2012
  • Air² Tower (in La Défense): 200-220 m (650-700 ft), 43 floors, 75,000 m² (800,000 sq. ft), part of La Défense revival stage 1 to be completed by 2013
  • Majunga Tower (in La Défense): ca. 195 m (640 ft), ca. 45 floors, 65,400 m² (704,000 sq. ft), to be delivered in 2011
  • D2 Tower (in La Défense): ca. 170 m (560 ft), 33 floors, 55,000 m² (592,000 sq. ft), part of La Défense revival stage 1 to be completed by 2013
  • Carpe Diem Tower (in La Défense): ca. 150 m (500 ft). Not much is known about this one, it appeared in a rendering published on the official website of La Défense. Height could be around 150 meters. Part of La Défense revival stage 1 to be completed by 2013.

In the pipeline:
  • tour Signal (in La Défense): ca. 300 m (1,000 ft), 100,000 m² (1.1 million sq. ft). EPAD, the authority managing La Défense, confirmed that tour Signal is not the same as tour Phare. It should be an outstanding tower in every respect (design, green technologies), and above all it will be the first mixed-use skyscraper in La Défense, with residential, commercial, and office space. An architect contest will be launched before the summer, and the winning project will be selected before the end of the year (2007). It is possible that Ferrier's 333m tower, which lost the contest for the tour Phare, will compete again. A few months ago there were hints that EPAD promised Ferrier that his tower would be built in La Défense, after Ferrier protested against the way Thom Mayne had been chosen for the tour Phare. Time will tell.
  • Ministry of Public Works Tower (in La Défense): 100,000 m² (1.1 million sq. ft), so possibly around 300 m too. The Ministry of Public Works is planning to build this skyscraper by the Rose de Cherbourg interchange, along the Boulevard Circulaire. This is to the south of La Défense (i.e. to the left of the main axis as seen from the Arc de Triomphe). Currently, the ministry is housed inside the Grande Arche of La Défense and in various mid-rises. They want to move out of the Grande Arche as soon as possible, and reunite all their departments inside this single tower. It is not known whether this skyscraper is the same as the tour Signal (the number of square meters is identical). Tour Signal is meant to be a mixed-use tower, so it seems unfit for a ministry, but information is scarce to be honest, so both towers could be the same after all. In any case, this ministry tower will be highly dependent on the results of the French presidential election. Should the left win, they will probably move the ministry to the eastern suburbs of Paris near the School of Public Works already located there (although the ministry staff is completely opposed to that), whereas if the right win the ministry will most probably build this tower in La Défense.
  • possible 400 m (1,300 ft) skyscraper (in La Défense). On all the renderings published by EPAD this skyscraper has always appeared near the Pacific Building, i.e. immediately to the left of the Grande Arche (as seen from the Arc de Triomphe), whereas tour Phare is immediately to the right of the Grande Arche. This supertall would be built above a big interchange of the Circular Boulevard. Of all the towers planned in La Défense, this one is probably the most sensitive to political changes. My personal understanding is that should Nicolas Sarkozy win the presidential election, this tower is more likely to be built than if Ségolène Royal wins, judging from their parties' position on La Défense's re-development plan. Again, time will tell.
  • Two, three or four skyscrapers containing 300,000 m² (3.2 million sq. ft) of office space in total (plus an unknown number of residential and commercial space) should be built on currently empty lots in La Défense before 2013 according to the official re-development plan. Tour Phare and tour Signal are probably among them. The 400 m supertall would also probably be among them if it comes to life. As for the Ministry of Public Works Tower, it is not known whether it is counted among them, or if it's a special case outside of the official re-development plan.
  • 8 or 9 old derelict towers containing about 325,000 m² (3.5 million sq. ft) of office space should be demolished and 8 or 9 towers containing 475,000 m² (5.1 million sq. ft) of office space should be built before 2013 to replace them. The difference in square meters is 150,000 m² (i.e. developers are allowed to destroy 8 or 9 old towers and rebuild 8 or 9 new towers with an added surface of 150,000 m²). The heights of these new towers should be between 150 m (500 ft) and 250 m (800 ft). Air² Tower, Majunga Tower, D2 Tower, and Carpe Diem Tower are probably among these 8 or 9 towers to be built. Generali Tower and New Axa Tower are probably not among them, since they were decided before the La Défense re-development plan was officially announced last year, but that's just my personal understanding. So that means there would still remain 4 or 5 new towers to be revealed.
  • Skycrapers in the City of Paris. This was last year's big news. After the Montparnasse Tower and several other shorter towers built in the 1970s, skyscrapers could make a comeback in the City of Paris proper. Goaded by rival projects in La Défense (outside of the City of Paris's jurisdiction) as well as in London, Madrid or Milan, the Socialist mayor of Paris has reacted and let it known that he's in favor of building tall office towers with outstanding aesthetic design inside the City of Paris. The Greens, a key ally of the Socialists (the Socialists don't have a majority without the Greens), are fiercely opposed to skyscrapers, and the opposition (the right) have mixed feelings (not opposed in principle, but opposed somehow, because, well, it's the role of the opposition to oppose). A majority of the City of Paris's residents, shocked by the ugly towers built in the 1970s, are also said to oppose the construction of skyscrapers. Nonetheless the mayor and his Socialist colleagues are pushing ahead with their skyscraper projects.

    A so-called High-rise Committee (comité des grandes hauteurs) was set up by the municipality. It is headed by Jean-Pierre Caffet, deputy mayor in charge of urbanism. Last January the committee selected three locations where these skyscrapers could be built: Porte de la Chapelle (18th arrondissement), Porte de Bercy (12th arrondissement), and Quai d'Ivry (13th arrondissement). Then in February the committee picked 12 architect firms and 2 research consultancy firms to study the feasibility and the impact of building towers on the sites selected by the committee, as well as to propose towers to be built on the selected sites. The architects and consultancy firms were divided in three teams (or rather three "workshops", the official jargon used by the Socialist municipality). Architect François Leclercq and Spanish architects Iñaki Abalos and Juan Herreros are working on the Porte de la Chapelle location. Architect Yves Lion is coordinating the "workshop" working on the Quai d'Ivry location. Three French architect firms (Jacques Ferrier, Eric Lapierre and Anne Demians), as well as the Berlin firm Matthias Sauerbruch & Louisa Hutton, are taking part in this "workshop". Finally, the Porte de Bercy "workshop" is made up of Nicolas Michelin & Associates, Michel Delplace, Tretout, and Austrian firm Dietmar Feichtinger Architects.

    The three "workshops" are due to submit their studies and projects this coming June. Le Monde revealed in January that city hall is thinking of a 200 m (660 ft) luxury hotel at the Porte de Bercy. This would be the tallest tower built inside the City of Paris since the Montparnasse Tower, and with almost the same height as the Montparnasse Tower. We'll find out more in June.
  • 246 m (807 ft) Hypergreen Tower: local authorities in Issy-les-Moulineaux have repeatedly said that they are interested in having this green technology skyscraper built in their Val-de-Seine media district, located just by the border of the City of Paris's 15th arrondissement. It was thought that France Telecom would build the Hypergreen Tower, but so far no decision has been taken. The Hypergreen Tower was also proposed on the Avenue de France in the City of Paris's 13th arrondissement, near the Quai d'Ivry. The architect who designed the Hypergreen Tower is Jacques Ferrier, and it is no coincidence that Jacques Ferrier was selected as a member of the Quai d'Ivry "workshop" (read above). Other local councils surrounding the City of Paris are also said to be interested in the Hypergreen Tower.
  • Two 180 m (590 ft) towers in Issy-les-Moulineaux: these have long been announced by the Issy Bridge (near the Val-de-Seine media district), and there were even some renderings by architect Emmanuelle Gautrand, but apparently everything was scrapped and now Issy-les-Moulineaux's local council has launched a new architect contest for the Issy Bridge area. The contest is for the construction of a of 150,000 m² (1.6 million sq. ft) office and residential high-rise complex at the entrance of the Issy Bridge. The developer is SEFRI-CIME. Architects taking part in the contest are: Emmanuelle Gautrand, Hasegawa, Richard Rogers, Valode & Pistre, and Wilmotte. Renderings were due by April 2007, but so far no rendering has yet emerged.
  • Two 160 m (525 ft) towers in Neuilly-sur-Seine: these are part of a larger urban project which would completely transform the approach to La Défense. The 8-lanes avenue linking La Défense and the City of Paris would be dug and covered, with the ground level restored as a real city avenue (and not the sort of motorway choked by cars that it is now). High-rise buildings, in particular these two 160 m towers, would be built across the Seine from La Défense to ensure a transition between mid-rise central Paris and the 200 m+ new towers of La Défense. A pedestrian bridge across the Seine would be built above the motorway bridge to link La Défense and Neuilly-sur-Seine. You can see renderings here. This project is very sensitive to political changes. If Nicolas Sarkozy (former mayor of Neuilly-sur-Seine) wins the presidential election, it is quite likely that the project will go ahead, whereas if Ségolène Royal wins it is quite likely that the project will be blocked (the Socialists are opposed to digging and covering the avenue-motorway, at a cost of 1 billion euros, which they see as preferential treatment to the rich people of Neuilly-sur-Seine).
  • Several local councils surrounding the City of Paris such as Saint-Denis, Saint-Ouen, Clichy, or Bagnolet, have repeatedly hinted they are planning to build skyscrapers on their territories. Saint-Ouen in particular is said to be well advanced in its projects. So far, however, no projects have been revealed. There were towers revealed in Saint-Denis near the Stade de France sport arena, but none of them is above 150 meters, so I'm not listing them here (if other forumers want to list them, please do so).

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Old May 4th, 2007, 05:53 PM   #962
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beau travail pour ton retour !!!
tu trouveras ici une liste que je réactualise souvent sur les projets architecturaux dignes d'intérêts à Paris et dans sa proche banlieue
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=133412
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Old May 4th, 2007, 07:09 PM   #963
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Thanx for your Rive Gauche pix Minato...i like them

this district will be really something special...not sure if some other districts in Europe has followed the same scale of development along a large avenue. sometimes the buildings are a bit boring though.
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Old May 4th, 2007, 07:39 PM   #964
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Nice update Brisavoine!
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Old May 6th, 2007, 07:56 PM   #965
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Who said that Paris is a museum city ?

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Paris Gives Itself a Futuristic Transplant



The Paris Rive Gauche development is connected to the Right Bank of the city by the Passerelle Simone de Beauvoir a 1,000-foot-long steel bridge.

By SAM LUBELL
Published: May 6, 2007
PARIS

TAKE a walk along the Seine in southeast Paris, about a mile east of Notre Dame Cathedral, and you’ll see a dense collection of boxy glass-and-steel office buildings, futuristic apartments, cleverly converted industrial structures, concrete mixers, forklifts and cranes. It’s what some consider a linchpin of Paris’s future: a huge development area on former industrial land and railway yards that could give a much-needed jolt to the city’s aging urban core.

Several prominent architects from France and other countries have had a hand in the project, whose building styles range from buttoned-up corporate to cutting-edge contemporary. Supporters laud the development, known as Paris Rive Gauche, as a futuristic alternative that could help revive the city’s economy and its struggling universities while creating much-needed housing.

But some in this always-opinionated city denounce it as a stale corporate wasteland. Not only does it lack neighborhood character, they say, but it is also gobbling up precious land that might be better devoted to parks, small shops and cultural spaces.

Either way it represents one of the last major zones for new development in a city whose boundaries, basically unchanged since the 19th century, have been filled to the limit.

The 321-acre project, in the making since 1990, brims with almost 100 office buildings, university facilities and apartment structures, about half completed. With its glassy new buildings and frenetic air of constant construction, the area seems more akin to Shanghai or some other city of cranes than the City of Light.

Most notably the goal is architectural variety. Unlike much of Paris, where buildings generally emulate one another on a given street, the area offers a broad mix of building styles. Although the various zones within the project must abide by height and massing regulations, there are relatively few design imperatives, and the master planning has been divvied among eight architects to ensure even greater diversity.

These include French architects like the Pritzker Prize winner Christian de Portzamparc, who planned the zone’s Masséna quarter; Paul Andreu, who mapped development on the Avenue de France, one of the site’s main commercial axes; and Bruno Fortier, who designed the Rue du Chevaleret, another major artery.

Gilles de Mont-Marin, deputy manager of Semapa, the development company overseeing the project, calls Paris Rive Gauche the most important development since Baron Haussmann transformed 19th-century Paris by carving out a network of broad avenues lined by blocks of mostly harmonious buildings. But there is a major difference, he says.

“We are not part of the Haussmannian fabric of Paris, and we think we have the right to have site-specific architecture,” he said. “The urban grid here is classical, but the architecture is exceptional.”

Whether this is the case is very much up for debate, but there are some striking results. Because Paris, with its dense historic center, is such a difficult place to win a design conmmission, the project is a huge opportunity, and most major French (and several international) architects have entered the fray by winning public competitions or signing on with developers. Among them are Norman Foster of Britain, Ricardo Bofill of Spain and luminous French names like Valode & Pistre, Chaix et Morel, Arte Charpentier, Jakob & MacFarlane, Rudy Ricciotti, Nicholas Michelin and Francis Soler.

Semapa, supervised jointly by the Paris city council and the French national railway, the S.N.C.F. (which owns about 80 percent of the land), has invested about $1.6 billion in infrastructure, subsequently selling land parcels to private and public entities. The project won city approval in 1991 after the city signed off on the construction of a large deck for development over the Gare d’Austerlitz station’s railyards and most of the mills and factories in the neighborhood had pulled out of town.

Divided into three zones — Austerlitz to the west, Tolbiac in the center and Masséna to the east — the development stretches from the Gare d’Austerlitz on its west end, to the Périphérique, Paris’s ring road, to the east. Completion is expected in about 10 years.

The newest buildings in the area, to the east, are generally the most adventurous, although some regard their grand gestures as overzealous at times. François Chochon’s Institut Jacques Monod, a biology research center for the University of Paris completed last year, consists of three slightly curved concrete structures, with unusually arranged horizontal window patterns, connected by a series of glass bridges along a lush raised courtyard. The street facades are fairly orthodox, but when viewed from the courtyard, their colored metallic elevations swoop dramatically.

Valode & Pistre’s new Center of Biotechnology Biopark involved renovating a 1980s building complex by covering it with dense undulating metallic trellises from which lush vegetation grows. A public housing project by the emerging firm Beckmann N’Thépé has a large “fault” at its center, allowing apartments more exposure to natural light. It narrows dramatically on its third floor, creating a raised courtyard between the building’s offset volumes. Portions of the building’s roof — largely covered with photovoltaic tiles to collect solar energy — are cut away to help provide daylight to small, slightly sunken rooftop gardens.

Spanning the Seine, and connecting the project to the Right Bank, is the Passerelle Simone de Beauvoir, a 1,000-foot-long steel bridge lined with oak planks by the Austrian architect Dietmar Feichtinger. Uninterrupted by pilings, it is designed in an intriguing figure-eight shape, a result of the intersection of its tensioned steel arch and convex suspension system.

Jean-Louis Cohen, a French architect and professor of architectural history at New York University, said he had been impressed by the project’s mixed uses and by its blend of architectural diversity and urban continuity, a goal that many believe has eluded developments with many big-name architects, like the plan for ground zero in New York.

Its contemporary aesthetic “gives the idea you can modernize Paris,” Mr. Cohen said.

Mr. Portzamparc said that while some Parisian urbanists were dismayed by the architectural variety, any attempt at classical harmony would be out of touch with the times. Like so many other world cities, he said, Paris is no longer homogeneous. “I sometimes say it is a zoo,” he said of the Masséna quarter. “A zoo can be interesting if you organize it well.”

Yet Axel Sowa, editor of the magazine Architecture d’Aujourd’hui, said he worried that the project had ignored the neighborhood that once existed here in favor of a large-scale urbanism: “formal, icy and not very convivial.”

Nonetheless a few buildings within Paris Rive Gauche literally draw from the past. In many instances old factory and mill buildings have been converted for university use. Mr. Ricciotti, winner of the French Grand Prix d’Architecture in 2006, transformed the colossal and surprisingly elegant 1921 Grand Moulins, or flour mills, with a mansard roof and neoclassical facade, into a library for the University of Paris 7. He painstakingly preserved most of the details, including the facade, concrete floors, beams and posts. Some floors were removed to open up the space, and metallic catwalks connect the building’s two main sections, which had been separated.

Next door Mr. Michelin designed a contemporary glass-and-steel classroom building for the University of Paris 7 inside the very utilitarian, exposed concrete “Halle aux Farines,” the Grand Moulin’s flour storage site. The designer Frédéric Borel has transformed a red-brick factory that once produced compressed air cartridges into the lofty new Paris Val-de-Seine Architecture School and built a tall, quirky addition, composed of white and gray vertical interlocking cubes, lifted on stilts.

Such work has helped generate buzz, and attract people, to an area that some proclaimed half-dead when Dominique Perrault completed his National Library of France there in 1995. Dominique Alba, director of the Pavillon d’Arsenal, the city’s contemporary architecture museum, said it had finally become “a real place in Paris.”

Françoise N’Thépé, a principal at Beckmann N’Thépé, described the project as “quite a good response” to the city’s situation. “The inside of Paris is paralyzed now, so it’s very useful to imagine new ways to regenerate,” she said. All the same, she added, it’s “not very visionary.” Mr. de Mont-Marin predicts that Rive Gauche will compete with La Défense, the giant business district to the west of Paris, to attract businesses and will ultimately fare better because it is inside the city and offers both housing and office space, giving Parisians the ability to live where they work.

Both districts may prove vital for this office-poor city as it competes for business with nearby European capitals that are taking similar steps to modernize and grow. Semapa predicts that the development will eventually serve as many as 30,000 students, 60,000 office workers and 5,000 residents.

But many feel the project is a costly denigration of Paris’s elegant urban core, citing, for example, the unadventurous, profit-conscious corporate projects lining the much-maligned Avenue de France and surrounds.

Even Mr. Foster, known for admired structures like the diamond-latticed Hearst Tower in New York and the pickle-shaped Swiss Re building in London, toned down the design of his office building, simply called France Avenue, for the large French developer Sorif. Although it has innovative elements, like movable shutters and an off-center roof plane, it looks more or less like a commonplace glass office building.

Mr. Portzamparc admits that the commercial portion of his zone, developed for companies like Banque Populaire and Accenture, is denser than he had wished. He said that fierce demands for a monetary return on the developer’s big investment forced compromise.

“With an urban plan you have to deal with so many people: politicians, urban planners, users, promoters, investors, other architects, other engineers,” he said. “If you retain 60 percent of your goals it’s a very good thing.”

The most enthusiastic reviews have generally been reserved for the site’s publicly financed university and public housing projects, which by law were chosen in a competition.

Others complain that, like La Défense, the area lacks the street life and sidewalk-level charm for which Paris is loved. At the moment there are few cafes, restaurants or small shops to speak of. “It looks good on paper as a plan, but at an experience level it leads to the same old thing: well done, well detailed, just dry,” said Brendan MacFarlane of Jakob & MacFarlane, which is building a fashion institute inside an old warehouse. “We need something richer on an urban level.”

Mr. de Mont-Marin counters that the social life will arrive when more buildings are completed. At the project’s outset members of the French Green Party sought to limit the scale of construction. That battle resulted in compromises, yielding 25 acres of green space. The project also dealt with concerns about affordable housing, which will make up about 50 percent of residential space, according to Semapa.

Now most of the complaints come from artists, many of whom moved into the area, often as illegal squatters, when factories first started moving out in the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s. One of the only remaining artistic bastions is a collective known as Les Frigos, inside a large former refrigeration building in the middle of the site. The group has survived several close calls (including a plan to reduce the structure’s size and another to replace it with a cultural building). But longtime members like Jacques Rémus, a composer, are pessimistic.

“The average price per square meter for the Frigos is around 50 euros,” he said. “New buildings cost 450 euros per square meter here. The pressure against us is too great,” Mr. Rémus said.

Mr. de Mont-Marin of Semapa, who insists that Les Frigos are safe from eviction, seems unfazed by criticism of Paris Rive Gauche. He said he was pleased that it had come this far, especially after uncertainty at the beginning, when tenants were slow to move in.

Mr. Cohen of New York University said that while Paris Rive Gauche was “not a total success,” it helps fill a void in modern amenities in Paris while still honoring a tradition of density and urbanity.

“There are some very good buildings,” he said. “There are some dumb glass boxes. But overall the level of professionalism and detailing is good.”

He mused, “I might be able to live there.”

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Old May 7th, 2007, 04:37 PM   #966
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So here we are, Nicolas Sarkozy, the center-right candidate, has been elected president of France. Some think it's good news for France, other think it's bad news, but what's certain is that it's excellent news for La Défense.

Nicolas Sarkozy, former mayor of Neuilly-sur-Seine (just across the Seine from La Défense), outgoing president of the Hauts-de-Seine departmental council (within which La Défense is located), and former chairman of EPAD, the authority managing La Défense, was the main supporter of the La Défense re-development project, whose first stage is due to be completed by 2013. Nicolas Sarkozy will be president of France at least until May 2012 (and perhaps beyond that date if he runs for a second term and is reelected), so he will oversee almost the entire stage 1 of the La Défense redevelopment plan.

With his election, it seems almost certain now that Generali Tower, tour Phare, and the still unknown tour Signal will be built (bar major disaster or economic recession). The Ministry of Public Works Tower is also almost certainly going to be built. As for the 400 m (1,300 ft) supertall, it's still too early to tell but with Sarkozy's victory yesterday I think this tower is now more likely than it has ever been since the cancellation of Jean Nouvel's tour sans fin in the 1990s. Finally, the urban projects in Neuilly, which I have explained in my message above, should also be carried out I believe (the digging and covering of the avenue-motorway most certainly, the building of the two 160 m towers it's still too early to tell).

Another thing to note is that Sarkozy got more votes than the Socialist candidate in the City of Paris yesterday, so there is a possibility that the Socialist-Green coalition ruling Paris will be ousted from city hall in the municipal elections next year, especially given that the center-right female candidate for the office of mayor, Ms Panafieu, will benefit from Sarkozy's election momentum. Her election, of course, would have tremendous impact on the current skyscraper projects in the City of Paris proper (not La Défense). The anti-skyscraper Greens would be out, but Ms Panafieu has always remained vague about her views on skyscrapers, whereas the current Socialist mayor is clearly in favor of building them, so it's hard to predict what a center-right victory would change. More importantly, the victory of Ms Panafieu would result in the first serious push for the creation of a Greater Paris, which she has clearly endorsed, and that is much more important than the issue of skyscrapers for the future of Paris of course. Anyway, as always, time will tell.

For those interested, I see there's a full article about the 2008 Paris municipal elections on Wikipedia:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89l...les_Paris_2008
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Picture taken by Hello-Jed from the medieval heart of Paris. T1 Tower (to the right of La Défense cluster) and Granite
Tower (to the left of the cluster) are both clearly visible in the skyline now.

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Old May 10th, 2007, 06:51 PM   #968
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is it possible that anyone can update emporis about paris?
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Old May 10th, 2007, 09:03 PM   #970
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PS I like highrise proposals for La Defense a lot. I only hope that in this race to become ultramodern, LD won't lose its original 70's style completely. It would be a pity to say good bye to some examples of good 70's architecture. Replacement of Tour Gan that I was just reading here about a few pages back, I'd personally find a damage do La Defense.
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Old May 11th, 2007, 06:24 PM   #971
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Old May 11th, 2007, 11:57 PM   #972
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Little montage made by JP where he added the new Axa Tower and Generali Tower to the picture I posted above.



Showing the same this time with the obelisk of the Concorde and the Champs-Elysées in the foreground.

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Is there any way to view planning applications for La Defense towers like with the ones in London?
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Yes, the towers both clearly visible now and what a density of towers there.
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Old May 14th, 2007, 03:32 AM   #975
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Is there any way to view planning applications for La Defense towers like with the ones in London?
I'm not sure what you're referring to.
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Old May 14th, 2007, 11:11 AM   #976
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Like, when a building is submited to the council for them to either cancel or approve, they will recieve the planning application. Are those available to view over the web in France?
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no... You've to go to cityhall...
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Old May 14th, 2007, 01:26 PM   #978
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Oh.. I'll have to pass then I'm afraid, I don't think I can afford to go to Paris just for that

Shame, you usually get lots of renderings etc... with them.
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Old May 14th, 2007, 04:49 PM   #979
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Like, when a building is submited to the council for them to either cancel or approve, they will recieve the planning application. Are those available to view over the web in France?
Local councils have no authority over La Défense. The area is a so-called National Interest Operation, meaning only the French central state approves the projects or not. The French central state gave its approval to the projects last July. If there were doubts that the election of a Socialist president would mean the state canceling the projects, these doubts have now been lifted with the victory of Nicolas Sarkozy. The local councils have no say in this matter.

Of course, the projects have to go through a formal administrative inquiry now, before the prefect of the Hauts-de-Seine département issues a building permit, but this is more of a formal and technical process than a real approval process. The real approval was given by the Minister of Public Works, Mr. Perben, last July. Private citizens may challenge the prefect in administrative courts if they oppose these skyscrapers. This may delay the projects, but it is extremely unlikely that the courts would cancel the projects. They may cancel the administrative process if the laws were not properly applied (e.g. if the prefect rushed the issuance of the building permit without allowing citizens the mandatory legal period to check developers' applications), meaning a new administrative process has to be undertaken, meaning added delays, but they may not cancel the projects.
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Oh OK. Thanks brisavoine
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