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Old September 27th, 2009, 12:41 PM   #3221
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Terrifically ugly..They should shroud it in a burka when it is complete!
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:17 PM   #3222
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that's so mean. But it's really funny.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 02:20 PM   #3223
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Yes, the building is inelegant in its proportions and insensitive to its location by western standards. But who are we to suggest that it "shouldn't" be built there? Obviously a project of this size had to have some public support to get approved, even in Saudi Arabia. Sure, we can laugh at it, but it is a significant accomplishment and far taller than anything likely to be built in Europe or America in the near future.
The building is "inelegant in its proportions and insensitive to its location" by the standards of any person that has a grasp on aesthetics not only by western standards as you like to call it. The west (as if that's a singular entity that is the gauge of everything tasteful) is capable of creating more hideous monstrosities than this.

You're trying to underhandedly praise yourself "as a westerner" with your little "generous" comment over here but you're not fooling anyone.

And no, no popular opinion was involved in this project....only the whim and fancy of megalomaniacal tyrants. So stop blaming the bad taste of those 3rd world masses...."it's relevant because those tasteless Arabs like it"...pfffft, whatever
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Old September 27th, 2009, 05:21 PM   #3224
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When i see the critics of that tower i remember something similar in London.
The UNESCO had problems with location of The London Bridge Tower. All the britisch forumers were angry at the UNESCO. Foreigners want to the tell Brits where they can or can not build a skyscraper. Unbelievable.
Mecca and Medina are holy cities important to more than a billion Muslims all over the world. Sure Saudis manage it cause they happen to be in their kingdom, however they need to take the sensitivities of the entire world muslim population in mind when they consider development in these cities. Think about what effect there may be if Italy started considering the building of a giant football stadium right next to the Vatican.

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Terrifically ugly..They should shroud it in a burka when it is complete!
Totally agree.

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Yes, the building is inelegant in its proportions and insensitive to its location by western standards. But who are we to suggest that it "shouldn't" be built there? Obviously a project of this size had to have some public support to get approved, even in Saudi Arabia. Sure, we can laugh at it, but it is a significant accomplishment and far taller than anything likely to be built in Europe or America in the near future.
I think you are forgetting that The Kingdom is not a democracy.
And why should you just praise a building just because its tall I don't think that is the only criteria one should use to judge the merit of a building.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 02:55 AM   #3225
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guys, stick to posting construction photos or chat. anything else is spamming.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 03:24 AM   #3226
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I think you are forgetting that The Kingdom is not a democracy.
And why should you just praise a building just because its tall I don't think that is the only criteria one should use to judge the merit of a building.
The Saudi people "approve" by allowing their theocratic regime to step all over them in any number of ways. It's been claimed by American liberals that, "You can not impose democracy, it has to develop by itself from within." If that is indeed the case, then you can hardly blame the Saudi royalty for not cutting off their own heads nor excuse the population for allowing itself to be cowed so easily.

Furthermore, knowing the level of fanaticism that many Muslims faithful can be driven to, do you really think it is unlikely that the people who approved this thing which casts a shadow over Islam's most sacred site, did not carefully take Muslim public opinion into account?

As for the height, that will be the project's main bragging right in a Middle East culture that lately has been measuring the size of its manhood by the size of its buildings. In that regard, it will be considered significant, even if we still choose to laugh at how ungainly it is. Size is important to them, just ask anyone who was in New York on 9/11/01.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 04:58 AM   #3227
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did you not see the post right above yours?
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Old September 28th, 2009, 09:04 AM   #3228
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The Saudi people "approve" by allowing their theocratic regime to step all over them in any number of ways. It's been claimed by American liberals that, "You can not impose democracy, it has to develop by itself from within." If that is indeed the case, then you can hardly blame the Saudi royalty for not cutting off their own heads nor excuse the population for allowing itself to be cowed so easily.

Furthermore, knowing the level of fanaticism that many Muslims faithful can be driven to, do you really think it is unlikely that the people who approved this thing which casts a shadow over Islam's most sacred site, did not carefully take Muslim public opinion into account?

As for the height, that will be the project's main bragging right in a Middle East culture that lately has been measuring the size of its manhood by the size of its buildings. In that regard, it will be considered significant, even if we still choose to laugh at how ungainly it is. Size is important to them, just ask anyone who was in New York on 9/11/01.
What are you going on about?
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Old September 29th, 2009, 02:25 AM   #3229
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How big are the casinos going to be?
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Old September 29th, 2009, 12:30 PM   #3230
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The Saudi people "approve" by allowing their theocratic regime to step all over them in any number of ways. It's been claimed by American liberals that, "You can not impose democracy, it has to develop by itself from within." If that is indeed the case, then you can hardly blame the Saudi royalty for not cutting off their own heads nor excuse the population for allowing itself to be cowed so easily.

Furthermore, knowing the level of fanaticism that many Muslims faithful can be driven to, do you really think it is unlikely that the people who approved this thing which casts a shadow over Islam's most sacred site, did not carefully take Muslim public opinion into account?

As for the height, that will be the project's main bragging right in a Middle East culture that lately has been measuring the size of its manhood by the size of its buildings. In that regard, it will be considered significant, even if we still choose to laugh at how ungainly it is. Size is important to them, just ask anyone who was in New York on 9/11/01.
There seems to be more soapbox, speculation and generalization in this post than logic. I don't think I even want to respond to this.

Btw, Cullwalla is right. Argument time is over. back to building chatter.
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Old September 30th, 2009, 09:09 AM   #3231
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this city is getting completely trashed by these projects. i do NOT understand them and the architecture confuses me
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Old September 30th, 2009, 10:08 AM   #3232
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Could be the new Arabia casino in Las Vegas. I like it.
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Old October 1st, 2009, 03:12 AM   #3233
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This building is blending in very well.
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Old October 1st, 2009, 03:25 AM   #3234
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Not my cup of tea but interesting still.
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Old October 1st, 2009, 04:23 AM   #3235
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^its a very big cup of tea. one of the worlds largest skyscrapers.
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Old October 1st, 2009, 01:11 PM   #3236
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^ So it's a shame that it's also one of the ugliest skyscrapers. The design's straight out of Las Vegas, although it's unfair to judge it before it's finished.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 01:42 AM   #3237
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that's a strange architecture but I like unusual things...:-) However I must admit it looks a little bit too Sovietic for me...does anyone know the prices of the rooms? :-)
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 10:45 PM   #3238
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What a montrousity.
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Old October 4th, 2009, 08:45 PM   #3239
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Guessing the scale on this tower is tricky - I would never have guessed that it is already almost 400 meters tall in the pic above.
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Old October 4th, 2009, 09:09 PM   #3240
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