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Old November 6th, 2009, 09:09 PM   #3381
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Only two floors and some additional cladding in one month. They need to work faster.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 07:35 PM   #3382
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very much cranes but what are they doing??
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Old November 7th, 2009, 09:55 PM   #3383
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I liked the way they presented these facts here

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Ugh. I don't like all this gluttony and excessive consumption overshadowing the holiest place of my faith. It lacks spirituality.

Al-Haram is a place where the poor and rich can be indistinguishable.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 10:06 PM   #3384
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indeed, especially the line in which they brag about this building's costs equalling 32 countries GDP's, disgusting! Even more so when you look at the list, including dirt-poor countries such as Sierra Leone and Swasiland. This is basically having a laugh at the less fortunate by showing off their oil-dollars.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 10:38 PM   #3385
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Ugh. I don't like all this gluttony and excessive consumption overshadowing the holiest place of my faith. It lacks spirituality.

Al-Haram is a place where the poor and rich can be indistinguishable.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 10:46 PM   #3386
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I gotta say a huge 10 million cubic meter building looks a little inappropriate next to Al Masjid Al Haram, but such is progress and I think Saudi officials see it that way too.
progress towards what? What does this mean to be progress? This is not progress, this is a hideous development built by corrupt developers.
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Old November 8th, 2009, 02:46 AM   #3387
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i think this looks out of place
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Old November 8th, 2009, 03:00 AM   #3388
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indeed, especially the line in which they brag about this building's costs equalling 32 countries GDP's, disgusting! Even more so when you look at the list, including dirt-poor countries such as Sierra Leone and Swasiland. This is basically having a laugh at the less fortunate by showing off their oil-dollars.
Exactly, this what happens when you compare!
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Old November 9th, 2009, 07:12 AM   #3389
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Ugh. I don't like all this gluttony and excessive consumption overshadowing the holiest place of my faith. It lacks spirituality.

Al-Haram is a place where the poor and rich can be indistinguishable.
That is one way of looking at it. The fact remains that the wealthy of the world will seek out comfort wherever they go, including hajj. Also, let's not forget that Saudi Arabia will run out of oil at some point in the future. In such a scenario, if a project like this can help sustain the facilities for everyone by making some money off the wealthy Muslims of the world that are willing to part with their wealth then why not?

By the way, the rich and the poor ARE indistinguishable in Al-Haram. It's when they go outside that some get to stay at a nicer place.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 08:09 AM   #3390
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great up date...
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Old November 9th, 2009, 11:56 AM   #3391
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during hajj season it will slow down, for the safety of the 5 million pilgrims & other reasons
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Old November 9th, 2009, 03:11 PM   #3392
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progress towards what? What does this mean to be progress? This is not progress, this is a hideous development built by corrupt developers.
Read my post again. I said that I thought it was inappropriate as well, so don't direct your anger towards me. But I understand why it would be seen as progress to Makkah officials and the developers. Humanity is on an ever-increasing path towards urbanization, and no holy site or otherwise is going to stop that forever.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 06:37 PM   #3393
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i think this looks out of place
Im not muslim but i think the same thing I dont like how it looks besides the holy place it makes it looks like nothing.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 06:38 PM   #3394
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I am muslim and i feel the same, its a nice building but in the wrong location, it should never have been built so close to the holly mosque, i am going to mecca in 2 week time for hajj so ill have a better look at it when i am there.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 07:06 PM   #3395
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Why do you just believe, Faith is only second hand.
When you go deep in yourself you will find the godliness
inside you. The key is meditation.
Sorry for off the topic.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 07:46 PM   #3396
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Only 1,005 Rooms? I was expecting much more (at least 5,000) from the building with the largest floorarea.

I stayed once at a Hotel in Tokyo and it boasted over 3,000 rooms in just a couple of 30-stories buildings.
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Old November 9th, 2009, 08:32 PM   #3397
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I am muslim and i feel the same, its a nice building but in the wrong location, it should never have been built so close to the holly mosque, i am going to mecca in 2 week time for hajj so ill have a better look at it when i am there.
is it possible for you to take some photos? would be nice, if could go in the interior!
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Old November 9th, 2009, 09:09 PM   #3398
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is it possible for you to take some photos? would be nice, if could go in the interior!
Ill have my mobile phone with me so i will try
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Old November 12th, 2009, 10:33 AM   #3399
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When I think about it- it's their problem and their heritage. If they want to destroy it- they can destroy it. A non-Muslim can't go there anyway so I don't actually care.

But again, their heritage, their country- their decision.
So, by that logic it was OK that the Taliban destroyed the Buddhas? Let's face it - this is a hideous building; a giant ego-maniacal statement of wealth over God with no real justification. There were plenty of other places they could have built it, they just want to squeeze every last drop out of rich hajis willing to pay for a view of the mosque.
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Old November 12th, 2009, 01:04 PM   #3400
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great updates abum! looks huge
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