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Old October 30th, 2009, 05:05 AM   #3361
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Old October 30th, 2009, 05:20 AM   #3362
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A single oil barrel is around 80 US$, multiply that by 20,000,000 barrels per day, multiply that by 365 days per year and that's around 500 billion dollars per year. I doubt that the Saudi economy makes more than 100 billion US$ each year from the hajj travellers.
i read some time ago that they make about 89 billion Saudi Riyals (about 24 billion dollars) per year from pilgrimage. but then there is the costs too

i think about 90% of Saudi income is from oil. they are diverting that by new investments now adays.
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Old October 30th, 2009, 10:58 PM   #3363
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Old October 31st, 2009, 01:28 AM   #3364
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We're living in a globalized world and countries shouldn't decide about their heritage alone.
Well as he mentioned, non-muslimsare not even allowed to go there so while I would agree with your statement most of the time, I don't agree in this case.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 09:44 PM   #3365
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I think everything will be fine. If all the buildings in the world were 5 stories tall on average and they decided to build a 15 story building in Mecca there will be some protests as well. Just because it's big doesn't mean it's bad. Then again "big" is relative.
this isnt about it being big. its about a hideous piece of shit being built next to the holiest place in a billion + person religion.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 09:49 PM   #3366
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Old November 1st, 2009, 01:51 AM   #3367
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this isnt about it being big. its about a hideous piece of shit being built next to the holiest place in a billion + person religion.
OK, although your piece of eloquence doesn't desirve even noticing, I want to comment here. First of all, (and execuse me for using your rude words when you say "a hideous piece of shit"). My friend, all pieces of shit are hideous, I don't know why you believe otherwise. Second, if you are fakely trying to show sympathy and respect for the holiest place, then you should have shown some respect in choosing a more respectful vocabulary. If you don't know, many people look up to this forum, so please don't deform it with your bad words.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 01:01 AM   #3368
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To be honest you could say the same of every intersection in every city.

Its all a cross.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 09:31 AM   #3369
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ye but some would still see impending cataclysm with this anti-christ cross or whatever that section would look like
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Old November 1st, 2009, 11:29 AM   #3370
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this isnt about it being big. its about a hideous piece of shit being built next to the holiest place in a billion + person religion.
I gotta say a huge 10 million cubic meter building looks a little inappropriate next to Al Masjid Al Haram, but such is progress and I think Saudi officials see it that way too.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 12:26 AM   #3371
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When I think about it- it's their problem and their heritage. If they want to destroy it- they can destroy it. A non-Muslim can't go there anyway so I don't actually care.
There are many other places with well-preserved Islamic architecture which looks good even though it wasn't rebuilt many times. Take the Golden Dome in Jerusalem as an example- it's one of the oldest mosques on Earth and although it looks almost like it looked 1,300 years ago- it still looks good and is one of the landmarks of Jerusalem although almost no serious modifications have been made:


But again, their heritage, their country- their decision.
I find this ban for non-Muslim quite a nonsense (how do you prove to be Muslim?) but, anyway, it's their country and their culture, this rule does no harm to anybody so I respect it. And I see your point too, Muslim world has plenty of marvellous places to visit, thankfully open to those who're not part of the Umma. But this makes this project even more odd, why should they not preserve the most precious place for Muslims while many other are?

I see the need for more accommodation and bigger spaces for pilgrims, and I see nothing wrong in enlarging the Mosque and the access roads but... why building up a sort of Las Vegas overlooking it? I don't like very much money so close to faith. (must be the reason it's been a while since I stepped in a Church!)
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 07:22 PM   #3372
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I liked the way they presented these facts here

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Old November 6th, 2009, 05:44 AM   #3374
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OK, although your piece of eloquence doesn't desirve even noticing, I want to comment here. First of all, (and execuse me for using your rude words when you say "a hideous piece of shit"). My friend, all pieces of shit are hideous, I don't know why you believe otherwise. Second, if you are fakely trying to show sympathy and respect for the holiest place, then you should have shown some respect in choosing a more respectful vocabulary. If you don't know, many people look up to this forum, so please don't deform it with your bad words.
i am not reffering to the mosque as that, im talking about this lame excuse for a building. and it is shit.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 07:01 AM   #3375
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It's so incredibly easy to communicate your opinion in a respectful way. Why not do it that way?
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Old November 6th, 2009, 07:28 AM   #3376
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I liked the way they presented these facts here

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Old November 6th, 2009, 12:26 PM   #3377
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It's so incredibly easy to communicate your opinion in a respectful way. Why not do it that way?
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Old November 6th, 2009, 05:17 PM   #3379
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Old November 6th, 2009, 08:24 PM   #3380
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