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marrio415 · June 29th, 2006, 04:53 AM

in the end london doesn't need skyscrapers to make it a world class city cos it's been world class without them for years.Where as you see Dubai,Shanghai,Moscow,etc puting up scrapers everywhere to try and become world class cities and still they can't compete with london cos london is the financial powerhouse city of the world a stock exchange that is bigger than new york and tokyo put together.London is more unique than any other city of the world in my eyes.But i will say it will be nice to see theses scrapers going up.it will just make london even classier and more powerful.(the dark side has spoken(lol).

***wjfox*** · June 29th, 2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by marrio415

a stock exchange that is bigger than new york and tokyo put together.

London might be a bigger financial centre overall, but its stock exchange is dwarfed by New York's. Please get your facts right.

* 1- New York Stock Exchange - $13.9
* 2- Tokyo Stock Exchange - $4.65
* 3- NASDAQ - $3.76
* 4- London Stock Exchange - $3.25
* 5- Euronext - $2.96
* 6- Toronto Stock Exchange - $1.62
* 7- Frankfurt Stock Exchange (Deutsche Börse) - $1.38
* 8- Hong Kong Stock Exchange - $1.30
* 9- Milan Stock Exchange (Borsa Italiana) - $0.89
* 10- Madrid Stock Exchange (BME Spanish Exchanges)
* 11-SWX Swiss Exchange

Rankings of Exchanges by Market Capitalization (in trillions of US dollars).

Newcastle Guy · June 29th, 2006, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wjfox2002

Please get your facts right.

give him a break Will, he's new

***Tubeman*** · June 29th, 2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo

I agree....the city will have the highest quality, and stunningly designed buildings, but the boasting that verges on arrogance by some fellow Uk forumers does go over the top somtimes......and so what if one or 2 people disagree and insult London???..who gives a shit, the buildings will speak for themselves when they are built, and not everyone will....or has...to like them.

The classiest, most stylish, most high quality things in life don't shout their greatness from the rooftops......they ouze quality in a rather understated way .

The thing is I never said 'London will have the best skyline lalala' or 'London will have the best skyscrapers lalala', what I said was nowhere on Earth will you be so closely surrounded by such quality as the square in front of St Helens. I still stand by this assertion. Pleanty of cities have plenty of nice skyscrapers, but they aren't all arranged on adjacent plots of land around a small square like Lloyd's, Willis, SwissRe, 122 Leadenhall and DIFA will be.

I can think of nowhere in NYC, Hong Kong, Paris, Frankfurt, Chicago (etc) that will have the same effect, correct me if I'm wrong.

***wjfox*** · June 29th, 2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tubeman

The thing is I never said 'London will have the best skyline lalala' or 'London will have the best skyscrapers lalala', what I said was nowhere on Earth will you be so closely surrounded by such quality as the square in front of St Helens. I still stand by this assertion. Pleanty of cities have plenty of nice skyscrapers, but they aren't all arranged on adjacent plots of land around a small square like Lloyd's, Willis, SwissRe, 122 Leadenhall and DIFA will be.

Yeah, exactly.

Within a space of about 200 square metres you'll have a whole cluster of famous and iconic landmarks.

ferge · June 29th, 2006, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wjfox2002

Yeah, exactly.

Within a space of about 200 square metres you'll have a whole cluster of famous and iconic landmarks.

Yeah, I'm sure EH will agree when they're squinting to get a view of St Pauls, lol..

They'll not be landmarks to everyone, the Gherkin was because it was the biggest thing to go up in the city for years and was a design that was unfamiliar to everyone.. not all of these towers will get such a warm welcome (and its not had the best of receptions from all either!) So yeh, we'll love them but.. be a lot of people angry at their presence on an historic skyline.. sod em, mind

marrio415 · June 29th, 2006, 02:58 PM

As regards me saying london stock exchange is bigger than new york and tokyo put together i was going by what was said on sky news buisness report last week but you seem to have the facts that refute that

***wjfox*** · June 29th, 2006, 03:13 PM

London's foreign currency exchange is bigger than NY and Tokyo combined.

The stock exchange is something different.

***SE9*** · June 29th, 2006, 03:48 PM

Yep thats right.

Citibank's London office (the Euro HQ) is the company's world-centre for Fx.

NothingBetterToDo · June 29th, 2006, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubeman

The thing is I never said 'London will have the best skyline lalala' or 'London will have the best skyscrapers lalala', what I said was nowhere on Earth will you be so closely surrounded by such quality as the square in front of St Helens. I still stand by this assertion. Pleanty of cities have plenty of nice skyscrapers, but they aren't all arranged on adjacent plots of land around a small square like Lloyd's, Willis, SwissRe, 122 Leadenhall and DIFA will be.

I can think of nowhere in NYC, Hong Kong, Paris, Frankfurt, Chicago (etc) that will have the same effect, correct me if I'm wrong.

Sorry tubeman...that wasnt an attack on what you had said. But more an attack on the people who bleet on about "London being best city in the universe and you are a fucking, trolling little cunt if you dare to disagree with me...

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That attitude gets on my nerves and just encourages more anti London comments.

***wjfox*** · August 15th, 2006, 10:49 AM

This morning, Stefen Hester (Chief Executive of British Land) confirmed during presentation of BL's first quarter 2006 results and review of London City developments that demolition of the existing building at Leadenhall will get underway in the beginning of 2007.

"Design work is progressing on the Leadenhall Building to facilitate demolition of the existing building at the beginning of 2007 for delivery in 2010".

AXISPAW · August 15th, 2006, 12:26 PM

well i would like to add about all these people who are anti london or think that there is no building going on, just take a look at this pic. this will be london in 7years time. if you think about it, where else in the world do you have 2 skylines completely different from each other in the same city( if there is please show me and my appologies) like newyork it is a fantastic city but the skyline is the same anywhere you look the same goes for asian cities such as tokyo and shanghai!
but look at this pic and you have canary wharf which looks like the metropalis from the superman comics and then the city of london thats looks like the city of oz, both in the same city!! not even to mention the shard and other mini clusters going up! as tubeman and wjfox2002 suggest, london is putting up huge clusters of buildings but in an iconic fashion and not just dumping skyscrapers wherever in a jumbled mess to try and compete on the world stage!

DarJoLe · August 15th, 2006, 12:39 PM

London won't look like that in 7 years time. Close, but not exactly like that.

AXISPAW · August 15th, 2006, 12:49 PM

well as you say close and id say very close, becasue most of those buildings you see there are comfirmed and some under-construction! but anyway it was the general point i wanted to give to people!

***Tubeman*** · August 15th, 2006, 12:56 PM

The City should look like that (except Minerva), but I'd be surprised if Canary Wharf gets any more tall commercial space by then, so that's 5x buildings that won't be there (2x North Quay, 2x Riverside South & Columbus)... Much less dense.

Mr Bricks · August 15th, 2006, 01:01 PM

never mind

***wjfox*** · August 15th, 2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubeman

I'd be surprised if Canary Wharf gets any more tall commercial space by then, so that's 5x buildings that won't be there (2x North Quay, 2x Riverside South & Columbus)... Much less dense.

Riverside South or Heron Quays West will almost certainly be built by then. Canary Wharf is crammed full of tenants at the moment and they will have to expand soon.

Phil · August 15th, 2006, 01:04 PM

There's still Minerva and Columbus so it can't be exactly like that anyway.
However the city should be pretty close to that. It could even be better. But i'm not sure about Canary wharf, 7 years will be rather short to build Riverside South + North quay + Heron Quay, imo anyway.

EDIT : I'm so slow

Mr Bricks · August 15th, 2006, 01:08 PM

Riverside south is the only one that is approved isn´t it?

AXISPAW · August 15th, 2006, 01:29 PM

phil your right maybe 7 years for the wharf is short, perhaps like tht in 10, 12years maybe, minus colmbus, but north quey is pretty much approved just delayed for aother 10years isnt it? minus minerva and ok 12years will look pretty much like tht, my appologies for getting it wrong, lol. i got frustrated with anti london twats!!

June 29th, 2006, 03:48 PM	#109
*SE9* South East Nine Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South London Posts: 16,915 Likes (Received): 892	Yep thats right. Citibank's London office (the Euro HQ) is the company's world-centre for Fx. __________________ SE9's photos on flickr

August 15th, 2006, 10:49 AM	#111
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 36,172 Likes (Received): 924	This morning, Stefen Hester (Chief Executive of British Land) confirmed during presentation of BL's first quarter 2006 results and review of London City developments that demolition of the existing building at Leadenhall will get underway in the beginning of 2007. "Design work is progressing on the Leadenhall Building to facilitate demolition of the existing building at the beginning of 2007 for delivery in 2010". __________________ FutureTimeline.net - a timeline of future history

August 15th, 2006, 01:01 PM	#116
Mr Bricks Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Helsinki Posts: 5,248 Likes (Received): 28	never mind __________________ Helsinki http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...516&highlight=

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Mr Bricks Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Helsinki Posts: 5,248 Likes (Received): 28	Riverside south is the only one that is approved isn´t it? __________________ Helsinki http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...516&highlight=

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June 29th, 2006, 04:53 AM	#101
marrio415 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mansfield and Oxford UK Posts: 815 Likes (Received): 6	in the end london doesn't need skyscrapers to make it a world class city cos it's been world class without them for years.Where as you see Dubai,Shanghai,Moscow,etc puting up scrapers everywhere to try and become world class cities and still they can't compete with london cos london is the financial powerhouse city of the world a stock exchange that is bigger than new york and tokyo put together.London is more unique than any other city of the world in my eyes.But i will say it will be nice to see theses scrapers going up.it will just make london even classier and more powerful.(the dark side has spoken(lol).

June 29th, 2006, 02:58 PM	#107
marrio415 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mansfield and Oxford UK Posts: 815 Likes (Received): 6	As regards me saying london stock exchange is bigger than new york and tokyo put together i was going by what was said on sky news buisness report last week but you seem to have the facts that refute that

June 29th, 2006, 03:13 PM	#108
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 36,172 Likes (Received): 924	London's foreign currency exchange is bigger than NY and Tokyo combined. The *stock* exchange is something different.

August 15th, 2006, 12:26 PM	#112
AXISPAW Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 835 Likes (Received): 5	well i would like to add about all these people who are anti london or think that there is no building going on, just take a look at this pic. this will be london in 7years time. if you think about it, where else in the world do you have 2 skylines completely different from each other in the same city( if there is please show me and my appologies) like newyork it is a fantastic city but the skyline is the same anywhere you look the same goes for asian cities such as tokyo and shanghai! but look at this pic and you have canary wharf which looks like the metropalis from the superman comics and then the city of london thats looks like the city of oz, both in the same city!! not even to mention the shard and other mini clusters going up! as tubeman and wjfox2002 suggest, london is putting up huge clusters of buildings but in an iconic fashion and not just dumping skyscrapers wherever in a jumbled mess to try and compete on the world stage!

August 15th, 2006, 12:39 PM	#113
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,667 Likes (Received): 394	London won't look like that in 7 years time. Close, but not exactly like that.

August 15th, 2006, 12:49 PM	#114
AXISPAW Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 835 Likes (Received): 5	well as you say close and id say very close, becasue most of those buildings you see there are comfirmed and some under-construction! but anyway it was the general point i wanted to give to people!

August 15th, 2006, 12:56 PM	#115
*Tubeman* Jubilation Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London SE15 Posts: 18,121 Likes (Received): 324	The City should look like that (except Minerva), but I'd be surprised if Canary Wharf gets any more tall commercial space by then, so that's 5x buildings that won't be there (2x North Quay, 2x Riverside South & Columbus)... Much less dense.

August 15th, 2006, 01:04 PM	#118
Phil For great justice Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,402 Likes (Received): 0	There's still Minerva and Columbus so it can't be exactly like that anyway. However the city should be pretty close to that. It could even be better. But i'm not sure about Canary wharf, 7 years will be rather short to build Riverside South + North quay + Heron Quay, imo anyway. EDIT : I'm so slow

August 15th, 2006, 01:29 PM	#120
AXISPAW Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 835 Likes (Received): 5	phil your right maybe 7 years for the wharf is short, perhaps like tht in 10, 12years maybe, minus colmbus, but north quey is pretty much approved just delayed for aother 10years isnt it? minus minerva and ok 12years will look pretty much like tht, my appologies for getting it wrong, lol. i got frustrated with anti london twats!!