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Old July 21st, 2011, 04:32 AM   #8801
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Makkah Mean Time effective from Ramadan

20 July 2011

MAKKAH – Muslims around the world can now set their watches to Makkah Mean Time in Ramadan when all four faces of the world’s largest clock atop a soaring skyscraper in the Holy City becomes operational.

The clock, more than six times larger in diameter than London’s famed Big Ben, will establish Makkah as an alternate time standard to the Greenwich meridian. At a conference in Doha in 2008, Muslim clerics and scholars presented “scientific” arguments that Makkah time is the true global meridian. They said that Makkah is the center of the world and that the Greenwich standard was imposed by the West in 1884.

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is this really true?
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Old July 21st, 2011, 04:34 AM   #8802
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Mecca, the centre of the world. I don't think so. What inventions, innovations, contributions to furthering mans knowledge and achievements have come out of the Arab world in the last few hundred years. I know about the great contributions to maths and science and architecture , but they were many years ago. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what great centres of learning (not religous)do the Arabs have now, and what have they achieved recently?
I haven't noticed much, but I'm happy to be enlightened.
actually they are talking about it geographically
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Old July 21st, 2011, 05:53 AM   #8803
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Old July 21st, 2011, 05:59 AM   #8804
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actually they are talking about it geographically
http://danutm.files.wordpress.com/20...entred-map.jpg


That's the dumbest thing ever. The center of the world is totally based off of perspective.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 06:35 AM   #8805
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actually they are talking about it geographically
http://danutm.files.wordpress.com/20...entred-map.jpg
That is understandable, but then I am sure you could support another equally powerful fact for almost every position on the world. If the Muslims want to do this, then that is perfectly fine. But my clock will be the same as ever when ramadan comes. (Though the whole concept of such a thing seems rather ridiculous to me since I am not Muslim)
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Old July 21st, 2011, 07:13 AM   #8806
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Who else in the world would even switch to this alternative time? It's just a wacky idea.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 11:28 AM   #8807
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the idea is not taken seriously anywhere, not even in saudi, the media is just making a big deal out of a seggestion
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Old July 21st, 2011, 03:13 PM   #8808
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the idea is not taken seriously anywhere, not even in saudi, the media is just making a big deal out of a seggestion
agreed
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Old July 21st, 2011, 04:08 PM   #8809
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is this really true?
This is a BIG SURPRISE!!!!

If they are really going to change the time the 1rst august, they should advertise ppl more than this!!!

What time it will be???? 21 min more or less???

Makkah center of the world? maybe not exactly I'm not enough good in math to show you...someone have calculate it and find it's 276.92 km away from. I put the video about this ...but please don't get into this subject here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSVCj9SHwHA

For the Makkah Time just wait for some further information.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 05:50 PM   #8810
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I would still like someone to explain to me why the two shorter towers (Safa and Marwah) in front of the Clock Tower, were angled in a way so as to block portions of The Clock Tower and Qiblah's view of the Kaaba?

If the view of the Kabba is the whole point of this massive structure, why is it angled badly so as to block that view?

And don't tell me the "whole point" of this complex is just to accommodate the millions of pilgrims... You could do that by building thousands of smaller projects like a Holiday Inn in the outskirts and build proper public transit to the Mosque.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 05:57 PM   #8811
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You all can argue Makkah Time or GMT all you want. As for me and my peeps, we'll keep using Hammer Time!

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Old July 21st, 2011, 06:05 PM   #8812
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I would still like someone to explain to me why the two shorter towers (Safa and Marwah) in front of the Clock Tower, were angled in a way so as to block portions of The Clock Tower and Qiblah's view of the Kaaba?

If the view of the Kabba is the whole point of this massive structure, why is it angled badly so as to block that view?
I think it was more impoartant that you could see the clock tower and spire from inside the mosque than it was for you to see into the mosque from all facets of the new towers. Plus, the configuration of the existing site and the prospective footprints all but mandated an asymmetrical form.

Thus, I think what we're seeing is the result of many little compromises where the architect is trying to accomodate a certain volume of, and mix of, uses within the overall complex while then marrying that design to the avilable footprint. I also think they eventually embraced the lack of symmetry as a way of better fitting the buildings into the context of the city: Rather than making it look like one monolithic structure that was so overwhelming, this resulting hodge-podge of smaller buildings (to me) better synthesizes the overall development into a city relatively devoid of skyscrapers.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 06:23 PM   #8813
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This building looks close to being done. Does that mean construction of Rawabi Abraj Al-Bait will finally start soon?
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Old July 21st, 2011, 10:18 PM   #8814
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 01:28 AM   #8815
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 04:33 AM   #8816
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Its the space age in Makkah


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Old July 22nd, 2011, 05:05 AM   #8817
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What a shame...

I'll never be able to see the building because I'm not muslim...
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 11:36 AM   #8818
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I'll never be able to see the building because I'm not muslim...
Oh...u can see from this thread.......!!!!!.....
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 12:07 PM   #8819
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I'll never be able to see the building because I'm not muslim...
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 02:11 PM   #8820
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Oh...u can see from this thread.......!!!!!.....
It really isn't the same. I just find it funny that people are like "WE NEED A MOSQUE NEXT TO GROUND ZERO BUT NO NON-MUSLIMS ARE ALLOWED IN OUR CITY" I personally don't have a problem with the mosque near ground zero, but that double standard really disappoints me.
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