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Old May 11th, 2006, 02:22 PM   #121
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Le Nouvel Observateur magazine in their latest edition have revealed new skyscraper projects hitherto unknown. Here is the cover page.



In Issy-les-Moulineaux (you can see that place on the map above) the local council would like Norman Foster to build two skyscrapers on the banks of the Seine (height unknown). Furthermore, they also plan to build an office skyscraper called the Hypergreen Tower which would be 246 m (807 ft) high and include the latest technology in energy-saving and environmental sustainability.

Le Nouvel Observateur have also revealed that in Saint-Denis (north of Central Paris) the local council plans to build skyscrapers near the Stade de France. Several councils on the northern and eastern fringes of Central Paris (notably Saint-Ouen and Bagnolet) are also planning skyscrapers according to Le Nouvel Observateur.

With all the new projects announced weekly, it's hard to keep the Paris skyscrapers list up-to-date. The current skyscraper building drive has never been seen before in Paris. If I count well, there are now skyscrapers U/C or planned in La Défense, Neuilly-sur-Seine, Levallois-Perret, Issy-les-Moulineaux, Saint-Denis, Saint-Ouen, and Bagnolet. I'll update the list as soon as we have more information about the projects. If anyone has better information, please update.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 05:48 PM   #122
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Even more projects for towers??!!
This is getting ridiculous!
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Old May 11th, 2006, 06:10 PM   #123
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Old May 11th, 2006, 06:57 PM   #124
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Here are some renderings of the 246 m (807 ft) Hypergreen Tower that Issy-les-Moulineaux is insterested in. The concept was introduced by architect Jacques Ferrier. This skyscraper would be built approximately 4 km (2.5 miles southwest of the Eiffel Tower). Please note that the renderings were initially for a Chinese city, so the buildings shown around the Hypergreen Tower are not in Issy-les-Moulineaux.















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Old May 11th, 2006, 07:08 PM   #125
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At first sight like that, I hate it
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Old May 11th, 2006, 08:18 PM   #126
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Nice concept,ugly design.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 10:20 PM   #127
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^exactly what I think.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 11:45 PM   #128
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I think those renderings don't do justice to the project. The lace will probably look more like the buildings at the Tjibaou Center in Nouméa, New Caledonia. Here are pictures of those buildings.





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Old May 11th, 2006, 11:53 PM   #129
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One can also think about the Torre Agbar in Barcelona.

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Old May 21st, 2006, 02:11 AM   #130
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countries like france, should not build skyscrapers when their economy is shit and more shit. france unemployment rate : 10%. USA : 4,5%

SKYSCRAPERS SHOULD BE BUILD IN CAPITALIST COUNTRIES LIKE USA, NOT IN COMMUNIST COUNTRIES LIKE FRANCE.

FRANCE SHOULD BUILD MORE 20 FLOORS BUILDINGS FOR POOR FRENCHMAN, BECAUSE IF THEY BUILD OFFICE BUILDINGS, THEY WILL BE EMPTY FOR SURE.
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Old May 21st, 2006, 02:16 AM   #131
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^yes of course, you're right.
But countries should build more schools for you too to learn a thing or two about the world
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Old May 21st, 2006, 12:23 PM   #132
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Quote:
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countries like france, should not build skyscrapers when their economy is shit and more shit. france unemployment rate : 10%. USA : 4,5%

SKYSCRAPERS SHOULD BE BUILD IN CAPITALIST COUNTRIES LIKE USA, NOT IN COMMUNIST COUNTRIES LIKE FRANCE.

FRANCE SHOULD BUILD MORE 20 FLOORS BUILDINGS FOR POOR FRENCHMAN, BECAUSE IF THEY BUILD OFFICE BUILDINGS, THEY WILL BE EMPTY FOR SURE.


You obviously don´t knw shit do you? France is like 10X wealthier than the US. If you have a job i Europe you manage quite well. You can have three jobs in the US and still not affird to live in a house! Plus that unemployment rate isn´t fare, do you really think all poor homeless people are included, no! Get the facts right before you make such ridiculous statements...
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Old May 21st, 2006, 01:08 PM   #133
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countries like france, should not build skyscrapers when their economy is shit and more shit. france unemployment rate : 10%. USA : 4,5%

SKYSCRAPERS SHOULD BE BUILD IN CAPITALIST COUNTRIES LIKE USA, NOT IN COMMUNIST COUNTRIES LIKE FRANCE.

FRANCE SHOULD BUILD MORE 20 FLOORS BUILDINGS FOR POOR FRENCHMAN, BECAUSE IF THEY BUILD OFFICE BUILDINGS, THEY WILL BE EMPTY FOR SURE.

Firstly, get your facts right
France is not a Communist country.
The States are generally poorer than France (no offence).
As for the 4.5% unemployment rate, New York City is not even that low...

Secondly, reason yourself
Why should a developed Socialist country like France not build skyscrapers?
And if you think Communists don't need skyscrapers, where are all the government officials be working?????


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Old May 21st, 2006, 02:05 PM   #134
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countries like france, should not build skyscrapers when their economy is shit and more shit. france unemployment rate : 10%. USA : 4,5%

SKYSCRAPERS SHOULD BE BUILD IN CAPITALIST COUNTRIES LIKE USA, NOT IN COMMUNIST COUNTRIES LIKE FRANCE.

FRANCE SHOULD BUILD MORE 20 FLOORS BUILDINGS FOR POOR FRENCHMAN, BECAUSE IF THEY BUILD OFFICE BUILDINGS, THEY WILL BE EMPTY FOR SURE.
wtf??
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Old May 21st, 2006, 02:57 PM   #135
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Quote:
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countries like france, should not build skyscrapers when their economy is shit and more shit. france unemployment rate : 10%. USA : 4,5%

SKYSCRAPERS SHOULD BE BUILD IN CAPITALIST COUNTRIES LIKE USA, NOT IN COMMUNIST COUNTRIES LIKE FRANCE.

FRANCE SHOULD BUILD MORE 20 FLOORS BUILDINGS FOR POOR FRENCHMAN, BECAUSE IF THEY BUILD OFFICE BUILDINGS, THEY WILL BE EMPTY FOR SURE.

What a prat
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Old May 21st, 2006, 03:23 PM   #136
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Hey people, don't feed the trolls!
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 01:00 AM   #137
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PENCAKAR, obviously i know that france isn`t a communist country, but it is not a capitalist country like USA. ALL the french universities are public and the fees are so low that there is no money to build more laboratories. second, in francfurt, germany, there are a lot of skyscrapers empty because the country can not create new jobs.
Chirac, an intelligent president, wanted to change all the stupid french laws, like the famous CPE, unfortunally there are a lot of rastas and hippies and communist people in France.

USA GDP PER CAPITA: 42000$
FRANCE GDP PER CAPITA: 30000$

WELL, I THINK I WAS A LITLE BIT A BADBOY, BUT IT IS BETTER TO SAY THE TRUE
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countries like france, should not build skyscrapers when their economy is shit and more shit. france unemployment rate : 10%. USA : 4,5%
Unemployment rates doens't prove a thing, especially considering the fact that the US has a lot of so-called McJobs, hard work for wages where people in other parts of the Western world would laugh about.

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SKYSCRAPERS SHOULD BE BUILD IN CAPITALIST COUNTRIES LIKE USA, NOT IN COMMUNIST COUNTRIES LIKE FRANCE.
Please tell that in China. Or didn't you know most skyscraper construction could be found in non-capatilist countries nowadays?

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FRANCE SHOULD BUILD MORE 20 FLOORS BUILDINGS FOR POOR FRENCHMAN, BECAUSE IF THEY BUILD OFFICE BUILDINGS, THEY WILL BE EMPTY FOR SURE.
With the poverty-rate in you beloved capalistic USA, it's would be better to say that anywhere else but here.

The world is so simple, isn't it?


Back to business: it's great to see all there developments. I can't wait to see the first renders of Paris first supertall!
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 04:36 AM   #139
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it's a waste of time to argue about such idiotic topics. please don't let newfire represent all americans...

it's great to see the development of paris expanding to new parts of the city. im not sure if i like the hypergreen tower though
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 09:44 AM   #140
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PENCAKAR, obviously i know that france isn`t a communist country, but it is not a capitalist country like USA. ALL the french universities are public and the fees are so low that there is no money to build more laboratories. second, in francfurt, germany, there are a lot of skyscrapers empty because the country can not create new jobs.
Chirac, an intelligent president, wanted to change all the stupid french laws, like the famous CPE, unfortunally there are a lot of rastas and hippies and communist people in France.

USA GDP PER CAPITA: 42000$
FRANCE GDP PER CAPITA: 30000$

WELL, I THINK I WAS A LITLE BIT A BADBOY, BUT IT IS BETTER TO SAY THE TRUE
I agree with TGSwimFly that we shud end this, but not giving up.
firstly, did you not learn economics in highschool? France's univerities may be low cost, but taxes are very high (total tax wedge of a single worker in France is 48.3%; USA 30%) , and that is where the govt get money. That money will then be used to subsidise universities (to build whatever YOU want them to). So, since France is not a very corrupted country, the money shud go to the unies instead of Chirac's or Sarkozy's pockets...
Secondly, as I stated before, Communists are better at creating jobs than Capitalist (get your eco textbook or wikipedia to explain this! I cannot be bothered to rite now...). This will include government posts, etc. Those empty s'rapers in FranKfurt is a result of the SPD trying to go right. (Gerhard Schroeder was a right-wing inside SPD).

I hope this proves it wrong that Communist countries cannot build skyscrapers.
I think both economies should build skyscrapers if conditions permit.
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