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Old March 14th, 2009, 08:38 PM   #2701
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height hotel ?
I think it's around 330 m at the moment
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Old March 14th, 2009, 11:57 PM   #2702
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definitely above 310m now.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 12:33 AM   #2703
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^ is 17 floors over the side towers..and how much is that??is it something like 70 - 85 m??
btw,the side towers is 235 m
so,yeah it's almost 310 m or a bit more
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Old March 18th, 2009, 12:19 AM   #2704
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i am amazed of the size of this project

but it brings to my mind an association with this hotel from Las Vegas



I wonder what the Muslims think about this huge project situated just next to their most sacred temple?
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Old March 18th, 2009, 12:25 AM   #2705
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^you have asked old questions. the abraj albait complex doesnt really look like vegas world. also the muslims are used to idea now of new complex. its progress.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 08:13 AM   #2706
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I'm sure must if not all the developers are muslims. They're not building this on top of the kaapa, just across from it. Im sure it was a problem at first but it shouldn't be now.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 09:17 AM   #2707
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Yes they are. The main door to the kabaa is also gold.
I don't think so, because the black and golden color we see in the pic is clothes that covers Kaabah. And how do we make an Arabic letter made of gold if it is a clothe?


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Old March 18th, 2009, 11:42 AM   #2708
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I don't think so, because the black and golden color we see in the pic is clothes that covers Kaabah. And how do we make an Arabic letter made of gold if it is a clothe?


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gold thread ofcource? thats not exactly somthing new
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Old March 18th, 2009, 04:26 PM   #2709
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I don't think so, because the black and golden color we see in the pic is clothes that covers Kaabah. And how do we make an Arabic letter made of gold if it is a clothe?


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sorry, couldn't help it
just read this article
http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.a...ion=7&id=11183




about the door I think it's obvious

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Old March 18th, 2009, 09:01 PM   #2710
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^Interesting. thanks.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 06:54 AM   #2711
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Absolutely stunning! The design elements and sense of balance and harmony in traditional art of the region drives me NUTS! But in a good way.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 04:28 PM   #2712
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First I didn't like this project, but all photos are great. For now it is one of my favourites.

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This is fantastic. I've leraned calligraphy at an universtiy. I loved this classes. How often do they change the Kiswah?
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Old March 21st, 2009, 06:53 PM   #2713
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How often do they change the Kiswah?
twice a year
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Old March 21st, 2009, 06:57 PM   #2714
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Why so often?
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Is there a museum or a site on the internet, whre you can see the old ones?
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Old March 21st, 2009, 07:46 PM   #2715
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The old covering with all its related pieces is handed to the Saudi government, which it divides into smaller parts in accordance with particular considerations, and which it then bestows as gifts to senior guests, officials, a number of religious institutions, international institutions and Saudi embassies abroad.
some old photo:
in 1880

in the 1940's

in the 1950's

2009
image hosted on flickr
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Old March 21st, 2009, 08:22 PM   #2716
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The old covering with all its related pieces is handed to the Saudi government, which it divides into smaller parts in accordance with particular considerations, and which it then bestows as gifts to senior guests, officials, a number of religious institutions, international institutions and Saudi embassies abroad.
okay, no museum
Thaks for help and the info
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Old March 21st, 2009, 09:25 PM   #2717
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okay, no museum
Thanks for help and the info
actually there is a museum,it called (Makkah's museum) but is in Makkah

Presents the stages of building the Grand Mosque and the old pictures of the Hajj flights
Mecca Museum reveals the history of the region for visitors and pilgrims

Many of the pilgrims and visitors to the capital to visit the holy relics and the Islamic Mecca, one of the most important priorities, such as with: Ghar Heraa, Mount Thor, a mosque, a pledge and the Museum of Mecca.

The visit is the Museum of Mecca, which was established by the Ministry of Education, was taken from the palace of King Abdul-Aziz al-based, and the concentration of the date of Mecca since the first creation to the present, Tgeha antiquities dating back to ancient times, and pictures tell the stories of the events took place across the Mecca.

The area of the palace, which is held by the Museum of 3425 square meters, spread over an area of 1200 square front square meters, square meters of the main building of the palace, and the Supplement to rear area of 425 square meters, with the remaining space filled the streets and corridors of the palace.

The ground floor consists of the palace hall decorated with pillars and ceiling decorations and paintings of plant and engineering units Itustha Majesty term "God", are stationed in the middle of the hall fountain of colored marble, topped by the Dome of the palace portable circular column 24 is divided between the two roles, and the lounge overlooking the number of rooms set aside to display the features of Mecca, Saudi Arabia and the effects of pre-history, also made by the Office of the Director of the museum and its staff.

And reviewed the parade ground in the middle of the hall the geological and natural history of Mecca, and the rooms located on the left side of the hall had been allocated to the VIP lounge, and the effects of pre-Islamic Mecca, and the library and then up to the corridor, which was the headquarters of the Department of Women's Museum.

Allocated rooms in the right side of the upper floor of the palace to view the Biography of the Prophet, and the evolution of writing, currency, and the pilgrimage, while Haad has the left side of the building the Grand Mosque, Saudi Arabia and the three stages, education, and heritage in Mecca and display masterpieces of Islamic art.

It devoted the first room of the Museum of Mecca and the effects of heritage and historical monuments in the UK, where pictures of the most important monuments and historical areas in the Kingdom, with a view to the definition of some of those features, such as inscriptions, rock drawings, castles, pilgrim routes, cities, facilities, historic mosques, and the findings excavations, which have been allocated five cabinets to display a selection of antiquities that were discovered during excavations in the regions of the Kingdom. The offer includes parts of utensils Saabooni supply of the metal site in the province of Taif, and tools from the Stone Age, made of flint stones from the Riyadh region, and a group of pottery from the red and industrial sites in the province of Tayma which dates back to the first millennium BC, and pottery from the site of the stone "Madain Saleh," dating back to 100 BC year, and a variety of pottery from the eastern region, and pieces of pottery from the site south of Dhahran, dating back to the third millennium BC, pottery and parts of the site of the dishes she found in the region of Jazan.

It also houses the Museum of Prehistory, which lists the history of the Arabian Peninsula, and airspace dry and warm, whose reputation so far, and periods of cold and heavy rains that were falling down in alternating periods of over three million years ago, which helped the types of animals and plants to live , while the man was then often frequented springs in search of hunting and food, leaving behind some of the stone tools that are no longer needed.

The hall in the museum devoted to the natural environment of Mecca, he was part of the natural history and geology of the environment in the region, in addition to the types of organisms, which maintained the survival of the components of a result of the Kingdom's keenness on protecting wildlife in Mecca in particular, and the UK in general, and the Geological Survey offer different types of precious stones contained in the mountains of Mecca in eight cabinets were displayed in the lobby of the museum to see when visiting the museum entry.

Can Museum of visiting Mecca during the identification of the emergence of Mecca and their ancient pre-Islam, which was the year the Forum includes all aspects of human activity in the Arabian Peninsula, economic, social, cultural, religious, pilgrimage and the home-building, and a winter and summer, and the incident that he wanted the elephant Ahbash invasion of Mecca.

Hall also includes an inscription written in pen, ascribed to various South and North, and the inscriptions Tmdep, the inscriptions of persons belonging to Ozmenthm period before Islam.

The Hall of the hajj, the distinguished halls of the museum, the large size, the value of the material, which represents an open book on the pilgrimage, where the different ways leading to Mecca, supported by maps and pictures of the stones Almellip which was placed on the road to guide the pilgrims during their journey to and from Mecca and Medina, and castles that served as rest of the pilgrims, as well as room for the old photographs and modern pilgrimages to the sacred feelings.

It also has a hall in the museum for the presentation of the stages of building the Grand Mosque from the era of Caliphs, to the Abbasid and Umayyad era, the era of the Ottoman Caliphate, to the expansion of the Saudi state, which was the last major expansion was in the era of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Fahd bin Abdul-Aziz - may Allah have mercy on him - and was presented the building and the Kaaba Xotha, in addition to the presentation model of the Grand Mosque in the center of the room.

Tell the Saudi State by word and image and map, epic of the founding of the State of today's renaissance of physical, economic, and political sovereignty, thanks to its rulers and its people's adherence to governing law of God and the year's blessings and peace be upon him.

Hall will also present a series of documents going back to the era of Imam Turki bin Faisal, the Saudi state from the era of the second, and documents from the reign of King Abdul Aziz Bin Abdul Rahman - may God have mercy on him - in addition to the currencies of Saudi Arabia and paper and metal back to the Saudi state first, second, third, and a rare of stamps.

The Hall of Mecca's heritage of many Turathiat in ten large display cabinets, tools included the desert, industry Kusiat, ancient weapons, tools, agriculture, fishing and cooking food and drink, Alidhaouat, Dallal, coffee, water, and women's clothing and cosmetics.

As presented in the Hall of Masterpieces of Islamic Art, a selection of Islamic artifacts dating back to the different Islamic periods, including the tractor, and decorative ceramic dishes Balzacharv and plant engineering, and the Candelabra brass with decorative tapes and written, and the trays were filled with charges of copper plant, in addition to a group of eastern carpets .

Visitor and watched in the Biography of the Prophet Alidhaouat some brilliant biography of the Messenger of God from birth until his death, also includes cabinets and the room was a fraction of the average time for pottery and porcelain early Islamic, taken during the drilling and expansion in the region of Mecca's Holy Shrine.

Deals with the evolution of writing the history of Arabic writing from the start, and the types of lines, and places carved in the Mecca region, in particular in the UK in general, the most famous calligraphers Arabs in Mecca, and writing materials and tools, as well as the types of lines and forms, and the script, and the subject for which the inscription text, include the text of a constitutional architecture of the mosque or the faithful soul, of the 931 A.D, and the script line inscription, which dates back to the second century AH, and another dating to the ninth Hijri, the text of a constitutional way for the establishment of an e year 1542 A.D, in addition to another set of inscriptions .

The number of the currencies of various forms of Islamic currency and measurements, and due to successive periods of Islamic history, indicating their names, especially in the region of Mecca, with four rooms display cabinets, each one was a set of coins, are grouped to give a clear idea of visiting on the history of currency, and place minting, and the name of the ruler or the caliph, who was silent during his rule.
by the way this museum is free entry...
is on the the Western entrance for makkah (Makkah-Jeddah express road)
some photo's
the museum from the out side:




ladder for al-Kaaba from the year 1808




Compartment cover, which was covering Ibrahim's -peace be upon him- stand before replacement in the era of King Fahd bin Abdaziz




from the year 1820 A.D :




the roof drainer from the year 1770 A.D




this column of Teak, one of the columns of the Kaaba dated back to Abdullah ibn Zubayr, in 728 AD and painting shows the format of these columns inside the Kaaba




Kaaba's door lock from the 1500's A.D




[IMG]Kaaba's door from the year 1608 A.D[/IMG]



Kaaba's door from the year 1867 A.D


Solar sundial to determine the times of prayers before the printing and dissemination of the Islamic calendar, and was present on the surface of Zamzam, a dated 1123

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Old March 22nd, 2009, 12:05 AM   #2718
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It looks nice! Ive seen a lot of plans from different towers and huge buildings but this one is different. It has something what makes it unique!
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 02:07 PM   #2719
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@rody
that was a lot and interesting info. Thanks a lot
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 04:57 PM   #2720
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^ don't mention it,at any time
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