daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Development News Forums > City/Metro Compilations

City/Metro Compilations Help report active highrise/urban developments occurring in your city to the global SSC community.



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old May 27th, 2008, 04:25 PM   #1741
brisavoine
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: desconocida
Posts: 18,053
Likes (Received): 2346

And now the grand finale, Hermitage Towers and Jean Nouvel's monolithic Tour Signal, all on the same render:
(this render on Hermitage's website makes me realize the entire architectural competition was a sham... Hermitage already knew Jean Nouvel would be selected)





You can see the video from which these renders where extracted here: http://hermitage-immo.fr/lib/swf/film_avec_contexte.flv
brisavoine no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old May 27th, 2008, 04:37 PM   #1742
Good
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Varsovie
Posts: 1,467
Likes (Received): 595

Wilmotte and Libeskind towers were AWFUL, just some superficial twisted skyscraspers, which would have aged very badly.
Everyone is entitled to his opinion, and I don't share yours.
Good no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 04:45 PM   #1743
brisavoine
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: desconocida
Posts: 18,053
Likes (Received): 2346

They said La Défense is too boxy and it needs more diversity, more spires and curved lines, and then they end up selecting the boxiest towers. This is a lack of logic and direction, to say the least.

In any case, my hope for the future of Paris skyscrapers lies more in a classy skyscraper district at Montparnasse, now that the taboo of building skyscrapers inside the city proper seems to be at an end. At Montparnasse they'll think twice before allowing monolithic monstruosities, and we'll end up with more classy designs.
brisavoine no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 04:55 PM   #1744
3tmk
Rusty Robot
 
3tmk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Floor 7½
Posts: 10,718

Where's Foster's?
__________________
3tmk no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 05:07 PM   #1745
Minato ku
Moderator
 
Minato ku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Paris, Montrouge
Posts: 16,746

Well nobody said that Foster tower could not be build.
Unfortunely Libeskind tower is exaclty at the same place that Nouvel tower.

Good I agree I did not like Wilmotte project but I aslo desagree with you, Libeskind tower was very interresting and the integration with the Esplanande look far better than in Nouvel project.

Libeskind


Nouvel




The integration with the Esplanade may not be a big issue for many people but for me it was maybe the most important thing.
__________________
すみません !
J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !
Minato ku no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 05:10 PM   #1746
Good
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Varsovie
Posts: 1,467
Likes (Received): 595

I think D2, Axa and above all the magnificent Phare will bring enough curves, spires and slopes to the architectural landscape. Don't forget that Signal will face the everything-but-monolithic 300 meters high Mayne's alien, that's why I think it's a good decision to pick up something more sober and classy.
That said I would have preferred Foster's proposal, but Nouvel's tower is a satisfying choice in my opinion. Not the best one possible, but a good one. I don't think it deserves to be THE Signal (Phare will be the real Signal), but it will be an interesting and impressive skyscraper for the urban setting and the skyline.

I am a bit fed up with all these quick judgements on a project just by the virtue of some weird shapes and shiny images to say it all.
Good no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 05:26 PM   #1747
Cyril
Particle XLR8R
 
Cyril's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 17,812
Likes (Received): 4220

A video showing the tower:

http://www.lemoniteur-expert.com/vid....asp?r=2&v=125
__________________
J'en ai marre de lire "Les riverains sont inquiets..."
Cyril no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 11:18 PM   #1748
rocky
Registered User
 
rocky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London/Paris east suburbs
Posts: 1,305
Likes (Received): 5

Quote:
Originally Posted by brisavoine View Post
And now the grand finale, Hermitage Towers and Jean Nouvel's monolithic Tour Signal, all on the same render:
(this render on Hermitage's website makes me realize the entire architectural competition was a sham... Hermitage already knew Jean Nouvel would be selected)





You can see the video from which these renders where extracted here: http://hermitage-immo.fr/lib/swf/film_avec_contexte.flv
If thats built la defense will be the ugliest skyline in the world
rocky no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 11:23 PM   #1749
Minato ku
Moderator
 
Minato ku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Paris, Montrouge
Posts: 16,746

Who know with these shitty renders.
At least the skyline wouldn't be so bad from the Eiffel tiower.
__________________
すみません !
J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !
Minato ku no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 11:31 PM   #1750
Cyril
Particle XLR8R
 
Cyril's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 17,812
Likes (Received): 4220

yes..or from a seagull's back maybe..
__________________
J'en ai marre de lire "Les riverains sont inquiets..."
Cyril no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 11:38 PM   #1751
Manuel
Registered User
 
Manuel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,939
Likes (Received): 32

@Minato
Because they're lazy bastard that don't bother writing something of their own. They copy/paste and translate press statements from developers, architects. Quick and easy.

That's XXI century journalism.
__________________
>>>>>>>>>> Mon album Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/manuel69/<<<<<<<<<<
Manuel no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 11:44 PM   #1752
ChrisDVD
Registered User
 
ChrisDVD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Montréal
Posts: 683
Likes (Received): 105

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minato ku View Post
That's weird why they always present La Defense as the biggest bussiness district of Europe when it is not even the biggest of Paris.
Which other one to they have?
Front-de-Seine? Its smaller...
Maybe when they say that they mean 'biggest skyscraper bussiness district' ?
ChrisDVD no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2008, 11:53 PM   #1753
Minato ku
Moderator
 
Minato ku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Paris, Montrouge
Posts: 16,746

Quartier Central des Affaire in Central Paris.
For La Defense biggest skyscraper business district is correct.
__________________
すみません !
J’aime Paris et je veux des tours !
Minato ku no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2008, 12:02 AM   #1754
Manuel
Registered User
 
Manuel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,939
Likes (Received): 32

It's the biggest ex nihilo purpose-built business district in Europe.
__________________
>>>>>>>>>> Mon album Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/manuel69/<<<<<<<<<<
Manuel no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2008, 01:52 AM   #1755
brisavoine
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: desconocida
Posts: 18,053
Likes (Received): 2346

The problem with renders in France is they are never realistic. Nouvel's renders are typical in that respect. The tower that will eventually be built won't look like anything in the not very realistic renders posted above. The hollow parts of the tower, in particular, will never have these fancy 23rd century red and green tones, I would bet anything.

I've been trying to think how Nouvel's monstrosity would look for real, and here is what I think comes closest to how it could look. This is the Yokohama Landmark Tower. It has almost the same height as Nouvel's Tour Signal, and the design bears some resemblance with Nouvel's design, except of course the Yokohama Landmark Tower is not as straighty straight as Nouvel's monolith.

So this is how it could possibly look, just boxier, and with no street and water at its feet:
(now I think I understand better Christian Sauter comparing Paris and Tokyo )









パリは、日本の都市ですね。
brisavoine no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2008, 02:19 AM   #1756
Farnese
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 32
Likes (Received): 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky View Post
If thats built la defense will be the ugliest skyline in the world
yeah Liverpool and Milan will eat us alive
Farnese no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2008, 12:25 PM   #1757
Newcastle Guy
Registered User
 
Newcastle Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 9,096
Likes (Received): 317

Quote:
Originally Posted by Farnese View Post
yeah Liverpool and Milan will eat us alive
Liverpool is actually getting itself a very nice skyline. I know people talk about Birmingham/Manchester being the second city of the UK and having the best skyline outside London, but I think that title could easily fall to Liverpool if they continue the way they are going.

image hosted on flickr
Newcastle Guy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2008, 05:08 PM   #1758
Cyril
Particle XLR8R
 
Cyril's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 17,812
Likes (Received): 4220



Today in a press release, Hermitage has therefore decided to make their tower project come true in Courbevoie.

The building will be built at the location of buildings "Damiers d'Anjou" and "Damiers of Brittany", making up 250 residences.
Hermitage has pledged to relocate all current occupants in the Hauts-de-Seine département by proposing a housing standard at least equal or even higher.
It is expected that construction work will begin in 2010 for delivery in 2014. Composed of two buildings of different heights, H-shaped, crowned by two lookouts special cuts, the twin tower designed by architect Jacques Ferrier for Hermitage will rise to 309 metres.
__________________
J'en ai marre de lire "Les riverains sont inquiets..."

Last edited by Cyril; May 28th, 2008 at 06:32 PM.
Cyril no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2008, 06:07 PM   #1759
brisavoine
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: desconocida
Posts: 18,053
Likes (Received): 2346

In only 6 years time (seems hard to believe) La Défense will have the largest concentration of supertalls in the EU (4 at my last count), and the largest concentration of skyscrapers in Europe to start with (22 towers above 150m at my last count, which is now in the league of the largest American CBDs outside NYC and Chicago; San Francisco's CBD will have 23 towers above 150m in 2014 for example), so it will certainly look impressive, but it will lack aesthetic quality in my opinion, with only very few really beautiful towers (such as Granite, D2). And there remains the problem of the concrete slab, which deprives La Défense of street life and of a real city feel.
brisavoine no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2008, 06:29 PM   #1760
brisavoine
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: desconocida
Posts: 18,053
Likes (Received): 2346

These are the 22 towers above 150m that will stand at La Défense in 2014. I'll make a more general summary for the whole Greater Paris soon.

1- Generali Tower (318m)
2- Hermitage Tower 1 (309m)
3- Signal Tower (301m)
4- Phare Tower (300m)
5- Hermitage Tower 2 (264m)
6- New Gan Tower (236m roof/275m mast)
7- Air² Tower (235m)
8- New Axa Tower (225m roof/240m mast)
9- Majunga Tower (195m)
10- T1 Tower (188m)
11- Total Tower (187m)
12- Areva Tower (184m)
13- Granite Tower (183m)
14- D2 Tower (180m)
15- Alicante Tower (SG) (167m)
16- Chassagne Tower (SG) (167m)
17- Carpe Diem Tower (166m)
18- EDF Tower (165m)
19- Cœur Défense Tower (161m)
20- Adria (Technip) Tower (155m)
21- Égée (Ernst&Young) Tower (155m)
22- Ariane Tower (152m)

Last edited by brisavoine; June 1st, 2008 at 04:41 PM.
brisavoine no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
construction, la défense, les halles, paris, paris skyscrapers, philharmonie, projects

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 07:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu