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Old September 19th, 2008, 06:13 PM   #1841
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Thanks Cyril for this information

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Paris mayor Bertrand Delanoe to announce next week the construction of a 180-meter tower private project in the Parc des Expositions in the city proper's fifteenth arrondissement. Architects are Herzog and De Meuron. Design unrevealed so far. Arrondissement UMP (right wing) mayor Philippe Goujon, stressed that this will be the first high-rise building built in Paris for over 30 years.

Source : AFP 9/19/2008
A better sentence would be this will be the first high-rise building build in inner Paris or in the City of Paris for over 30 years.
This is not even true, the last high-rise (over 100m) build in inner Paris was Tour Cristal in 1990 and it was in the 15th arrondissement. (Front de Seine, next to the Eiffel tower)



Anyway it will be the first high-rise over 150m building built in Paris for over 30 years.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 08:19 PM   #1842
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Well this *WOULD* be the first for over 30 years...
I can't believe that people living in the neighborhood won't protest..
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Old September 20th, 2008, 12:35 AM   #1843
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Of what do you think ? the office buildings in this district or the inhabitants of Issy les Moulineaux ?
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Old September 20th, 2008, 12:39 AM   #1844
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Paris mayor Bertrand Delanoe to announce next week the construction of a 180-meter tower private project in the Parc des Expositions in the city proper's fifteenth arrondissement.
I already talked about it here.

So it's 180 meters then, not 200 meters? Well, that's more or less what I expected. Despite all the PR spin, you can't expect much boldness from a mayor whose greatest achievement for a metropolis the size of Paris have been a bike scheme known as Vélib', a short section of tramway line (don't mention those sweating commuters in the RER A, they are just "banlieusards" after all, they don't vote for the mayor of Paris), and some feel good leisure events such as Paris Plage and Nuit Blanche. I bet anything Balkany's skyscrapers in Levallois-Perret will be erected long before Delanoë's towers even start construction, if at all.

Well, to be fair with the mayor of Paris, he's now busy preparing his 2012 bid for French president, so he doesn't have much time left to focuss on Paris. (chuckles)
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Old September 22nd, 2008, 12:02 AM   #1845
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Picture of the (soon to be) 240m Axa Tower under (re)construction that I took from the suburban train today.







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Old September 24th, 2008, 06:09 PM   #1846
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Renders of the 180m (590 ft) Unibail tower at the Porte de Versailles in the City of Paris proper have been released. This will be the first skyscraper built in the City of Paris since the Montparnasse Tower in the early 1970s (La Défense, where skyscrapers have been built continuously since the 1970s, is outside the administrative borders of the City of Paris).

In my opinion, this tower is ugly, about as ugly as these ridiculous pyramid buildings in La Grande Motte and other cheap beach resorts on the flat coast of Languedoc in southern France. It's as if when it comes to tall buildings Paris authorities just completely lose their sense of aesthetics (we've seen that before). I can't see a tower like that one, which would fit nicely in Pyongyang, able to reconcile the residents of the City of Paris with skyscrapers. If they want to traumatize Parisians once again and generate a new 30-year long ban on skyscrapers in the City of Paris, then well done!















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Old September 24th, 2008, 06:51 PM   #1847
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Ouch ! That's... strange but interesting
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Old September 24th, 2008, 06:55 PM   #1848
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If Parisians allow this to be build I'll become a monk and won't touch a girl for the rest of my life j/k/.

Joke aside, I wish they'll build it but... it's most unlikely.
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Old September 24th, 2008, 07:12 PM   #1849
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I'm afraid maquette and renderings make it seem lighter, but I think once built it will look more 'concrete'

Just similar to Marina Baie des Anges Residence in Villeneuve-Loubet (French Riviera) IMO
Probably in some way these buildings inspired this strange pyramid





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Old September 24th, 2008, 07:35 PM   #1850
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Should be Paris called "the Grande Motte-upon-Seine" ?

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Old September 24th, 2008, 07:50 PM   #1851
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Genius Loci, don't depress me more. Anyway, I didn't expect anything good from Delanoë. This guy has the worst tastes I can possibly think of, or rather, no taste at all (cf. his choice for Les Halles four years ago).

Anyhow, bad news is compensated by good news, I've got the best news of the year for the Parisians forumers (only Parisian forumers are concerned): according to the Canard Enchaîné, the Paris court of appeal will FINALLY hear Huchon's case on Oct. 8 and 10!!

If the court of appeal confirms the sentence of the court of first instance, Huchon is out by the end of the year. So we may very soon get rid of this ectoplasm who has slowed down the Greater Paris region since 1998. That the Socialists could pick such a do-nothing to (mis)lead the largest urban area in the EU says a lot about their disdain for Paris. Anyway, this is the best news of the year so far!
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Old September 24th, 2008, 08:48 PM   #1852
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It's already lost 30m in height...
I wouldn't be suprised if the project finally becomes a mere 37m tall cylinder next week or so..

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/depeches/[email protected],0.html
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Old September 24th, 2008, 08:57 PM   #1853
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Interesting but to be reworked. It supposed to be a "link" as the design concept states.
But it is also either a screen or a spike in more distant vistas, hardly a link really.

I'm so depressed by the try hard attitude of some planners. I'm sure H&DM can come up with something more integrating at every scales considered.
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Old September 25th, 2008, 05:39 PM   #1854
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The project of a tower at the Porte de Versailles was officially unveiled today by the mayor of Paris Bertrand Delanoë, and surprise surprise, the height is now back to 200 meters (655 feet). The architect Jacques Herzog even says he hopes to bring the height of this skyscraper to 211 meters (692 feet) to surpass the Montparnasse Tower as the tallest skyscraper in the City of Paris proper.

Here is the article in Le Monde where they talk about the tower's height: http://www.lemonde.fr/culture/articl...ens_id=1099072

Below, Jacques Herzog standing next to a render of the tower. Herzog said his tower is meant to be the anti-Montarnasse Tower, a tower open to the outside contrary to the "rigid" and "unwelcoming" Montparnasse Tower. Nice words, but I still don't like his tower. It would be more appropriate on the Strip in Las Vegas.

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Old September 25th, 2008, 05:49 PM   #1855
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Old September 25th, 2008, 06:29 PM   #1856
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The tower is to the left, the 15th arrondissement starts in the end of the street where the Haussmannian buildings are located, Issy-les-Moulineaux is in the back of the photographer. The tramway is the T2 (not the T3) coming from Issy-les-Moulineaux.




The tower is to the right, the tramway to the left is the T3, the 15th arrondissement is to the left, Issy-les-Moulineaux is to the right.
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Old September 25th, 2008, 07:07 PM   #1857
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A particularly accurate comment from a reader of Libération, on the newspaper's website, which I am translating in English:
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For those who know the nightmare that it is to reach the Porte de Versailles from the centre of Paris (one single Métro line, 40 minutes trip), 5,000 jobs announced in this new tower means 7 overcrowded (as usual!) RER trains, but since no RER serves the Porte de Versailes, it then means 14 overcrowded (as usual!) Métro trains. So, before construction starts, they'd better add the 14 Métro trains necessary to transport the 5,000 office workers that this new tower will host. Otherwise, it's just a bit more of the overcrowdedness. The Paris authorities, who apparently take only taxis, should think about it!
I think this reader is quite right. Reaching Porte de Versailles is going to become crazy with the added activity generated by this tower, given that there's only one Métro line that goes there. It would have made much more sense to build a tower at Montparnasse next to the Montparnasse Tower where there is one of the biggest transportation hub in Paris and indeed in Europe. Unfortunately the current mayor of Paris, for all his bravado, is just scared to build skyscrapers in the hypercenter of Paris, just like his predecessors since the 1970s, despite the fact that the hypercenter is where the public transportation sytem is the densest and where building skyscrapers makes most sense.
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Old September 25th, 2008, 08:27 PM   #1858
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They showed a video of the Herzog & De Meuron's tower on the France2 mid-day TV news. You can watch it here, it's at 22:20 into the video: http://jt.france2.fr/13h/

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View of Herzog & De Meuron's tower in the distance as seen from La Défense. The tower is located 7.7 km (4.8 miles) from La Défense as the crow flies.
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Old September 25th, 2008, 08:40 PM   #1859
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one thing i really don't get with that tower is the cladding type...i would have prefered a glass reflecting facade...

those asperities look too much like those pyramids in egypt...
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Old September 26th, 2008, 12:12 AM   #1860
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A longer video showing Herzog & De Meuron's tower. In the video, Herzog claims that the Porte de Versailles is one of the biggest transport hubs in Paris. That's really a big joke. That claim, probably suggested to Herzog by the Socialist/Green Paris city hall, is based on the fact that there will be two tramway lines at the Porte de Versailles on top of the one single Métro line serving the area, but the feel-good tramway can't really be compared to heavy transportation over long distances such as the Métro and the RER. Truth is, the Porte de Versailles is not a big public transport hub like Montparnasse, Saint-Lazare or La Défense, which should be priority locations for new skyscrapers if only the Delanoë team had a holistic approach of the city instead of seeking short-term PR glory by building isolated "monuments" in not so convenient locations. Sigh...

Here is the video: http://www.pavillon-arsenal.com/videosenligne/index.php
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