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Old October 2nd, 2007, 09:09 PM   #921
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and whats so wrong in shadowing the Kabaa?
Actually IMO it could be one of the main reason

It would be better for the pilgrim to be in the shaddow.
How warm is it in Mecca? 45°C?
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 09:14 PM   #922
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arguing about silly stuff
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 11:11 PM   #923
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You can´t argument.Only can say stupid.What is about the shadow of the building.It will completly cover the Kabaa.The pilgrims won´t see the sun.
LOL... so?
Do you really think that pilgrims must see the sun?

The irony here is that most pilgrims try to avoid the sun pay praying in the covered areas espeically during the summer time.

And for your infomration, the Saudi government is thinking of ways to cover the main area of the grand mosque. Probably building more supertalls would be a good idea!

This is I belive one of the proposals,
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 11:28 PM   #924
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Now that looks pretty cool.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 11:38 PM   #925
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they want to make a circus?
fantastic europeans can make now more jokes about islam
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 11:39 PM   #926
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Circus?
Looks more like the Circuit in Malaysia IMO

NAy pics of the future mosque?
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 11:42 PM   #927
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I don't want to make fun of your comment. I respect your point of view but as all know and in all religions, nothing can block your prayer except your sins not huge building or bridge. It is not a mobile network
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 05:02 AM   #928
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even if abraj al bait was 1000000 mile high it can't cover sunshine form Al kaba use Compass al Kaba in north side of abraj al bait and about who said sleeping higher than al kaba honestly i Laughed when i read it maaan what would you say about all that small old houses above the Mountains?
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 05:39 AM   #929
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even if abraj al bait was 1000000 mile high it can't cover sunshine form Al kaba use Compass al Kaba in north side of abraj al bait and about who said sleeping higher than al kaba honestly i Laughed when i read it maaan what would you say about all that small old houses above the Mountains?
I'm having a somewhat tough time deciphering what you are saying. I take it you support the "Bin Laden Monstrosity" (a.k.a. abraj al bait)??
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 05:59 AM   #930
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while i do understand the needs for space, but again does islam really encourage this kind of luxury things??? did the prophet and sahaba live in this kind of luxury??? why was the prophets house so small and simple??? I think in islam you are allowed to be rich, but you are surely not allowed to be living in this kind of lavish lifestyle when your fellow people even around Makkah are begging on the streets. I think the fairness, justice and equality which islam stands for is not shown here at all. This is the first time in the history of Makkah where you will have such a huge divide between the rich and poor.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 06:07 AM   #931
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also why build a mall with all western stores in Makkah, do the pilgrims really need to shop there during there holy journeys? Makkah doesn't seem like a holy place anymore, i went there in 2005 and i was really dissapointed as it didn't really feel holy at all.

Might as well allow westerners and non muslims to the place, its already ruined.

But i think these are all the signs of the End, if you guys believe in it that is.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 11:08 AM   #932
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The city mecca has wrong urban planning.Has Mecca no Chamber of Architects????? why they dont destroy all buildings around kaaba and make beautiful parks,lakes,gardens and fountains around it to give the city a more relax feeling.And they also can make a big square infront of Kaaba and in mecca.The buildings in mecca and city planning is catastrophal .It don´t fits with the 21th century.

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Old October 3rd, 2007, 01:21 PM   #933
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The city mecca has wrong urban planning.Has Mecca no Chamber of Architects????? why they dont destroy all buildings around kaaba and make beautiful parks,lakes,gardens and fountains around it to give the city a more relax feeling.And they also can make a big squares infront of Kaaba and in mecca.The buildings in mecca and city planning is catastrophal .It don´t fits with the 21th century.
talking is easy
in reality those people owning land around kaaba wont sell their lands. and nobody can force them.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 01:23 PM   #934
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But it looks like the houses around it will be destroyed for other projects
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 02:58 PM   #935
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talking is easy
in reality those people owning land around kaaba wont sell their lands. and nobody can force them.
The Kingdom give the owning people land and houses in another place.It is so easy.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 03:09 PM   #936
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This is I belive one of the proposals,
[IMG]http://i5.************/4m9h1yo.jpg[/IMG]
This is not a proposal, It is already got approved and work is supposed to be started after finishing the extension of safa & Marwa. I think now people will start making fun and claim that these tents are going to stop the prayer from going up or these tents will decrease the enjoyment of the worship. Anyway, People like to complain and reject any new stuff without deep thinking.

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I take it you support the "Bin Laden Monstrosity" (a.k.a. abraj al bait)??
Please don't try to use this useless card. The Binladen Group which you are making fun of it is one of largest and most known contractors in the word and built many large construction projects not only Abraj Al-bait which is the largest construction project in world, it also built The holy mosque in Makkah which you dream to go there to worship Allah, The prophet's mosque (PBUH) in madinah, Sharjah airport, Boeing hangers in Riyadh airport, American Univ. in sharjah, Al Faisaleya tower, Sharm Al-shikh airport in egypt, extention of cairo airport, king abdullah economic city, tabuk airport, plaza tower in dubai, kulu lampour airport in malaysia and many other projects in Kuwait, Qatar, Yemen, Syria, Egypt, Malaysia, UAE .......etc (this is the contractor you are making fun of it).

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also why build a mall with all western stores in Makkah, do the pilgrims really need to shop there during there holy journeys?
There are no stores inside the holy mosque which is logic and well known. The stores are outside for sure so what don't you like if there are western or eastern store? Makkah is a city and has citizens who live there (millions) and they need stores, parks, resturants and everything unless if you want to kick people out from it except pilgrimes. This is not logic at all.

If the goods which are being sold there are allowed islamically then what is stopping the gov. from giving permissions to these stores to work there?

Some like shopping after worship, Some like to worship 24 hours daily, some even go just for sins and fun. Each one will be judged according to his intention.

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But it looks like the houses around it will be destroyed for other projects
Yes houses around will be destroyed for extention of the holy mosque and also for many new projects to provide good standard living for pilgrimes.

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The Kingdom give the owning people land and houses in another place.It is so easy.
Is it easy to pay billions of dollars ? It is not easy and it is one of main obstructions the gov. is facing to start work on any new project or extension. 1 square meter = 350,000$ infront of the holy mosque so imagine if you are going to destroy almost 500 square meter or more.
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Is it easy to pay billions of dollars ? It is not easy and it is one of main obstructions the gov. is facing to start work on any new project or extension. 1 square meter = 350,000$ infront of the holy mosque so imagine if you are going to destroy almost 500 square meter or more.
Man Saudia-Arabia has the richest oil fields of the world.Are they so poor.It is easy to pay USA millions of dollars to keep their military bases in Saudi-Arabia.It is easy to pay million of dollars for terrorism and wahabism all around the world.But it is not easy to make an urban development project around kaaba .Yeah that is Saudi-Arabia.Millions of pilgrims come to mecca every year.They deserve a first class city with a first class service and hosting.That is why Mecca need a good planned city with a modern urban development project.But the first thing you think is MONEY .

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there are no american bases in Saudi..... you idiot..
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 04:18 PM   #939
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there are no american bases in Saudi..... you idiot..
Now i understand why westerners calling arabs backward.....Saudi Arabia pays USA money and USA protect them.Can´t built their own army.Do you know why Islam came to Saudi-Arabia???Because the people there were the most backward and catastrophal people in the world in those times.Till jet nothing has changed.Americans call them sand-nig*ers.

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