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Old March 30th, 2007, 05:29 PM   #441
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Old March 30th, 2007, 05:55 PM   #442
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i just cant believe the arabian government.

they destroy the little historical landmarks we have and make way to build this monstrocity.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 07:13 PM   #443
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good job culwulla!
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Old March 31st, 2007, 03:21 AM   #444
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577m? not 485m?
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Old March 31st, 2007, 10:10 AM   #445
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its ok, but will all the construction workers be muslims?
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Old March 31st, 2007, 01:48 PM   #446
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its ok, but will all the construction workers be muslims?
Sure. only muslims are allowed in Makkah and that is one of main reasons that Saudi Binladin Group is the main contractor of many huge projects there since it has the manpower, professional engineers and foremen to build such huge projects and even better than many european and asian contractors.
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Old March 31st, 2007, 08:15 PM   #447
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Sure. only muslims are allowed in Makkah and that is one of main reasons that Saudi Binladin Group is the main contractor of many huge projects there since it has the manpower, professional engineers and foremen to build such huge projects and even better than many european and asian contractors.
that cool! i knew only muslims were allowed in, but was just wondering. the saudi binladin group. any relation to osama bin ladin?
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Old April 1st, 2007, 01:56 PM   #448
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As far I know, no relation since they disowned him long time ago.

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Binladin name 'hijacked'

Binladin Group built the pyramid-shaped Faisaliah Center in Riyadh

Bin Laden - the name is reviled in much of the Western world, but shared by one of Saudi Arabia's largest business empires.
The respected name of the Binladin group - which uses the traditional English spelling of the family name - has been "hijacked", said the half-brother of Osama Bin Laden in the first interview by a family member since the attacks on the US.

In the early 1990s, the family repeatedly reached out and made attempts to plead with Osama to moderate his views ... after these attempts failed, there was a reluctant but unanimous consent that Osama should be disowned

Abdullah Mohammed Binladin
"Our name is being hijacked," Abdullah Mohammed Binladin told the Boston Sunday Globe.

Though there is no evidence of financial links between Osama Bin Laden and the $5bn-a-year Saudi Binladin Group, some business partners have quit joint ventures.

The family disowned Osama Bin Laden in 1994, and Mr Binladin said they have no connections with him.

"In the early 1990s, the family repeatedly reached out and made attempts to plead with Osama to moderate his views," Mr Binladin said.

"After these attempts failed, there was a reluctant but unanimous consent that Osama should be disowned."

Family business

The Saudi Binladin Group is operating with Royal privilege and associated with most of Saudi Arabia's prestigious construction projects.

Mohammed Bin-Awad Binladin built his business on links with King Faisal

Though it is trying to extend its business globally, the bulk of the Binladin Group's business remains in the kingdom.

Founder Mohammed Bin-Awad Binladin, originally from the Hadramaut region of Yemen, designed and built the al-Hada road in the 1950s, for Muslims to make the pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia.

This gained him the trust of Saudi Arabia's King Faisal, who hired him to rebuild the mosques in Mecca and Medina, the holiest sites in Islam.

After Mohammed died in 1967, control of the family business passed first to his son Salem, and then to another son Bakr, after Salem's death in a plane crash in 1988.

The Binladin Group also built the pyramid-shaped Faisaliah Center ********** in Riyadh, which opened last year, and restored Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, Islam's third holiest site.

Contracts to build military facilities for US forces in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War are thought to have caused the split between the family and Osama.

Partners review

Despite the failure of some small business deals, most of the Binladin Group's international partners are standing by the company, though some are keeping the situation under review.

The Faisaliah Center: Lucrative construction contract

Dutch ABN Amro bank, which owns 40% of a Saudi bank that has dealt with the Binladin Group for seven decades, said it has no evidence of wrongdoing.

"If there is *** information regarding a client which would lead us to revaluate the relationship or review the relationship then we will not hesitate to do so," an ABN spokesman said.

Chas W Freeman Jr, a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia and now chairman of Projects International, a Washington company that arranges global business deals, said he would continue discussing proposals with the Binladin Group.

But he added that some companies which have had "very long and profitable relationships" with the group were "now running for public relations cover".

He blamed ignorance, and said the Binladin name remained "very honoured" in the kingdom.

Damage limitation

But some businesses have not taken any chances that their images could be damaged.

"Given the events of the past two weeks, we will be monitoring the situation closely," said Citigroup, which provides banking services to the Binladin Group.

The UK soft drink and confectionery company, Cadbury Schweppes, has severed ties with a Saudi distributor owned by a Lebanese holding company in which the Binladins have a minority stake.

A Cadbury Schweppes spokeswoman said that the attacks on the US prompted it to speed up an earlier decision to cut ties because of slow sales.

"I think it is understandable," she said.

Multitone wireless networking of Britain suspended dealings with Baud Telecommunications, a Binladin Group subsidiary, after the terrorist attacks.

"At times like this, businesses such as ours... have a duty to act with total integrity," said Michael Walker, chief executive, but noted the company does "very little" business in Saudi Arabia.

Abdullah grounded

Meanwhile Abdullah, who at 35 is the youngest of the 54 children born to wives of the late Mohammed Bin-Awad Binladin, has remained in Boston Massachusetts while the rest of his US-based relatives have gone into hiding.

He told the Boston Sunday Globe that since 11 September he had stopped using credit cards and avoids using his name for fear of upsetting strangers.

Mr Binladin, who moved to the Boston area in the 1990s and earned a doctorate at the Harvard Law School, has also suspended his hobby of flying single-engine planes.

He last saw Osama at the funeral of their oldest brother, Salem, in 1988.

"He had been living most of the time in Afghanistan," Abdullah recalled.

"I personally did not know him very well."

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Old April 2nd, 2007, 05:59 PM   #449
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I have been told that there are studies now to increase the height to 600M but still not officially. I am not sure that height will be increased 100% but I just wanted to share it with you all.

I hope to be official soon inshallah
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 08:29 PM   #450
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lol, in the end that tower will override Burj Dubai
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 10:55 PM   #451
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not that high
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 01:42 AM   #452
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 10:33 AM   #453
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I have been told that there are studies now to increase the height to 600M but still not officially. I am not sure that height will be increased 100% but I just wanted to share it with you all.

I hope to be official soon inshallah

577m to 600m? that's not a huge improvement is it? how will the extra little height help? maybe they should make it taller...and get rid of that clock...it's pretty hidious...
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Old April 4th, 2007, 10:52 PM   #455
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I read an article about this towers today and and in article writen that these towers are hurting history.
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Old April 4th, 2007, 11:02 PM   #456
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I read an article about this towers today and and in article writen that these towers are hurting history.
Could you give the site where that stands on?
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Old April 4th, 2007, 11:08 PM   #457
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it's not a nice building...huge and nothing original, looks like Staline's buildings in Moscow...
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Old April 5th, 2007, 01:17 AM   #458
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577m to 600m? that's not a huge improvement is it? how will the extra little height help? maybe they should make it taller...and get rid of that clock...it's pretty hidious...
No i think the clock is quite important and should stay there. Remember, muslims pray five times a day at specific times. A clock like this i think will be very useful for its position.
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Old April 5th, 2007, 05:04 AM   #459
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They are demolished historical site just for this modern building.
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Old April 5th, 2007, 05:57 AM   #460
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They are demolished historical site just for this modern building.
Oh it's not the first time. The Saudi's are notorious for pissing on the history of other nations. They've demolished several historic Ottoman buildings (including the 220-year-old fortress of al-Ajyad) as well as houses, castles and cemeteries just for building new developments in Mecca and Medina.

Now this hideous monstrosity is being built. Yes, there might be demand for it, but guess what? Pilgrims have been going in and out of Mecca for centuries. The historic houses (now demolished) in the area surrounding Masjid al-Haram contained local communities which openly accepted pilgrims into their homes.

And a 5 star hotel? Don't they realise that not all pilgrims can afford this? Abraj Al-Bait, as large as it may look, will only house around 65 000 people at a time, and most of them will be permanent residents.
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