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Old October 8th, 2016, 11:31 PM   #10241
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hello what is shocking on this picture for you ? the five bulbs ? but this is the characteristic of an orthodox church !!
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Old October 8th, 2016, 11:33 PM   #10242
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Really hope this sh*t will be demolished
I'm afraid it's too late for demolition.
They should have thought before giving the construction permits. It looks so tacky.
I love Paris, I think the city deserved better than this, and not to forgot the years of waiting for two average buildings to tower over the rest of La Défense, and they haven't even started the construction. How were they called? Hermitage Plaza.
I'm sure they'll rename some centerpieces, too, for example their evolution tower, in the Louvre Plaza. I don't think so.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 11:56 PM   #10243
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hello what is shocking on this picture for you ? the five bulbs ? but this is the characteristic of an orthodox church !!
No. Orthodox churches do not always look like that. I can think of so many better examples.
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Old October 9th, 2016, 12:17 AM   #10244
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No. Orthodox churches do not always look like that. I can think of so many better examples.
but conventional architecture and not modern like this
you prefer a church like san basile on the red square in Moscow ?
don't forget its a church and not a shopping center !
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Sugar, I prefer none of those, especially not with the Eiffel tower somewhere close, like in this case. If you want to see a nice, genuine Orthodox church you should search google for some of the terracotta beauties on the south European coast. That's all.
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Old October 9th, 2016, 12:23 AM   #10246
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Old October 9th, 2016, 02:09 AM   #10247
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Old October 9th, 2016, 10:42 AM   #10248
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Comparing a brand new cultural center and its small church with authentic Orthodox cathedrals is a bit bold. We can't ask Athens to build Notre Dame next to the Acropole... I don't find the church tacky (I'm much more disappointed of the new buildings in its immediate surrounding). It is a nice addition to Paris landmarks and it's not like it's been built on the 'Champs de Mars'...


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Old October 9th, 2016, 01:16 PM   #10249
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Comparing a brand new cultural center and its small church with authentic Orthodox cathedrals is a bit bold. We can't ask Athens to build Notre Dame next to the Acropole... I don't find the church tacky (I'm much more disappointed of the new buildings in its immediate surrounding). It is a nice addition to Paris landmarks and it's not like it's been built on the 'Champs de Mars'...
That's my point precisely, that's why I said it should've been built in the far, far, far suburbs, just like you can't see a brand new mini Notre Dame anywhere close to the red square in Moscow.
But oh well, I guess the French know what they're doing with the central parts of their capital city, I thought the central parts were already land-marked.
And once again this is not the absolute epitome of how an Orthodox church looks. In the south of Europe they are built with stones and terracotta and I think they look much better and far from tacky.
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That's my point precisely, that's why I said it should've been built in the far, far, far suburbs, just like you can't see a brand new mini Notre Dame anywhere close to the red square in Moscow.
But oh well, I guess the French know what they're doing with the central parts of their capital city, I thought the central parts were already land-marked.
And once again this is not the absolute epitome of how an Orthodox church looks. In the south of Europe they are built with stones and terracotta and I think they look much better and far from tacky.
hello after looking at the picture posted by Pew, i don't know where is the problem, this buildings are looking nice and decent and the walls are covered by real marble.......
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Old October 9th, 2016, 01:43 PM   #10251
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But oh well, I guess the French know what they're doing with the central parts of their capital city, I thought the central parts were already land-marked.
I hope we'll see plenty of other recognizable buildings in the future, even in the central parts. If we can't get anything as big and iconic as the Eiffel tower, the Arc de Triomphe or the Pompidou center, I would personnaly encourage any initiative such as this one. But as you said indeed, in such an area, materials must be high quality. In that case, it seems the domes are promising in real life.

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And once again this is not the absolute epitome of how an Orthodox church looks. In the south of Europe they are built with stones and terracotta and I think they look much better and far from tacky.
I know them and they are nice. Choice been made not to use stones and terracotta for this one church but silver colored bulbs... And to my eyes, it does not look tacky. If it had been made of stones and terracotta it would have been nice or certainly nicer intrinsically, but would just seem to be out of its natural place and wouldn't fit well there in my opinion. In that case the silver color fits with parisian grey roofs
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Old October 9th, 2016, 02:03 PM   #10252
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COEUR DE QUARTIER PHASE 2
city of NANTERRE/Paris LA DEFENSE

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I hope we'll see plenty of other recognizable buildings in the future, even in the central parts. If we can't get anything as big and iconic as the Eiffel tower, the Arc de Triomphe or the Pompidou center, I would personnaly encourage any initiative such as this one.
No one said that you can't get something as big and iconic as the Eiffel tower, the Arc de Triomphe or the Pompidou center. I never underestimate the power of modern, contemporary, futuristic, architecture.

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If it had been made of stones and terracotta it would have been nice or certainly nicer intrinsically, but would just seem to be out of its natural place and wouldn't fit well there in my opinion. In that case the silver color fits with parisian grey roofs
The truth is, these domes already look out of place to me, that's why I reacted.
The architecture of the south Europeans might appear simple, humble, but I think that's a good aspect, at least they look unobtrusive. The roof doesn't have to be made from terracotta tiles, different types of metal could be used instead.
But I still think that central parts should be reserved for French architecture.

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hello after looking at the picture posted by Pew, i don't know where is the problem, this buildings are looking nice and decent and the walls are covered by real marble.......
Maybe it would've looked nice somewhere in the suburbs. Authentic French architecture should be typical for the central parts no matter if modern or historical.

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Old October 9th, 2016, 02:52 PM   #10254
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I disagree about the Russian church being a bad addition to the Parisian urban texture or its skyline. I've hanged around recently and it doesn't feel like it detracts from the place. But I can understand this innitial reaction due to it being so very different. Also, some of the renders and photos make it look like it is quite bigger and taller than it actually is. What I can only say is that in Bucharest we too have a Russian church in the heart of the city and while the difference between our architecture and Russian architecture remains striking, we certainly cherrish the Russian church, we wouldn't want to be without it. So I think Parisians will get used to it very quickly.


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Looking it up now it appears that they've changed the roof cover from old copper to some bright golden metal, so now it looks more like in Paris:


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If the new metal is brass, then it should lose its brightness in time if I remember well.
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Old October 9th, 2016, 03:35 PM   #10255
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Authentic French architecture should be typical for the central parts no matter if modern or historical.
I would love to see Modern Typical Authentic French Architecture. Whatever this means, I hope an architecte will really surprise me someday
(maybe the new 'Le Monde' headquarters will be a good example, as a revisited Arc?....)

But I wouldn't mind to see aswell initiatives in architecture refering directly to other cultures than french. Paris is cosmopolitan (as most capital cities) and in my opinion should open up its architecture to other traditions and propose an interpretation that reflects the culture of the communities living in the city without altering the coherence of a neighborood. I think they succeeded with this one example
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Old October 9th, 2016, 03:44 PM   #10256
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I disagree about the Russian church being a bad addition to the Parisian urban texture or its skyline. I've hanged around recently and it doesn't feel like it detracts from the place. But I can understand this innitial reaction due to it being so very different. Also, some of the renders and photos make it look like it is quite bigger and taller than it actually is. What I can only say is that in Bucharest we too have a Russian church in the heart of the city and while the difference between our architecture and Russian architecture remains striking, we certainly cherrish the Russian church, we wouldn't want to be without it. So I think Parisians will get used to it very quickly.


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Looking it up now it appears that they've changed the roof cover from old copper to some bright golden metal, so now it looks more like in Paris:


Merry Christmas to all who celebrate Nativity on January 6 & 7!
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If the new metal is brass, then it should lose its brightness in time if I remember well.
nice churches but how old they are ? in Paris they didn't want to build such a church in an "old fashioned" style ; the architecture of Wilmotte for the Quai BRANLY orthodox church is not marvellous but the best of every projects choosen.
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city of BOULOGNE BILLANCOURT
second city in the Grand Paris with 117.000 inhabitants.

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LE TRAPEZE new district (residential+offices) with HORIZONS tower by Nouvel

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nice churches but how old they are ? in Paris they didn't want to build such a church in an "old fashioned" style ; the architecture of Wilmotte for the Quai BRANLY orthodox church is not marvellous but the best of every projects choosen.

^ it's the same church, but with new roof covers in the second picture. The church is not medieval like its achitecture suggests, it's only a bit over a century old. But for sure it didn't take a century for Bucharestians to love it.

The church in Paris is not "old fashioned" indeed from the bulbs down, but the bulbs themselves are the most traditionally Russian thing possible.
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ALTAIS MONTREUIL
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Old October 9th, 2016, 05:51 PM   #10260
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hello what is shocking on this picture for you ? the five bulbs ? but this is the characteristic of an orthodox church !!
I'm from Saint-Petersbrg. I DO know what russian orthodoxs are. Hope, this sh*t will be demolished and banned forever
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