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Old December 14th, 2008, 12:38 PM   #2401
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Judging the design by west standards or the new supertalls in Asia is at least unfair. If the people of Kuwait and the visitors like it, this is more than enough to me. Personally I don't like the design, which, yes, is very Las Vegas, but if most other (thousand) projects in the Arabian peninsula tend to follow that trend, then it becomes a new architectural style and identity. I may never quite get used to it though, it's like Neo-Baroque, more composed and Doric structure is what skyscrapers are all about.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:28 PM   #2402
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beautiful design
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Old December 16th, 2008, 01:27 PM   #2403
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sorry for not being informed... but what will happen with that huge piece of empty land on the other side?
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Old December 16th, 2008, 06:57 PM   #2404
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This is the proposed design but we hear that there are some changes to this latest design too and anyway the changes will be known soon inshallah (God willing) because Foster and zaha hadid got involved in the new design and it should be approved after one month.

Anyway till the moment, this is the proposed design:

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Old December 16th, 2008, 07:01 PM   #2405
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Old December 16th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #2406
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wasn't this posted before?
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Old December 16th, 2008, 07:23 PM   #2407
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Is this even technically or economically possible? Even if it is, it needs decades to be build, this might very well surpass in floor space even Dubai projects, thats just insane!
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Old December 16th, 2008, 07:31 PM   #2408
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why should it take decades to build???
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Old December 16th, 2008, 08:07 PM   #2409
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Is this even technically or economically possible? Even if it is, it needs decades to be build, this might very well surpass in floor space even Dubai projects, thats just insane!
It's Saudi Arabia. If they want something done, they will get it done. lol
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Old December 16th, 2008, 08:38 PM   #2410
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omg... that looks huge... black rock seems so tiny comparing to that background...
i believe they could build it in round 10-15 years...
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Old December 16th, 2008, 08:39 PM   #2411
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why should it take decades to build???
Hm let me see, around 50 skyscrapers 40-80 floors as far as I can see, plus 2 more supertalls like Abraj Al bait plus the reconstruction of the pilgrim site, plus the general landscape transformation (around 4 square kilometers), and acording to Google earth observation, the dust and earth needed to be relocated to match the topography will be second to Dubai's palm islands. I suspect then that this project is at least equal to Dubai's Downtown, including Burj Dubai, with almost certain more floor space. Dubai's project started around 2002 and it migt be hard to be finished in 2009, maybe 2010 if everything is ok. This makes it 8 years, but this project, since is way bigger, can easily take 10-12 at least. So here you go, time table in decade.
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Old December 16th, 2008, 08:40 PM   #2412
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just the worst idea possible, that domino art or whatever people call that is just so crap. Its Mecca and they certainly can come up with better ideas to use that space instead of repeated dull dominos circulating around the holy mosque.
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Old December 16th, 2008, 09:29 PM   #2413
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That picture is pretty old and it has been already posted many times before .. its not a proposal, just a vision.
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Old December 17th, 2008, 04:08 AM   #2415
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That picture is pretty old and it has been already posted many times before .. its not a proposal, just a vision.
Thanks God!!

But Is true that Foster and Zaha Hadid are involved in a new design?
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Old December 17th, 2008, 09:08 AM   #2416
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But Is true that Foster and Zaha Hadid are involved in a new design?
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Foster and Hadid in running to remake Mecca

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Friday, 28 November 2008


Two of Britain's most-renowned architects are in the running for the single most audacious renovation in history: the redevelopment of Mecca.


Norman Foster and Zaha Hadid are among 18 architects to have been approached about redesigning Islam's holiest city by building a mosque complex to host the three million Haj pilgrims who visit every year. The development would more than triple the central al-Haram mosque's current 900,000 capacity, making it the highest-occupancy building in the world.

The plans are thought to be backed by Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz. The remit is to "establish a new architectural vision" for Mecca's 356,800sq m mosques complex. The King is to be presented with the proposals by Hadid, 58, and Foster, 73, with those of the other designers at an exhibition at the end of the month.

Sources close to the project told The Architect's Journal the scheme is likely to be phased, the first stage taking the al-Haram mosque capacity to 1.5 million. That would rise gradually until three million was reached. Neither Foster nor Hadid wanted to comment on the project last night. Hadid's spokesman said he "could neither confirm nor deny" speculation, while Foster's office said: "It has been leaked and not from us so I'm unable to comment."

Other sources describe the project as divided into two "tracks", one looking at various alternatives for the northern expansion of the al-Haram complex, and the other at the al-Haram itself. Lord Foster's firm, Foster & Partners, has been invited to partake in the former with 10 other firms including, reportedly, Atkins Design.

Zaha Hadid, with six other world-renowned firms, has been given the task of re-envisioning the al-Haram mosque itself, as well as "revisiting the whole area of the central district". British engineers Adams Kara Taylor and Faber Maunsell are also thought to be under consideration


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Old December 17th, 2008, 11:58 AM   #2417
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Is this even technically or economically possible? Even if it is, it needs decades to be build, this might very well surpass in floor space even Dubai projects, thats just insane!
It is possible technically and economically. And it wouldn't take decades to be built. Neither Pudong nor Shenzhen nor Dubai needed decades. When the construction boom began, everything rised pretty quickly. I don't see why this one should be soooo impossible for a country like Saudi-Arabia... I would be more scseptical in other countries.
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Old December 17th, 2008, 06:17 PM   #2418
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Update: Al Bayt Medical Center (The medical center of Abraj Al-Bayt) is now almost opened and completed except installation of some remaining little equipment and will open officially and work with full capacity after 1 month exactly inshallah (God willing).

The web site is still under construction http://albaytonline.com/ or http://albaytweb.com/
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Old December 17th, 2008, 06:22 PM   #2419
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Old December 17th, 2008, 09:37 PM   #2420
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Saudi Arabia...the land that taste forgot.
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