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Old September 12th, 2009, 08:13 AM   #3201
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yes yes 4 now
I think this tower will be the tallest tower in saudi arabia for 4-10 years
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Old September 20th, 2009, 10:09 PM   #3202
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any recent pics please ?
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Old September 21st, 2009, 10:04 AM   #3203
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any new updates?
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 10:58 AM   #3204
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Man, with this unbelievably informative statement you saved the day.
aahhh....good old sarcasm..always puts a smile on my face..
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 11:37 AM   #3205
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It was worth that other guy saying that to get that response from "tesseract"! Good Work
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 12:27 PM   #3206
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any new updates?
since it was ramadan last month I think they will have stopped the work during this time anyway. at least this was the case last year if I remember correctly.
anyone here from mecca who can confirm this?
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 03:43 AM   #3207
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thanks for updates. ive worked out core is just under 400m.
its the 15th skyscraper to reach 400m in world history!

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Old September 23rd, 2009, 11:03 AM   #3208
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and how many floors?
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 03:46 PM   #3209
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thanks for updates.
You have recent updates? Please show 'em ...
or maybe you go with oli83, that due to ramadan it's just the same as on Saudi guy's photos from 24/8/2009.
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ive worked out core is just under 400m.
its the 15th skyscraper to reach 400m in world history!
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...including both twins of Petronas Towers and the fallen NYC World Trade Center, and excluding the spires of John Hancock Tower and Empire States Building, I suppose.
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and how many floors?
It's on the diagram: "lev90" = 90 floors
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Old September 24th, 2009, 04:11 PM   #3210
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...but is lev90 prove?
Many sources (like Wikipedia) tell only about an overall of 76 floors. If the clock area, which begins at around 400m, was counted out, we'd be at lev74.
But obviously there are already more floors. I've counted 25 from podium to the beginning of the tower shaft, plus 55 full levels so far on Saudi guy's pic from 24/08/2009. Four of them might be double floors, giving lev84 for the highest floorplate, plus a few more for the core at the top... so Culwulla could be right, and the other sources are definatelly wrong.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 05:44 PM   #3211
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Wow, great progress, almost there !
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Old September 24th, 2009, 08:47 PM   #3212
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...but is lev90 prove?
Many sources (like Wikipedia) tell only about an overall of 76 floors. If the clock area, which begins at around 400m, was counted out, we'd be at lev74.
But obviously there are already more floors. I've counted 25 from podium to the beginning of the tower shaft, plus 55 full levels so far on Saudi guy's pic from 24/08/2009. Four of them might be double floors, giving lev84 for the highest floorplate, plus a few more for the core at the top... so Culwulla could be right, and the other sources are definatelly wrong.
I'd bank on Culwulla's answer - his tracking of projects here in Chicago has always been spot on.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 06:23 AM   #3213
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Old September 26th, 2009, 10:55 PM   #3214
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Unbelievable.

Nice building and all, but every time I look at it, I feel incredibly mad at the Saudis for allowing the construction of such a huge monstrosity so close to a sacred place. Would take off from the holy feeling for millions when while doing their prayer rituals and being absorbed in God-consciousness and exercises of humility, they look up and see the giant looming suites of a luxury hotel staring down at them.

How distasteful. I think whoever allowed this building's construction was extremely self-centered.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:02 AM   #3215
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I hate how gigantic this supertall is....I shouldve never had been built at the fist time. The clock and the spire are simply ugly
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Old September 27th, 2009, 06:07 AM   #3216
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Unbelievable.

Nice building and all, but every time I look at it, I feel incredibly mad at the Saudis for allowing the construction of such a huge monstrosity so close to a sacred place. Would take off from the holy feeling for millions when while doing their prayer rituals and being absorbed in God-consciousness and exercises of humility, they look up and see the giant looming suites of a luxury hotel staring down at them.

How distasteful. I think whoever allowed this building's construction was extremely self-centered.
I respect your comment but think it this way.
If it were a 40 storey building. Would it be the same case? I think not. No one would be distracted.
Now go back 150 years back and put the same 50 storey block then. You might be making the same comment about that 50 storey building.
So now, go forward 50-60 years in future, this would be an ordinary tall building. I think, this building is made to fullfil a requirement. A requirement to accommodate millions of pilgrims that visit this sacred place. Right now, people get accommodation miles away from Mosque and they have to travel a long distance to reach the mosque on foot. Its painful. Lets be positive.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 07:36 AM   #3217
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I dont think a giant mis-positioned 100 story structure is the answer for accommodation's sake. There are lots of other ways to achieve the same target in a much better way. They could have developed a tiered high-rise plan ringing the mosque that doesn't start off with monsterous towers right next to the mosque that dont even allow for its own expansion.

As far as your comment about the tower's height not fitting in historically goes, the question is not more about the height as it is of the proximity of the building. Sure build high. Build as high as the sky, but build it a distance away from the mosque so it is not imposing directly over on top of it. This one is just a plain distraction from the holy atmosphere around the Haram.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 08:18 AM   #3218
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When i see the critics of that tower i remember something similar in London.
The UNESCO had problems with location of The London Bridge Tower. All the britisch forumers were angry at the UNESCO. Foreigners want to the tell Brits where they can or can not build a skyscraper. Unbelievable.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 08:55 AM   #3219
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It's definitely much "wider" than most supertalls, amazing picture there.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 09:10 AM   #3220
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Yes, the building is inelegant in its proportions and insensitive to its location by western standards. But who are we to suggest that it "shouldn't" be built there? Obviously a project of this size had to have some public support to get approved, even in Saudi Arabia. Sure, we can laugh at it, but it is a significant accomplishment and far taller than anything likely to be built in Europe or America in the near future.
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