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Old March 13th, 2008, 06:27 AM   #1621
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First images: Design for Eiffel Tower visitor platform
11 March, 2008

By Thomas Lane

Sereno Architects doubles visitor capacity at top of Paris' tower as part of 120th anniversary celebrations

These are the first images of a platform to increase the amount of space for visitors at the top of the Eiffel Tower. It has been designed by French firm Sereno Architects as a competition entry being held by tower operator, Société Nouvelle d'exploitation de la Tour Eiffel.

The operator wants to build a platform as part of the Eiffel Tower's 120th anniversary celebrations to help get rid of the huge queues of visitors wanting to go up to the top of the tower.

Sereno Architects design uses a carbon fibre and Kevlar composite to double the amount of space at the top of the tower without adding too much weight.

The architect says the structure is temporary but as the Eiffel Tower was originally going to be taken down after a year the platform could end up becoming permanent.





http://www.building.co.uk/story.asp?...de=3108430&c=1
Now that is something that will drastically alter the appearence of the Eiffel Tower. Is it wrong to alter the Eiffel Tower's current appearance?
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Old March 13th, 2008, 11:44 AM   #1622
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" the structure is temporary "
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Old March 13th, 2008, 12:12 PM   #1623
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May be temporary as written in the article.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #1624
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not may be temporary, may be PERMANANT!

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The architect says the structure is temporary but as the Eiffel Tower was originally going to be taken down after a year the platform could end up becoming permanent.
but "as the Eiffel Tower was originally"... can't be a journalistic metaphor or the dream of the architect ("the architect says") but not the goal of SNTE . The first and true intention I red is : THE STRUCTURE IS TEMPORARY. That a present and affirmativ form. COULD BECOMING PERMANANT that a conditional and maybe those words belongs only to the architect. We do not have yet enough informations about it. The source is not official. Maybe it's a joke...who knows? I never heard about such project. The idea is pretty interesting and must be considered.

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Old March 13th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #1625
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you have the answer in your own quote JP.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 01:04 PM   #1626
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Are you still so approximativ in your way of reading and considering a source? Can't you make any difference between "is" and "could become"? ... bizarre...
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Old March 13th, 2008, 01:41 PM   #1627
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As a former mathematics graduate let me clarify this little rhetorical dispute:
The article says: The structure IS temporary but MAY become permanent (proposition 1).
Manuel says: The structure MAY be temporary (proposition 2).
Unlike what people may think, proposition 2 ("MAY be temporary") is NOT logically equivalent to proposition 1 ("MAY become permanent"), because "temporary" is NOT the logical opposite of "permanent". A "temporary" object CAN become "permanent", but a "permanent" object CAN NOT, by definition, become "temporary". TIME flies in one direction only, hence the logical discrepancy between the two propositions.

Consequently, Manuel's interpretation (proposition 2) of the article's statement (proposition 1), is not correct.
Clear enough?

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Old March 13th, 2008, 01:50 PM   #1628
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Clear enough?
Bright...

But what if the Eiffel Tower goes through a wormhole?
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Old March 13th, 2008, 02:06 PM   #1629
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I realised this render adding Hermitage tower and Libeskind proposal as Signal.



I do appreciate the composition effort. IMO every tower is replying to another. Everyone have an articulation with the surrounding area. There is a surprising effect of harmony far from an anarchical mix of "unwed machines". That's a hazard, maybe can we call it the genius locci.
The proposal of Libeskind is a nice transition or interpretation of Phare. It's also an echo to Granite.
The accentuated vertical lines of Hermitage, Gan, Generali are remarquable. In the middle, Phare find in this view (from Eiffel Tower) its role of monument and symbol.

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Old March 13th, 2008, 02:52 PM   #1630
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I really like the crystal shaped tower of Daniel Libeskind. Would be the best fit in the skyline IMHO.

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Old March 13th, 2008, 04:02 PM   #1631
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[QUOTE=JP;19008823]I realised this render adding Hermitage tower and Libeskind proposal as Signal.



I do appreciate the composition effort. IMO every tower is replying to another. Everyone have an articulation with the surrounding area. There is a surprising effect of harmony far from an anarchical mix of "unwed machines". That's a hazard, maybe can we call it the genius locci.
The proposal of Libeskind is a nice transition or interpretation of Phare. It's also an echo to Granite.
The accentuated vertical lines of Hermitage, Gan, Generali are remarquable. In the middle, Phare find in this view (from Eiffel Tower) its role of monument and symbol.

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You're so desperate to find something interesting in this composition that you manage to be totally unconsistent with what you previously said. Mind you, I more agree with you now than some times ago.

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Both propositions are false as we dont know yet the outcome. the possibility of the extension being permanent is a proposition as mentioned.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 04:24 PM   #1632
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I don't think you need to be desesperate to find this potentially future skyline quite exhilarating, with several skyscrapers towering around 300m.
Anyway, it's just a point of view among others, including the view from the Arc de Triomphe, from Meudon, from Suresne, from Notre-Dame or from the Institut du Monde Arabe. Each of them will offer different perspectives and different compositions. All of them will be impressive and powerful nonetheless.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 05:20 PM   #1633
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You're so desperate to find something interesting in this composition that you manage to be totally unconsistent with what you previously said. Mind you, I more agree with you now than some times ago.
Be nice, stop trolling.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 05:20 PM   #1634
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JP's comments are exhilarating, not the skyline in itself.
I agree on the powerful effect achieved by LD and it is mainly due to the perspective and the sheer size of the cluster. I am in favour of the dramatization of skylines as a reminescence of past classical skylines.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 05:26 PM   #1635
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Be nice, stop trolling.
OK. I hope he wont troll around longer as well. He is making some kind of revenge here relating to very private matters.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 06:32 PM   #1636
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some new renders here : http://www.lemoniteur-expert.com/dia...brique.asp?r=5
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Old March 13th, 2008, 10:44 PM   #1637
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When are all these projects in La Defense supposed to be completed?
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Old March 13th, 2008, 10:47 PM   #1638
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Old March 14th, 2008, 02:49 AM   #1639
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Libeskind's proposal is also by far my favourite.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 08:13 PM   #1640
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This skyline is impressive, but I'd prefer without Hermitage Towers
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