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Old July 12th, 2011, 05:02 PM   #8621
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I noticed that quite a few of the green LED's on the clock face are already out? LED's should last a long time, certainly not just a few months. How difficult is it to replace them?
Its been running now for almost a year now, how more should the last?? I don't its hard to replace them.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 05:09 PM   #8622
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I thought LED's lasted 20000 hours minimum. That's (12 hours lighted per day) 4-5 years.

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Properly designed LEDs are wonderful for places that are hard to reach, since they last so much longer than halogen or CFL bulbs. How long they actually will last is hard to tell exactly, since in theory it will take tens of thousands of hours to reach the end of their life (or longer). Because of this, lighting companies are forced to test the bulbs using acceleration techniques to simulate years of life in a short amount of time.
LED bulbs last longer because they don’t have the same issues that standard bulbs do. They simply don’t have the parts (filaments, igniters, etc) that other bulbs do that break and cause a bulb to burn out. Since there are no super fragile parts and there is no breakdown that naturally occurs, they keep working for years and years.

In fact, when most companies list and average life for an LED, they refer to a time when the light produced by the bulb will diminish to 70% of the original maximum brightness. The bulb itself will continue to work well beyond that time frame.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 05:33 PM   #8623
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I noticed that quite a few of the green LED's on the clock face are already out? LED's should last a long time, certainly not just a few months. How difficult is it to replace them?
Must be easy to replace...but maybe hard, long, to check each light.



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Old July 12th, 2011, 05:36 PM   #8624
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That's a lot of bulbs! Times 4! Thanks for that picture.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 06:57 PM   #8625
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Just great... fantastic tower, congratulation Mecca!!!
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Old July 12th, 2011, 07:15 PM   #8626
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Old July 12th, 2011, 07:38 PM   #8627
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i'm reposting this, dedicated to the trolls









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Old July 12th, 2011, 08:11 PM   #8628
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What is the floor area of the complex?

Anyways... gold painted sheet is still a sheet
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Old July 12th, 2011, 08:21 PM   #8629
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Looks like a classic church tower. Also the proportions of the whole complex are just terrible and tasteless.
I think the proportions and lack of surrounding reference points make it hard to appreciate how abnormally tall and massive this complex really is.

Tacky as it may seem now, that may be forgotten in future and it could become one of the landmarks and wonders of the region. Hope it ages well.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 08:24 PM   #8630
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Yeah I agree with you. This style of architecture is neither easy to comprehed (for me) nor appreciate. I´m fond of modern looking glassy skyscrapers (like Shanghai Tower)
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Old July 12th, 2011, 08:40 PM   #8631
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Amazing Skyscraper!

PD: Moder is not only glassy skyscrapers
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Old July 12th, 2011, 08:49 PM   #8632
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I did not say that modern skyscrapers are only glassy But the indisputable fact is that this building will make the city work more smoothly - you know, there´s alot of ppl on hajj and they carry a lot of trash etc.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 09:06 PM   #8633
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The worst of Postmodernism and Stalinism combined to produce a truly dreadful building that is the epitome of vulgarity and bad taste.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 09:46 PM   #8634
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The worst of Postmodernism and Stalinism combined to produce a truly dreadful building that is the epitome of vulgarity and bad taste.
Stalinism? Curious as to how to build that association. Take away the traditional elements of skyscraper form and conventional Arabian architecture and I'm not making the connection.

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Looks like a classic church tower. Also the proportions of the whole complex are just terrible and tasteless.
I'm among those noting the clock tower and spire are out of proportion with the skyscraper as a whole, which I think stands in contrast to classic church towers (or civic buildings, for that matter). But even though the style isn't my preference I can't go so far as to say "tasteless." I'll leave that to the residents of the city to decide.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 09:49 PM   #8635
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Normally I abhore re-posting oversized pics, but I found this perspective fascinating. I didn't realize how the structure literally turns a blind eye to the back side! Granted, there may be ownership or structural restrictions prohibiting such, but the result shows an imbalance to the design: As if they don't want anyone to view it save from the front. Curious.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 09:59 PM   #8636
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i cannot understand how people think this is ugly, it has all, it has the largest floor area, it suits its perfect and as a hotel it is in fact needed instead of some buildings in dubai for example, it is unique of course, it has a classical architecture that so many people miss in glassy buildings, it has size, and its not a normal boring spire but something that actually fits to its location.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 10:01 PM   #8637
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Normally I abhore re-posting oversized pics, but I found this perspective fascinating. I didn't realize how the structure literally turns a blind eye to the back side! Granted, there may be ownership or structural restrictions prohibiting such, but the result shows an imbalance to the design: As if they don't want anyone to view it save from the front. Curious.
this is what will happen to the back side



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Old July 12th, 2011, 10:07 PM   #8638
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Thanks, abu!

Methinks that's too much, actually, and begins to detract from what they've achieved with the primary tower. I like the form of the three buildings that would abut the clock tower, but think they should be lowered to at least 2/3 their height, IMO. The rest of the development should help the project flow with the surrounding cityscape, not rise out of it like a ship that's run ashore.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 10:12 PM   #8639
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this is like a man made mountain
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Old July 12th, 2011, 10:20 PM   #8640
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Stalinism? Curious as to how to build that association. Take away the traditional elements of skyscraper form and conventional Arabian architecture and I'm not making the connection.
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it has the largest floor area
That doesnt make building beautiful.
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