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Old November 10th, 2007, 09:43 PM   #1441
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Old November 10th, 2007, 09:52 PM   #1442
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Woaw! That's an awesome project! I'm stunned!
Yes, it's a pretty nice project. It would add variety to La Défense. A Frankfurt touch somehow.

According to calculations I've made based on the architect's plans (see below), the heighetened Gan Tower has a roof height of 228 meters (748 ft), +/- 1 meter.

Here are some other views.





Architect's plans:



hauteur tour existante = height of the current tower
surélévation = heightening
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Old November 10th, 2007, 10:05 PM   #1443
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Damn impressive, I hope it'll be approuved.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 09:02 PM   #1444
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Two towers in Asnières-sur-Seine (western inner suburbs)

Paris and its inner suburbs

60,000m²
About 80~100m










http://www.claude-vasconi.fr/dev/new...tes-d-asnieres
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Old November 13th, 2007, 03:30 PM   #1445
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Another view of the heightened Gan Tower.

Gan Tower unchanged in 2012.


Heightened Gan Tower.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 04:58 PM   #1446
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I like the new design, but to be honest, I also really like the old Gan. The problem is, with these two neighbors, it looks like a midget, so Gan has to increase the height, or lose face when people see that logo between the two new supertalls.

Why can't they just increase the height of the tower, by continuing on the current design? I really like the cross, they can just put 70m more on top, and keep the historic look of the tower
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Old November 15th, 2007, 12:53 PM   #1447
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I doubt they would be willing to spend hundreds of million euros just to have a taller 30 years old design.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 03:11 PM   #1448
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GAN reconstruction and heightening should start in march 2008, in only 5 months!!!



Majunga is to be delivered in 2010 so construction should start within the next 6 months.


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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:03 PM   #1449
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GAN reconstruction and heightening should start in march 2008, in only 5 months!!!
Damn', that's fast. We need yet another drawing on skyscraperpage...

I guess I would also need to add PB22 twins.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:36 PM   #1450
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GAN reconstruction and heightening should start in march 2008, in only 5 months!!!
Excellent news but what is the source?
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Old November 16th, 2007, 01:25 AM   #1451
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The source is the developper, "Foncière des régions", itself. Of course, nothing is sure yet.

In fact, the employees of Gan should move from january to march 2008, and the works could start right after that.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 12:41 AM   #1452
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Actually 165m twin towers in Levallois are closer to be cancelled than to be built.
The 400m is actually cancelled but we know that 4th towers will be around 300m
Generalli tower 318m
Phare tower 300m
Signale tower ~300m
Minister of....... tower ~300m

New picture of Phare tower. 300m




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Old November 17th, 2007, 06:19 PM   #1453
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10 major projects for La Défense at a glance



From left to right:
Generali (318 m), Phare a.k.a. Morphosis (300 m), CB21 a.k.a. Gan(275 m), CB31 a.k.a. AXA (240 m), PB22 (235 m and 145 m),
Air² (220 m), Majunga (195 m), T1 (187 m), Granite (184 m), D2* (170 m).


*The rendering shown for D2 is only a candidate of a current architectural contest. The winner will only be revealed by the end of the year.

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Old November 17th, 2007, 11:16 PM   #1454
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A rendering of Generalli tower (318m) posted by JR Lyon

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Old November 17th, 2007, 11:57 PM   #1455
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such a crap..this tower will ruin La Defense renewal.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 11:59 PM   #1456
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Old November 18th, 2007, 12:23 AM   #1457
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such a crap..this tower will ruin La Defense renewal.
Cyril, anytime you use exaggeration you bring discredit to your point of view. Learn how to articulate constructive criticism for a change.
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Old November 18th, 2007, 12:49 AM   #1458
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Cyril is entitled to an opinion. If you are going to try and discredit it, actually give reasons why you disagree, instead of insulting grammer/articulation etc... That's what this forum is about, DEBATING architecture. Say why you think it is great. Let other people say why they think it is crap. And talk to eachother about your reasons.

But Cyril, you probably should give reasons why you think it's crap. I try to do so everytime I comment on something I dislike now.

Well, just my humble opinion
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Old November 18th, 2007, 01:59 AM   #1459
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Maybe Cyril thinks that this tower is gimicking what's being built in emerging markets in the far east instead of concentrating on style and contextualization in a European CBD? This tower screams look at me when there's nothing interesting to see.

I find the design of this tower very clumsy, neither bold nor original, just a pale copy of all those average buildings built accross the globe right now.

The summit of the tower is particularly badly treated, almost as if it were done by a Z-list architect.

The statement made by the wind turbine is so obvious and plain.

The crossbracing envelope, although very common now, is the only thing that enhances its design.


This one and Majunga are the worst of the proposals revealed for La Defense.

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Old November 18th, 2007, 02:19 AM   #1460
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Remember a few years back my fellow french forumers when you were criticizing british forumers for showing shiny renderings and no proper building under construction in flesh, minimizing London dynamism, it looks like it's your turn now!

Are you more critical? er...no. Think about it guys.
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