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Old October 29th, 2010, 04:17 PM   #6101
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Old October 29th, 2010, 04:41 PM   #6102
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Here are some pic I took on 19 and 20 Oct. I hope no one has difficulty in seeing abraj-al-bait in these pics.

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I got caught in a huge traffic jam while taking pics of clock tower in "Shi'ab Amir tunnel" due to this accident

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The man was taken out and was lying down a few steps ahead, he was alive at that time.

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Its hard to take pictures when you're in a car and especially at the Ajiyad down hill

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Old October 29th, 2010, 07:34 PM   #6103
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@Makkawi.Pk

Thank you for those nice pictures from quite nice angles of the city. I have never been to Makka but it seems to have a lot of tunnels there.

It looks like they finally prepare the backside for the installation of the clock panels.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 07:46 PM   #6104
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Bottom-line: People like you exist on every singles street, they themselves know nothing about art (and I don't care if you have done a Ph. D in arts) and they themselves have no taste. They just go in a social gathering and bla bla bla ........................................
i don't really get the connection between your little story - on which i suppose you worked a lot - and that highly sophisticated bottomline you managed to conclude. (i guess this is a story you tell a lot when you run out of professional arguments - which i assume happens a lot too)

i am an architect and yes i studied art as well. a lot about islam actually, which was one of my favorites. yet, i don't think i am THE expert of any fields. but one does not have to be to see how little aesthetic value this building represents, how out of proportion it is, and how unattentive to its environment.

also i can understand your defensive attitude as well. in a frustration from having to face this beast every day, the only thing you can do is to persuade yourself that it is not ugly. believe me my friend it is. it is like a giant fake jewel that might enthrall those with a simple mind and who need tons of kitsch to be amazed but will disgust those who can see real beauty.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 08:07 PM   #6105
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LOL! I never used that story because I don't like to force my opinion in the arguement. About the rest-no comments. And my bottom lines means if you hate it, design something better, don't just sit here and complain
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Old October 29th, 2010, 08:28 PM   #6106
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Where are the moderators?????????
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Old October 29th, 2010, 11:41 PM   #6107
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:27 AM   #6108
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It doesn't matter what angle you look at it always gives the illusion not of being centered. I know it's not finished, but because that it looks kind of awkward. I am stoked about the project, and can't wait for the spire to be erected or jacked up!
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Old October 30th, 2010, 12:40 AM   #6109
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We are all waiting for December
But it still looks great
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Old October 30th, 2010, 04:08 AM   #6110
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It doesn't matter what angle you look at it always gives the illusion not of being centered. I know it's not finished, but because that it looks kind of awkward. I am stoked about the project, and can't wait for the spire to be erected or jacked up!
I think they did that on purpose because I noticed that being that it is not centered it shows you which direction the temple is from all angles. Kinda like how wtc2 is designed to express which direction the memorial is.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 05:22 AM   #6111
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you can't say mosque ?
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Old October 30th, 2010, 05:40 AM   #6112
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I like this one with the birds

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Old October 30th, 2010, 09:33 AM   #6113
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I don't think its nice to write the sentence "Alla Acbar"
Anyway hows things are going? I caaaaaaan't wait for this tower to be ******* built already!!!!!
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Old October 30th, 2010, 09:42 AM   #6114
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"God is great" in Arabic means : Allaahu Akbar, how is it not nice ?
this term is used by arabs of all religions, arab Christians, arab jews and arab muslims.
please respect
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Old October 30th, 2010, 10:31 AM   #6115
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Mashallah, I can't wait for this to be finished soon
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Old October 30th, 2010, 10:47 AM   #6116
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[QUOTE=abumuhannadh;66085645]with all respect and totally agreeing on the part that Mohamed is A messenger among many, i dis agree that that sentence means a messenger. because in Arabic (and i believe you are an Arab) to say a messenger of Allah, it has to be "rasoolun min Allah"

now can you give me another Arabic sentence that would mean "the messenger of Allah"

in order to translate it as "the Messenger" it has to be in ma'rifah form (Al-Rasool), and not Nakirah. but do you know (المضاف إلى المعرفة معرفة(??
that means as long as Rasool is "mudaaf ila" lafz al jalalah Allah, (a ma'rifah) rasool is also ma'rifah.

so the correct translation will be THE Messenger of Allah.

Even though i aint very literate in Arabic, from all the religious sermons i have heard and all the books i have read nowhere was there any mention of Muhammad (saw) as "a" messenger but always as "the" messenger. So many thanx for the technical explaination which i totally am in agreement with you.
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Old October 30th, 2010, 11:32 AM   #6117
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it all hold the true meaning of islam

Muhammed is a messenger of God (true)
Muhammed is the messenger of God (true)
Muhammed is the final messenger of God (true)

so it doesn't matter how you say it, we call him the seal of the prophets as well
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Old October 30th, 2010, 11:44 AM   #6118
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Old October 30th, 2010, 11:58 AM   #6119
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2 clocks are ticking, third is finished but not ticking the forth one is left

the tower should be finished at the end of december
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with all respect and totally agreeing on the part that Mohamed is A messenger among many, i dis agree that that sentence means a messenger. because in Arabic (and i believe you are an Arab) to say a messenger of Allah, it has to be "rasoolun min Allah"

now can you give me another Arabic sentence that would mean "the messenger of Allah"

in order to translate it as "the Messenger" it has to be in ma'rifah form (Al-Rasool), and not Nakirah. but do you know (المضاف إلى المعرفة معرفة(??
that means as long as Rasool is "mudaaf ila" lafz al jalalah Allah, (a ma'rifah) rasool is also ma'rifah.

so the correct translation will be THE Messenger of Allah.

Even though i aint very literate in Arabic, from all the religious sermons i have heard and all the books i have read nowhere was there any mention of Muhammad (saw) as "a" messenger but always as "the" messenger. So many thanx for the technical explaination which i totally am in agreement with you.

Although this shouldn't really be discussed here, but allow me to disagree with you guys!
Attempting to translate a sentence from Arabic to English using Arabic "Qawa3ed" is absolute non-sense! Neither "A' nor "The" would have the "implications" in Arabic as they do in English, Yes in Arabic Mohammed (PBUH) is "Rasoul Allah", but that doesn't make him "The Messenger" when speaking in English since such term may suggest in a way that he was "The Only Messenger"... Which isn't true whether you were a follower of Islam or any other monotheistic religion (speaking as a secular). Moses is A messenger, Jesus is A messenger... and Mohammed maybe seen by some as "The Final Messenger" but that doesn't make him "The Messenger"!

"Nakirah", "Ma3rifah" and "Modaf Elaih" don't exist in English, that's Enlgish 101, and that's also exactly why translations of the Holy Quran are not considered "Sacred" per se, and why versus should only be recited in Arabic during prayers

Apologies again about discussing this here
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