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Old September 30th, 2007, 03:07 AM   #841
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It was absolutely your heritage, as it was heritage of the region and the Kaaba itself (the castle was created to protect the Kaaba). It is also not the only example. Have a read of post 670 for many more examples.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=670
Protect the Kaba from who? lol
For your information, the fortress was built to protect the Ottoman occupying soliders from the Arabs (us)!
I think that something like that should have been demolished back in the 1930s...

oh and wouldn't be smarter to build a wall around the Kaba to protect it!! lol ... if it was built to "protect" the Kaba!!!!


Anyways, please don't use wikipedia articles to teach us about our own history...

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Old September 30th, 2007, 03:10 AM   #842
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ok its an interesting design but...OMG ITS TOO MASSIVE!!!
Well. The Islam is a big religion and every muslim ought to have visited Mecca once in his life time so Mecca is full off muslims and all those people got to stay somewhere.

That is why this thing is so big in the first place: To accomedate as much iff you can.

And off course being a prestige project off Saudi Arabia.

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Old September 30th, 2007, 05:12 AM   #843
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Update, pic from September 26th:
the best place to take photos for AAB thanks dear

read the articles

''Castle retained full designs and details filmed after careful to rebuild elsewhere .''

''Turkey has not any effort to preserve the Islamic treasures which Serbia destroyed in the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, most of the mosques and buildings with unique architectural type. Did not successive Turkish governments funded the restoration possible restoration of Islamic monuments after stop Serbian aggression. The records UNESCO attest that the Kingdom saudi Arabia is to have done so noble work.'' so why you care about it
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Old September 30th, 2007, 05:34 AM   #844
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All these arguments being made in support of Abraj Al-Bait are contradictory and ridiculous. Yes, pilgrims to Mecca obviously need a place to stay, but in this case it is being spent to show off wealth, which is forbidden. Since when do pilgrims "require" luxury accommodation, world class restaurants and a BOUTIQUE shopping mall?!

It's wrong to call something Al Bait 'The House' as in a reference to the Ka'aba when it revolves around money. What they should focus on is giving as many pilgrims a place to stay while providing them with sufficient amenities.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 05:42 AM   #845
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but it's not prohibited with Islam it's not our fault if other religions dose!
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Old September 30th, 2007, 06:32 AM   #846
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All these arguments being made in support of Abraj Al-Bait are contradictory and ridiculous. Yes, pilgrims to Mecca obviously need a place to stay, but in this case it is being spent to show off wealth, which is forbidden. Since when do pilgrims "require" luxury accommodation, world class restaurants and a BOUTIQUE shopping mall?!

It's wrong to call something Al Bait 'The House' as in a reference to the Ka'aba when it revolves around money. What they should focus on is giving as many pilgrims a place to stay while providing them with sufficient amenities.
very well said connected.this project somehow has some very uneasy undercurrents and to me is very controversial.not to mention it looks hideous next to the beautiful kaaba.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 10:03 AM   #847
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honestly guys it doesnt make any sense to have huge uber extravagant,monolithic structures hugging masjid-al-haraam.the saudis can build all the superlative stuff on the outskirts or away and provide a good integrated transport system for the pilgrims to make their journey from in and around mecca,but that calls for good city planning.what's goin on right now is haphazard construction.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 10:51 AM   #848
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honestly guys it doesnt make any sense to have huge uber extravagant,monolithic structures hugging masjid-al-haraam.the saudis can build all the superlative stuff on the outskirts or away and provide a good integrated transport system for the pilgrims to make their journey from in and around mecca,but that calls for good city planning.what's goin on right now is haphazard construction.

Agreed 100%, Even though i have nothing against the project...
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Old September 30th, 2007, 11:59 AM   #849
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honestly guys it doesnt make any sense to have huge uber extravagant,monolithic structures hugging masjid-al-haraam.the saudis can build all the superlative stuff on the outskirts or away and provide a good integrated transport system for the pilgrims to make their journey from in and around mecca,but that calls for good city planning.what's goin on right now is haphazard construction.
Yes! What's goin on right now is destructive city planning and criminal against history!
But I have nothing against this project out of historical surroundings.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 11:59 AM   #850
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ZZ-II, that picture of urs, WOW. Those towers look amazing. Are those people praying there or what? Looks pretty crowded to me. I've got an impression that in those towers there are men that "sing" or shout when it's time to pray, or something like that. Is that correct?
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Old September 30th, 2007, 12:17 PM   #851
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I think the main problem is that it tooooo close to the holy ground

Thanks Saudi guy for the map
Do you really hink the proposed expansion area for the mosque is large enough?
Maybe for the next 100-250 years, but after?
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Old September 30th, 2007, 12:19 PM   #852
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ZZ-II, that picture of urs
i don't took it , only found it on Flickr
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Old September 30th, 2007, 12:26 PM   #853
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Let's go back to our topic again which is "The construction of Abraj Al-Bait project"

By the way, I heard that height has been increased again but sure I will not post the new height here untill I check the new design my self to be sure of the info.

Expect new height (few meters only) very soon inshallah (God willing)
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Old September 30th, 2007, 12:30 PM   #854
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By the way, I suggest the heighest 5 towers under construction should be sticky topic not only WTB.

If any tower moved from Proposed category to U/C category then the lower one should be removed from sticky list and the new tower takes its place.

Sure only U/C projects can be sticky. What do you think guys?

Most of visitors are checking heighest towers regulary.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 12:30 PM   #855
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again an increasing of the height? wow....now it is probably over 600m
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Old September 30th, 2007, 05:48 PM   #856
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By the way, I heard that height has been increased again but sure I will not post the new height here untill I check the new design my self to be sure of the info.

You need to let us know whether is the new proposed height over 600m
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Old September 30th, 2007, 05:51 PM   #857
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don't worry he will tell us
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Old September 30th, 2007, 05:54 PM   #858
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i am sure the final hieght is clear for months and dream know it
he just wants to give it us in parts like in Series
But we wanna see the movie
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Old September 30th, 2007, 06:20 PM   #859
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terrible, absolutly terrible, too dominating and such a large structure towering over most holy place in Mecca artifcal man-made it show ignorance and pride more than anything else, how did this project even get permission?
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Old September 30th, 2007, 06:27 PM   #860
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Maybe it will look in real life better when finished but in the render it is way too big compared to the surrouding buildings... looks strange
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