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Old December 4th, 2008, 07:41 AM   #2361
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Hmm,
sorry but I hate any building that has anything to do with religion.

The fascade looks nice though.
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Old December 4th, 2008, 09:42 AM   #2362
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Well, I think that the developer of this superstructure worked very hard to build this building. Put yourselves into the hands of the architects who were given the job of designing Abraj al Bait.
When you think, you assume and when you assume you are not sure- and I am not sure if the architects worked hard enough just as you think.

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First, they need to build a hotel for the pilgrims. If they build a shorter one, this will make no difference than the original hotels that were demolished to make way for this hotel. Plus a taller hotel can accommodate more people bringing more money to hotel owner. ( we cannot blame them if they want business ).
You are right but height does not have to be monstrous and obese. Have both and there's not much art left in architecture.

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Secondly, if the architects wants the building to be cladded with glass, they can do so. however, they take their time concentrating on the details of the building to make it blend with the surrounding. They incorporated arches, tents, stone cladding and many more. this building is also designed in a very short time due to the needs of this building to accommodate pilgrims ASAP. So, bravo to the architects for creating harmony in designing this building in such short period of time.
You've got to be blending kidding. Let's not be like the meccayopic architects that designed this.

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Thirdly, the location of the building cannot be blamed. If they build the building far from the Masjidil Haram, not many people are gonna stay there because they need to walk for a long distance. This will bring slow business for the hotel and mall of the building. The closer the hotel to Masjidil Haram, the better because pilgrims can get to Masjidil Haram faster.
Too bad....and this is supposedly used during a period of personal sacrifice....let those pilgrims walk!

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]Fourthly, making the structure tall has to do with what i called the 'landmark effect' when you looked at other cities around the world, if you are traveling by land based transportation towards the city, what signs tells you are getting closer to the city? the landmarks of course. you know you are getting closer to paris when you see the Eiffel tower, to Manhattan when you see ESB, to Kuala Lumpur when you see Petronas Twin Towers. the same thing applies here. Pilgrims arriving from Madinah, Jeddah can know that they are getting closer to Mecca when they see Abraj al Bait from far.
Well, based on your line of reasoning, we all can tell we're getting close to London if we see the clock tower. Does that make any sense?

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Lastly, if you say this building is tacky and vegasy, you are wrong because if you look megahotels in vegas like venetian, mandalay bay, bellagio , etc... they build the hotel in Y shape. this building have 5 separated towers (correct me if im wrong) sit on a podium that make it look like a cluster of towers instead of las vegas blocks of dominoes.
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If you think this building is tacky, why don't you design it yourself within the same time as given to the architects of Abraj al Bait.
We all like to design the A Bait....and with the amount of money spent on this project, the architects have no excuse for such a bad and tacky and tasteless design.
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Old December 4th, 2008, 10:52 AM   #2363
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I hope the above post is meant to be a devil's advocate and not just to antagonize the positive points of this skyscraper.

This could not be built anywhere else. I love the detail of the facade. What greater way to integrate culture and modern supertall architecture.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 03:25 AM   #2364
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I can't get over the scope of this project. I know it's not taller than the Burj, but it's huge in comparison.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 02:39 PM   #2365
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What is it floors count?
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Old December 7th, 2008, 01:02 AM   #2366
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What is it floors count?
Wikipedia, emporis and skyscraper page say 76. I dont know what it is at this exact moment though.
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Old December 7th, 2008, 02:52 AM   #2367
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Wow------

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Old December 7th, 2008, 03:18 AM   #2368
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It's really starting to grow on me now this tower/s.
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Old December 7th, 2008, 03:22 AM   #2369
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Looks better know. But I wait until its finished for final comment.
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Old December 7th, 2008, 08:12 AM   #2370
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Great photo ! I think now the main tower has surpassed its "cousins" and "nephews"...
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Old December 7th, 2008, 04:49 PM   #2371
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I can't even imagine how it looks from the place where that man standing...
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Old December 8th, 2008, 06:10 AM   #2372
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Judging from that picture, I believe the center tower is now over 1,000 feet in height. Saudi Arabia has a Supertall!
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Old December 8th, 2008, 10:28 PM   #2373
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no, it is just above 260m at the moment, maybe 270m-275m...still a bit to go
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Old December 8th, 2008, 10:46 PM   #2374
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and of course no one draws diagram of progressing 'Abraj Al Bait'

I always have no idea of how tall this thing is because there's no tracker on this structure.
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Old December 8th, 2008, 10:47 PM   #2375
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the 2 towers left and right to it are 260m, that's enough for me
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Old December 9th, 2008, 12:22 AM   #2376
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and saudi arabia already has a supertall.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 04:31 AM   #2377
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i saw that picture, its interesting when Abraj Al-Bait will complete..and i stand at roof top that tower..what will i can see...??
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Old December 9th, 2008, 05:23 PM   #2378
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Did you saw this in singapore?

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I stumbled upon this while passing in front of a Muslim travel exhibition.
Nothing official but it seems that Abraj Al Bait's tallest tower could have undergone a drastic redesign.

This seems to be no higher than 300m tall, if other towers' heights remain unchanged (which seems likely).


Looks like some kind of helipad on the top, instead of the giant crown and spire.
Hello, Did you come across this poster in singapore?
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Old December 9th, 2008, 06:14 PM   #2379
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i saw that picture, its interesting when Abraj Al-Bait will complete..and i stand at roof top that tower..what will i can see...??
Mostly desert. If you lean out a lot and look straight down, you might be able to see the town and possibly the Masjid al-Haram.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 06:25 PM   #2380
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that's the old design
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